Florida church sends $1,000 collection notice to single mother because she didn’t tithe

a reply to: Spider879

It would be a great day for our brainwashed society when and if the government finally yanks the churches tax exemption.

Talk about "back to life".
Churches will suddenly be too expensive to go to and the real evil behind the curtain will finally be revealed to all.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: NthOther

No, I think the situation in the OP is a VERY valid reason to unleash a government agency on them. They have a privilege to not pay taxes. It appears that they are abusing that privilege. Therefore, have the government check and find out. It's pretty simple really. Why you are against auditing the church is beyond me. Like I said, if they've done nothing wrong then the IRS will just pack up and go home once it is done. No harm, no foul.

Nope. They also have a privelage to solicit donations. They also have a privelage to bot allow voting on church business and not print your name in their list of members if you don't donate (enough).

Sending an unenforceable bill as a solicitation attempt is very scummy, but how many fake checks etc do we get in the mail everyday.

There is nothing here to indicate a law violation.


The quite from the law on page 2 is not applicable.



The IRS even being able to audit a church is a clear 1st ammendment violation. Any law they run foul of in the tax code is as well.

originally posted by: FinalCountdown
a reply to: Spider879

It would be a great day for our brainwashed society when and if the government finally yanks the churches tax exemption.

Talk about "back to life".
Churches will suddenly be too expensive to go to and the real evil behind the curtain will finally be revealed to all.

I agree, they can fight the tax on other grounds and we can start to undo the Church of Internal Revenue.

originally posted by: ISawItFirst
Nope. They also have a privelage to solicit donations. They also have a privelage to bot allow voting on church business and not print your name in their list of members if you don't donate (enough).

This isn't solicitation. It is coercion.

Sending an unenforceable bill as a solicitation attempt is very scummy, but how many fake checks etc do we get in the mail everyday.

There is nothing here to indicate a law violation.


The quite from the law on page 2 is not applicable.

Then I guess an audit wouldn't turn up any wrong doing then.

The IRS even being able to audit a church is a clear 1st ammendment violation. Any law they run foul of in the tax code is as well.

Why? The church could just easily pay taxes.

Oh, well another reason why I don't support organized religion, they are let say like mobs, they are in the business of selling something, for profits.

More profits than salvation in their case.

Sadly they have been able to lure the truly worshiper along with the sinners to score points and pay for that littler piece of real state in haven.,

An audit doesn't require proof of illegal activity beforehand, the audit itself proves/disproves that, suspect activity/associations can be enough.

When we were contracted non-emergency medical transport providers for medicaid clients, we were audited. Some transportation providers in the state were over billing. Based on what was found in their books, it led to investigating others.

That's how we got caught up. Another transportation provider in our area had clients needing transport to Denver but his territory didn't extend that far. He approached us, asked if we could do it, we agreed.

Turned out he was in violation. Our associations with him was enough to warrant taking a look at our books. 3 days that investigator poured over our files, we came out clean as a whistle.

As taxpayers/biz owners we completely understood, because of the widespread abuse at the time, it didn't take much to become suspect.

Any business's books can be scrutinized if they're suspected of abuses. Just because churches are tax exempt, they shouldn't be exempt from investigations/adherence to the law.

We didn't view our audit as a personal attack, it was to protect taxpayers and it keeps the industry honest. No reason to get all butt hurt.

In fact because so many transportation providers were in violation/put out of biz we were slammed with clients needing services. Even if you're not religious, there's rewards for good behavior.

a reply to: superman2012

Jesus was not a zombie:



I wish people would get this right if they're gonna go with fictional characters in the first place.



So this church wants to exempt people who don't donate enough from participating in what is supposed to be "God's Work?"

Charlatans and snake oil won't ever go out of style, will they?

The article is from RawStory, which means the only facts you'll find in it are the ones that pull the hardest on liberals' puppet strings. The rest of the pertinent information will be omitted, so I think I'll just pass on this one.

a reply to: Spider879
yeah i posted a few things on their facebook page they didb't like. but it is true those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. dr kings namesake martin luther fought against this very thing hundreds of years ago. i live in the south and constantly am told i am not right with my lord because i don't give him a tithe of 0 percent of my earnings i just chuckle. god didn't create tithte Abraham did.

originally posted by: Bone75
The article is from RawStory, which means the only facts you'll find in it are the ones that pull the hardest on liberals' puppet strings. The rest of the pertinent information will be omitted, so I think I'll just pass on this one.

Well, thanks for stopping by anyway... to say that you'll be skipping this thread.

This family is lucky that they're only getting a notice of tithes due. In some countries they would be harmed..or worse. Maybe that's the next step for this church?

a reply to: Spider879

No surprise here. Many churches are used as cash cows. They get all of those tax breaks and STILL manage to get members to pay for their own brainwashing. Despicable and disgusting, but also brilliant.

The Law was meant to be our schoolmaster (Gal. 3:24), and meant to bring us to Christ who is the mediator of the New Covenant to set us free from the Old. This is very serious to be brought back under what God has set aside to inoperable by the New Covenant. Tithing is of the law. If you tithing in according to the law then you are acting as if the law has not been abolished for the believer.

Acts 15:24: “Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment.” Tithing was part of the law to ISRAEL- NOT the Church.


SO In actuality gentiles/NT christians and even jews who believe in Jesusdo not haveto tithe,and inthe OT it never specifically mentions money as a tithe.

That church andthe catholic church are both in violation of the new covenant laws.

a reply to: markosity1973

it's just wrong to force people to pay for salvation

Says you...the inclusion of the concept of hell does wonders for theology...but I agree with you

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The inclusion of the word 'primitive' is both redundant and yet oddly appropriate.

Mount Moriah Primitive

You overlooked the important clue...Moriah

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Moria (also known as Khazad-dûm or Dwarrowdelf) was the Dwarven underground city beneath the Misty Mountains. For thousands of years, a thriving Dwarvish community had delved deep below the mountains seeking to build their lives there, and to find sources of treasure, gold and Mithril.

Florida church sent a delinquency notice to a new member reminding her that worshipers were expected to pay $1,000 in required fees or face possible removal.

Candace Petterson said she started attending the Greater Mount Moriah Primitive Baptist Church about six months ago after moving to a new home in the Tampa area, but she received a troubling letter last week from the church, reported WFTS-TV.

The fact that this a reality in some parts of the world in this day and age is mind-blowing. The church's ideals are primitive indeed.

The predominantly black church, which has operated for more than a century, asked her to pay a yearly $250 anniversary fee and another $150 for Mount Moriah Day – amounting to $1,000, some of which would be set aside to pay off church debt.

Interesting how the article used racial bate tactic to rile up the simpletons of this world. The race of the church members is irrelevant....

You stated:

What is wrong with religious leaders and institutions especially African American religious leaders

I see you took the bait....

Can you please expound on what you meant by that above statement?

if I had the power and thank Gaawd I don't I would phase out religious institutions or tax them heavily they have served their purpose, they gave us great art and music they were there in times of need and served as a meeting place for information and comfort that said, it's high time to phase out the rot is in and cannot be undone.

I cannot stand religious dogmatic fundamentalist of all faiths. What I cannot stand even more are racist and bigots...they usually phase themselves out when they go back and read some of the shinola they posted...

This has got to be THEE MOST f%&&ing ignorant thing I have read today:

What is wrong with religious leaders and institutions especially African American religious leaders

You are a piece of...work, that's for sure.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Their name has nothing to do with J.R.R. Tolkien.

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a reply to: Spider879

I can't believe some churches do this! Shame on them. Hopefully, all she has to do is switch churches.