I Deleted a Gay TV Show

originally posted by: redtic
Simple question.. Do you think that taking offense to someone *simply* because they have a different sexual orientation than you has the potential to perpetuate homophobia? If so, is that ok?

Being offended by something is a long way from a phobia. I find that term, in this case, is far to overused, and usually without any real merit. As far as "ok" is concerned, whoa re we to tell someone what phobia they are allowed to have? If it's a real phobia, it isn't like someone has any control over it.

If one person is supposed to accept whatever behavior another considers normal, then that must apply both ways.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Being offended by something is a long way from a phobia.

Homophobia is a misnomer, IMO. It doesn't mean a phobia or "fear of homosexuals". It should be called "sexualist" (like racist or sexist).

Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).[1][2][3] It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.[4]

Wikipedia

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: redtic
Simple question.. Do you think that taking offense to someone *simply* because they have a different sexual orientation than you has the potential to perpetuate homophobia? If so, is that ok?

Being offended by something is a long way from a phobia. I find that term, in this case, is far to overused, and usually without any real merit. As far as "ok" is concerned, whoa re we to tell someone what phobia they are allowed to have? If it's a real phobia, it isn't like someone has any control over it.

If one person is supposed to accept whatever behavior another considers normal, then that must apply both ways.

My point was not that taking offense = homophobia (though it does), but rather "has the potential to perpetuate" it, ie make it continue, or spread. As in, "oh look Daddy is changing the channel and making a snide remark because of the gay people on TV - gay people must be bad", or "hmm, Mommy is going out of her way to avoid that gay couple walking on the sidewalk, there must be something wrong with them". That sort of thing.

a reply to: nOraKat

same with Straight people right? i mean seriously those Heterosexuals that are loud and act "Broish" getting drunk and cat calling girls, exaggerating their straight behavior.. holding hands in public... hugging

or those girls with their clothes, like i don't care how straight you are i don't want to see that...

Seriously though....

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

exactly, i personally would love to see someone like me in a Movie, it's not the Stereotype but how the Stereotype is cast.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Homophobia is a misnomer, IMO. It doesn't mean a phobia or "fear of homosexuals". It should be called "sexualist" (like racist or sexist). 

I agree.
I do not fear homosexuals. I do not relate to male homosexuality and the thought of male to male sex is revolting to me. Anal is revolting to me, even heterosexual.
I know people that are revolted by the thought of eating certain things.
It is a personal thing. I will change the channel sometimes when the show is gratuitously using gay themes. Does that make me a bad person? If so, I can live with it.
I do have friends and family that are gay. I don't believe that I treat them differently than other people.
But even if I do subconsciously treat them differently, should I be sent to a re-education camp?
If so, then I think that adults that are sickened by the thought of eating feces should be re-educated also. It is a sexual fetish.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Being offended by something is a long way from a phobia.

Homophobia is a misnomer, IMO. It doesn't mean a phobia or "fear of homosexuals". It should be called "sexualist" (like racist or sexist).

Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT).[1][2][3] It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.[4]

Wikipedia

At least that would be more accurate. Of course, people have a right to not like everyone they meet, and state so. As long as there isn't violence, or something illegal, we should be allowed to express ourselves.

originally posted by: redtic

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
My point was not that taking offense = homophobia (though it does), but rather "has the potential to perpetuate" it, ie make it continue, or spread. As in, "oh look Daddy is changing the channel and making a snide remark because of the gay people on TV - gay people must be bad", or "hmm, Mommy is going out of her way to avoid that gay couple walking on the sidewalk, there must be something wrong with them". That sort of thing.

No, being offended does not equal a phobia. Nor, thus, could it be considered to perpetuate the same. Parents have every right to raise their children with their own values. We don't have to approve. There is no requirement that all people like one another, and it isn't even practical to try and force such a thing. It will never happen. People will always disagree with one another.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

As long as we don't act too Gayish in public....

a reply to: Darth_Prime

Ru Paul? He's fine. He's not over the top.

Now if I watch Ru Paul's Drag Race, I open myself up for it and should be aware of exactly what I'm getting; it's meant to be over the top. But in general, Ru Paul is fine. So is Tim Gunn, and I think we are all well aware that he's gay.

They aren't stereotypes because they don't have to be.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

As long as we don't act too Gayish in public....

Be as fabulous as you care to in public for all I care.
For the record though, I do not prefer to see people of any persuasion get too frisky in public when it comes to intimate contact. I am not above telling any couple to 'get a room'.

So wait, is the OP a bad person because of this? I see alot of focus on the part he said he was offended by "gay behavior", almost as if by using " offended" he crossed some line. I might be mistaken though.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

As long as we don't act too Gayish in public....

Be as fabulous as you care to in public for all I care.
For the record though, I do not prefer to see people of any persuasion get too frisky in public when it comes to intimate contact. I am not above telling any couple to 'get a room'.

^ Yes this is what I've tried to explain to my wife haha

a reply to: ketsuko

What is the limit though? when are you "Safe" and when are you over the top and who creates these Stereotypes?

People have different personalities and express themselves differently

a reply to: Khornographic

What is "Gay Behavior" though and how can you be offended by it?

For my part (or lack thereof) in this discussion, I find myself very pleased that since I have not had cable in my home for going on 11 years, I have only recognized maybe one or two of the shows mentioned in this entire thread.

It makes me smile to realize what I'm "missing".

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
For my part (or lack thereof) in this discussion, I find myself very pleased that since I have not had cable in my home for going on 11 years, I have only recognized maybe one or two of the shows mentioned in this entire thread.

It makes me smile to realize what I'm "missing".

Hey...we all have to have something to strive for. As long as it pleases you, that makes me happy.

But....you are right. Its mostly crap. Especially the stuff that is suppose to be nonfiction, like the news.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead on streaming replay are pretty much it for me.

I aggravate co-workers when they talk about a commercial and I have no idea what they're talking about; that also makes me smile.

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead on streaming replay are pretty much it for me.

I aggravate co-workers when they talk about a commercial and I have no idea what they're talking about; that also makes me smile.

Some commercials are pure gold, though. You should look them up on YouTube for a few laughs.

The 2 shows you mention....near the top of the list for me. I also do other series, but won't usually watch until I have at least 3 seasons to start me off. The wife and I watch 1 a day together (she works nights, me days) in the mornings before she goes to sleep. Its just something that we can do together. And gives us a common frame of reference when making sarcastic quips in public.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: ketsuko

What is the limit though? when are you "Safe" and when are you over the top and who creates these Stereotypes?

People have different personalities and express themselves differently

I understand that. The point of the OP I think was - Is it wrong for him to define his personal line on that? Or does he have to just go along with it and approve no matter how personally offensive he finds it?

I don't watch Ru Paul's Drag Race. I know what it is, but I can't go there. It's beyond my threshold. Does that make me hateful for admitting that it's just beyond my personal tolerance level? At the same time, it doesn't bother me to see Ru Paul emceeing a parade or giving an interview or even doing a drag performance on occasion.

We all have our personal limits, and we should all be allowed to have them. No one should be forced into things they don't like or into associations they aren't comfortable with just to make the other person feel good about themselves.

I guess I could ask you if it would similarly be fair to expect you to watch Kirk Cameron in Fireproof just to prove that you don't hate evangelicals? I don't think it would, so I'm not expecting it.

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead on streaming replay are pretty much it for me.

I aggravate co-workers when they talk about a commercial and I have no idea what they're talking about; that also makes me smile.

I only know about most of it because I watch The Soup and know about all kinds of interesting crap that they air on TV.