Is there a guy out there who doesn't cheat?

I agree with you in part however the part about 'offering something more than another woman' is crazy! If a man(or woman) is unhappy with said 'offerings' then they should be honest.

The old saying still stands... 'I would rather be hurt by the truth than protected by a lie'.

Any reason is invalid... People need to (wo)man up!

originally posted by: orangetom1999
There is a lot missing from this story. I don't buy into it.

For the OP....What is it you are offering this man that another woman cannot offer him more or better??

You come across as insecure ...

Though many men and males seem not to be able to define it in words...most do not want a insecure woman but a secure woman. They also do not want a woman who is "Trying out for their approval..and crowding them"

I'll put it another way..marking out territory...and obviously so doing.


Another thing...and this is of importance as many males cannot also define this one..

Piece is not it in it's entirety.

Piece is not a good substitute for Peace in a mans life...

This provided a man even knows.



Peace ..which may include Piece but not entirely...it involves much more...Peace is the drug a woman provides for a man and for which ..once he knows..is a drug for which a knowledgeable man never wants to get off it.

Peace is the drug for which a man finds rest...not exclusively Piece....understand now Teal Fox/?

I detect none of this understanding from reading your posts. I do not detect this drug.



A woman who can put a man on this kind of drug is priceless...and a rare commodity among women. So few women know this today in lieu of cheap merchandizing . The sad truth is that also so few men or males know. So how would the males ever be able to communicate this to the females??



A male who is a man ...understands that it is not difficult to get a female or woman to take off her clothes. Hence sex is not exclusively the most valuable commodity in the marketplace..Peace is...not Piece..but Peace.

This is also why a secure woman is more valuable in the marketplace than a insecure one. Because an insecure woman will tend to project her insecurities onto the man to control him over to her agenda.

A woman who shows potential..is a woman who can provide from her labors..a place a man can come to rest...not just take her clothes off..but real rest and sanctuary from the outside world.

An insecure woman can crowd a man to where the outside world is more restful and a sanctuary than under her care and rest.

I do not detect Rest or Peace in your posts Teal Fox.....only Piece.

What is it you are offering this man ..that another woman cannot offer more or better...what drug???

It is not sex. It is also not beauty.


As for the cheating...That is between you and him..not the board per se.

I am aware of how many men cheat. I am also well aware of how many women cheat ..having dated older women most of my life.

I am not impressed with the argument.

The question still stands..what are you offering this man as a drug for which this man never wants to get off it.. ..for which another woman cannot offer more or better??


Thanks,
Orangetom

a reply to: demondonna

I agree with you in part however the part about 'offering something more than another woman' is crazy! If a man(or woman) is unhappy with said 'offerings' then they should be honest.

The old saying still stands... 'I would rather be hurt by the truth than protected by a lie'.

Any reason is invalid... People need to (wo)man up!

Now this looks good on paper and even makes a lot of sense.....until...........



Until one understands the very competitive nature of most women. Women are far more competitive than men and in a manner and nature not understood my most men with only an "Oil Shortage" mentality. It is often carefully occult..hidden and concealed.

How many women do you know who are capable of looking down into a man's soul and seeing what is missing from his life and learn to fulfill it..to provide it for him..to supply. The man himself may not even know it is missing ..until he experiences it from her and recognizes that is comes from her..by her heart and soul...her very essence...verses coming from another woman who only knows how to take off her clothes.

You see?

Or do most women today ..start..from the point... "I should be enough for him!!!"...which is a variation of....

"I'm sitting on the only one in town." Only to discover too late ..it is not true!!


You see??

Do you even understand the difference??



I taught a woman some years ago ..to handle a certain fellow who was hounding her. I used the same technique I am explaining here. She was very direct with him...and he was not prepared for the question..totally out foxed him.

She asked him point blank...."Lets cut to the chase here...What are you offereing me...what are you going to do for me that I cannot get more or better from another man???"


Took the wind right out of his sails and he never hounded or bothered her again. He was not prepared even for the question ..much less the answer.

Understand now??

What is more common out here among men and women even here on ATS...thinking..or variations of "Im sitting on the only one in town??"


Peace..not Piece.




Thanks,
Orangetom

originally posted by: orangetom1999
a reply to: demondonna

I agree with you in part however the part about 'offering something more than another woman' is crazy! If a man(or woman) is unhappy with said 'offerings' then they should be honest.

The old saying still stands... 'I would rather be hurt by the truth than protected by a lie'.

Any reason is invalid... People need to (wo)man up!

Your friend probably didn't get hounded anymore because the bloke thought she was mental.

I am not a woman who is naive. I don't believe my husband walks down the street and doesnt notice a woman is pretty or see has big boobs or nice eyes etc. I don't expect that of him. I do expect that if I am no longer the person that makes him happy and I no longer have enough respect from him to know the truth that he is welcome to man up and leave. Leaving him open to what others have to offer. I am not competitive in that way. If I have to compete for a mans attention then I would presume that I never really had his interest.

A relationship is about being equal, and about understanding that we are not perfect. Loving the good and the bad. I would rather be alone forever than be with someone who loves what I have more than who I am.



Now this looks good on paper and even makes a lot of sense.....until...........



Until one understands the very competitive nature of most women. Women are far more competitive than men and in a manner and nature not understood my most men with only an "Oil Shortage" mentality. It is often carefully occult..hidden and concealed.

How many women do you know who are capable of looking down into a man's soul and seeing what is missing from his life and learn to fulfill it..to supply it for him. The man himself may not even know it is missing ..until he experiences it from her and recognizes that is comes from her..by her heart and soul...her very essence...verses coming from another woman who only knows how to take off her clothes.

You see.

Or do most women today ..start..from the point... "I should be enough for him!!!"...which is a variation of....

"I'm sitting on the only one in town." Only to discover too late ..it is not true!!


You see??

Do you even understand the difference??



I taught a woman some years ago ..to handle a certain fellow who was hounding her. I used the same technique I am explaining here. She was very direct with him...and he was not prepared for the question..totally out foxed him.

She asked him point blank...."Lets cut to the chase here...What are you offereing me...what are you going to do for me that I cannot get more or better from another man???"


Took the wind right out of his sails and he never hounded or bothered her again. He was not prepared even for the question ..much less the answer.

Understand now??

What is more common out here among men and women even here on ATS...thinking..or variations of "Im sitting on the only one in town??"




Thanks,
Orangetom

a reply to: demondonna

Your friend probably didn't get hounded anymore because the bloke thought she was mental.

I don't think so. I think he was totally confused...totally unprepared for her question. All of his Oil Shortage mentality and default settings had not prepared him for this line of thought or questioning.

I've done this same or similar thing to women who try that standard line on me..."You come to me for only one thing!!"

This is their attempt to play victim and put me on the defensive. When this happens I quickly come back to them and tell them point blank.

"Listen...I can get women out here to take off their clothes. It is not difficult. I know women who's only skill set in life is taking off their clothes. Other than that they have little to offer in the marketplace. You can offer me that ..but only in addition to" offering me something of real intrinsic value. That tack is not going to work on me to make me feel guilty or change the way I operate.

Once again ..the conversation breaks right down. They are totally unprepared for the reaction from me. Their conditioning in the blame game did not prepare them. They were accustomed to men going on the defensive and thinking from an oil shortage mentality.

I have done this with several other males who have complained of their women coming to them with the same olde line to strategize raising their value in the marketplace by using and misusing sex and sexuality.

They gave me the same answer..their women were totally unprepared for what happened. It was totally outside the thinking process to which they were accustomed...just like the man I described.

I am not a woman who is naive. I don't believe my husband walks down the street and doesnt notice a woman is pretty or see has big boobs or nice eyes etc. I don't expect that of him. I do expect that if I am no longer the person that makes him happy and I no longer have enough respect from him to know the truth that he is welcome to man up and leave. Leaving him open to what others have to offer. I am not competitive in that way. If I have to compete for a mans attention then I would presume that I never really had his interest.

LOL LOL LOL!!! I am not talking expressly about you and your husband. I am talking about the nature of women and people in general. Here from one of my earlier posts up above on this page..

Until one understands the very competitive nature of most women. Women are far more competitive than men and in a manner and nature not understood my most men with only an "Oil Shortage" mentality. It is often carefully occult..hidden and concealed.

I will tell you something else I did not learn on my own. An older woman taught me this. I was so unawares I would never have come up with this on my own.

About men looking..

Many men are.. like me..naive enough to think that women dress the way they dress for men. This older woman told me ..."What makes you think that a woman is dressing that way for you. How do you know she is not competitively dressing to put the other women on alert?? Giving them notice. Do you think the other women do not notice..and quickly??"

That was a big wake up call for me. It took me some time and experience to totally digest it. She turned out to be correct.

Women are far more physical and aware than most men and across a much wider spectrum than most men. Just because they do it differently than most men ..does not mean that they are not physical. They are going to notice another woman very very quickly.


Well..I hope you get my points. This world is not what many of us think it is.

Nonetheless..I still think there is something missing from the OPs post. I just don't entirely buy into it.


Thanks for your post,
Orangetom

demondonna ,

A relationship is about being equal, and about understanding that we are not perfect. Loving the good and the bad. I would rather be alone forever than be with someone who loves what I have more than who I am.

I should tell you ..I don't believe in equality. I don't want a woman who is equal to me. I want a woman with enough acumen to see in me what I lack and can fill it for me...or teach me to fill it myself.

I also want to be able to look down into a woman's soul..the woman I choose..and see what is lacking in her life and if I am interested in her..to fill it. I call this complimentary..not equal. And teach her the how and why of what I know...a compliment...not equal. Sharing if you like. Not equality. Sharing in Love.

I have found with many women that they are very much superior to men in certain arenas.
I was quite startled to take a woman to flea markets and yard sales..and discover that this particular woman can see a particular item on a table ..at a yard sale...from a moving truck...and shout ..."Stop." Only to be exiting the truck before I can get it to a complete stop.

I can't do that ....can you do that ??? I can't do that!!! Now that is physical...also very very visual.

This same woman when at what she liked to do...Bingo....can work some 8 cards with her blotter...and I am struggling with my two...she comes over to help me with my two. 8 cards.....I can't do that...can you do that??? I can't do that!!!

Talk about physical and visual.....Wow!!!

Properly motivated...women are far more acute in certain arenas than most men ever consider.

I mean to tell you...older women are a real education for a young man...I recommend it to many a young man.

I have run into a number of women who go after a man for that which he can provide them..rather than who and what he is. In that we are in agreement. That fits in with a definition of a psychopath. A user and dam the consequences to others...or whom it affects. Some call this type of person ..an objectifier. Objectification. Another name for it is high maintenance.

Thanks,
Orangetom

WOW!

I do not mean to be rude but you do not sound stable when you are getting your rant on!

Any man who does not believe in equality is not worth my time. Sorry!

originally posted by: orangetom1999
demondonna ,

A relationship is about being equal, and about understanding that we are not perfect. Loving the good and the bad. I would rather be alone forever than be with someone who loves what I have more than who I am.

I should tell you ..I don't believe in equality. I don't want a woman who is equal to me. I want a woman with enough acumen to see in me what I lack and can fill it for me...or teach me to fill it myself.

I also want to be able to look down into a woman's soul..the woman I choose..and see what is lacking in her life and if I am interested in her..to fill it. I call this complimentary..not equal. And teach her the how and why of what I know...a compliment...not equal. Sharing if you like. Not equality. Sharing in Love.

I have found with many women that they are very much superior to men in certain arenas.
I was quite startled to take a woman to flea markets and yard sales..and discover that this particular woman can see a particular item on a table ..at a yard sale...from a moving truck...and shout ..."Stop." Only to be exiting the truck before I can get it to a complete stop.

I can't do that ....can you do that ??? I can't do that!!! Now that is physical...also very very visual.

This same woman when at what she liked to do...Bingo....can work some 8 cards with her blotter...and I am struggling with my two...she comes over to help me with my two. 8 cards.....I can't do that...can you do that??? I can't do that!!!

Talk about physical and visual.....Wow!!!

Properly motivated...women are far more acute in certain arenas than most men ever consider.

I mean to tell you...older women are a real education for a young man...I recommend it to many a young man.

I have run into a number of women who go after a man for that which he can provide them..rather than who and what he is. In that we are in agreement. That fits in with a definition of a psychopath. A user and dam the consequences to others...or whom it affects. Some call this type of person ..an objectifier. Objectification. Another name for it is high maintenance.

Thanks,
Orangetom

a reply to: demondonna

WOW!

I do not mean to be rude but you do not sound stable when you are getting your rant on!

Any man who does not believe in equality is not worth my time. Sorry!

LOL LOL LOL...demondonna. Unstable...

My initial reaction when first reading your moniker was...are you stable???

No problem. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I don't take it as being rude at all...you are expressing your views.

Equality to me is one of the standard cause celebs...designed as a default setting to play through unquestioned and unthinkingly. It is supposed to default through...automatically. It is politics.


Oh..speaking of not stable...

I am a member of a team specially trained to install fuel cells into nuclear reactors. Also trained to work with the teams who remove the highly radioactive spent fuel from the same reactors. Do you think most women out here want this much equality????

Gives you the warm fuzzies...yes???

Thanks,
Orangetom

a reply to: TealFox


Truely sorry to hear this, but as any guy or gal knows that cheated themselves, this tends to be a normal pattern, which now begs the question(s)...

~Since his libido and your libido are vastly different like the Earth and Jupiter, what's keeping him in the relationship...convenience (money, place to stay, abiding his time to tell you)?

~have you asked him outright if he's is truely satisfied sexually or not, if he isn't is he watching porn or in a sex chat room?

If he says no and if he asks why, be honest with him and tell him what you've noticed and that it's concerning you and that you both need to evaluate the relationship and discuss his libido and if he's not being satisfied, what would be the long term solution before the relationship continues.

a reply to: Komodo

Truely sorry to hear this, but as any guy or gal knows that cheated themselves, this tends to be a normal pattern, which now begs the question(s)...

Years ago...when I was seeing a certain woman..she accused me of being unfaithful....right out of the blue...and it was not so. The way she did it just struck me as very wrong and irritating...as well as very insecure. All this because she saw me speak to another woman.


I cut her off very quickly. I told her that I have no use for an insecure woman..I need a secure woman. I do not want a woman foisting off or projecting her insecurities on me and attempting to make me feel insecure ...or jump through her hoops in that manner.

I also told her that her insecurities were false and if I decided to mess around..there was nothing she was going to do about it.


Once again the conversation broke right down. She was not prepared for my reaction..I was supposed to tuck tail and run off like a little puppy dog to the corner at the very concept or mention of messing around. She never again tried that tack with me.


I am not into such guilt politics..from a woman ..or from a politician ...as is so popular in political strategies today. Making others feel guilty or ashamed and getting them to jump through hoops or be silent...censorship/control. These are often projected default settings designed to control or silence you. We are supposed to automatically acquiesce/submit by shame and guilt. No thinking allowed.

Not interested.

I have long since gotten past that kind of thing having figured out how many women mess around..but are much more discreet about it than are most males. It is usually another woman who figures it out about another woman messing around..before a male figures it out.
This is not justification for messing around..but just something I have learned among the two legged wildlife out here..male and female both. As a result of this ...sexual politics...I have also learned about default settings.
All is not as it seems.


Thanks,
Orangetom

You are rambling! You are coming across as both egocentric and yes, unstable. I am not trying to be rude at all but some of things you say are shocking and a little offensive.

Your job is irrelevant and does not change how you speak about woman. I fear you are missing the point, rendering this conversation entirely pointless!

You are the type of man that I don't have time for. You do not treat woman as equals. I understand there are things you would do that a woman would sooner not but it works in reverse also. I understand also that there are roles which generally speaking lots of couples like to stick with.

My husband goes to work and I care for our children, one of which is disabled. I dont think of him any less for not spending more time with the children because he is busy in his role, he does not think less of me for not having to work hard like he does. My point is that equality is different depending on who you are talking to. In my house we are equal.

originally posted by: orangetom1999
a reply to: demondonna

WOW!

I do not mean to be rude but you do not sound stable when you are getting your rant on!

Any man who does not believe in equality is not worth my time. Sorry!

LOL LOL LOL...demondonna. Unstable...

My initial reaction when first reading your moniker was...are you stable???

No problem. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I don't take it as being rude at all...you are expressing your views.

Equality to me is one of the standard cause celebs...designed as a default setting to play through unquestioned and unthinkingly. It is supposed to default through...automatically. It is politics.


Oh..speaking of not stable...

I am a member of a team specially trained to install fuel cells into nuclear reactors. Also trained to work with the teams who remove the highly radioactive spent fuel from the same reactors. Do you think most women out here want this much equality????

Gives you the warm fuzzies...yes???

Thanks,
Orangetom

originally posted by: demondonna
You are rambling! You are coming across as both egocentric and yes, unstable. I am not trying to be rude at all but some of things you say are shocking and a little offensive.

No demondonna..I don t think you are being rude. Please keep the hits coming. Your doing fine here.

Your job is irrelevant and does not change how you speak about woman. I fear you are missing the point, rendering this conversation entirely pointless!

My job demondonna is highly relevant in that I take certain serious risks for my monies. Any woman I see needs to learn to take that into account when trying to make "Her" Decisions for us. For I am not interested in a woman who will spend my monies earned at risk..taking first place risks and then coming in last..place ..behind the children and pets...because she chooses in her Wisdom to have it so because of her..."Feelings." She also needs to take into consideration the shift I work..not just her schedule. I don't want to live a "Home And Garden Channel Life."
That too would be coming in last place.

This demondonna from a woman ..would be called "Commitment" not equality.

You are the type of man that I don't have time for. You do not treat woman as equals. I understand there are things you would do that a woman would sooner not but it works in reverse also. I understand also that there are roles which generally speaking lots of couples like to stick with.

I am not particularly interested in what other couples do..that is their business..and it is their right to so do. Not my business. I don't tell someone else how to run their business or spend their monies.

It is ok if you do not have time for me demondonna. I am sure I will get over it. I just don't believe in what tries to pass for equality today. Most of the women I know believe first and foremost in "Options" not equality. Particularly if "No one sees what we do." Today's feminine males as well....they are very much like this. Drama Drama Drama.

Oh...and while I am thinking about.. "No one sees what we do" that is precisely how much of today's politics and todays politicians work.

My husband goes to work and I care for our children, one of which is disabled. I dont think of him any less for not spending more time with the children because he is busy in his role, he does not think less of me for not having to work hard like he does. My point is that equality is different depending on who you are talking to. In my house we are equal.

LOL LOL LOL..demondonna...!!!

Logic 101...things which are different are not equal.
things which are not equal are different.

How you and your man arrange your house is your business...not mine...good for you two that you can come to an understanding on this.

This is to me what I call a Division of labor. Not equality. How you two decide to divide it up is your business..not anyone else's business.

I just told you how I deal with women ..particularly women who believe in equality. I quickly find that they do not want to be equal to me..particularly in the Risk taking department.

I am not beyond letting them know that I know this...if they cannot handle it ..they can take a walk.

I am not here to take the first place RISKs I take for my monies and to come in last place because she believes in Equality.

I know to many men and males like this and they do not have the acumen to realize what has happened to them.
To much sports conditioning to run touchdowns without thinking about what they are doing.

I Know many of these men and males because they find more peace, safety, and structure at work than at home. It ought not to be this way. A man's home should be a place where he comes for Peace..not just Piece.


I do not get such a sense from the OP on this thread. All I get is Piece..not Peace. Hence the reason I asked the OP ..what they really have to offer a man that another woman cannot do better?? What is the drug that a good woman knows to put a man onto that he never wants to get off of it????

LOL LOL LOL..no problem demondonna..I understand that todays man is never supposed to be able to think this far on his own..and without permission/authorization.
He is just supposed to be ready to run touchdowns and not think about the nature of the game or if it is even worth playing...in lieu of equality.


Thanks,
Orangetom

a reply to: TealFox

I am 50 years old, intelligent and goodlooking..women say. And I haven't cheated... yet.

Does that answer your question?

a reply to: zatara

No..zatara , You are a male...and automatically by default ..by trial by press..you are automatically judged guilty...by default...by bias...by popular demand.

Do not attempt to think this through..just cede to the default settings...Do not pass go. No 200 dollars... No thinking allowed..no appeals...
This is called "Equality " today.

That is basically it...in a nutshell.


However ..I laugh when I go through the check out stands and read the various magazine titles..particularly Cosmo magazine and the various magazines having to do with the stars.. The Pulps.
They are one broadside of sex after sex ..after sexuality.

This awareness makes a joke out of what I posted above. Because if you take the sex and sexuality ouf of these magazines you have no magazine.

Try to imagine a magazine like Woodworker...."How to lose forty pounds off that walnut cabinet ..without work and without risk."

Well..perhapsed you get the picture ..in equality.


But thanks for your post.
Orangetom

a reply to: TealFox
Ya! You should not have treated him so good. Besides I doubt your validity on your definition of "treated" or "good" it sounds like opinions, and ones you formulated. Besides seen this often enough to know that its just a phase females go through. I may be wrong, but its not likely.

Anyways your problem easily solved. Get another boyfriend, and that is that. Generally when females put up these sort of questions they already have one or a few in mind, and also have a few in tow as well.

And to answer your question, you can trust a man the same way men trust women. You take your chances, and you see what happens. Just like females, always wanting things made up for them. You lazy bugger you.

Ah just messing. But seriously. I am sure you will do fine. Like the other guy in that other post before this one. This is another none issue. This relationship thread seems to be chocked full of them.

a reply to: orangetom1999

Thank you... I almost thought to be unique and the only one in that department.

Oh ya, this whole thing has come quarter circle it seems. Which I dont blame them, it was bound to happen its logical conclusion, and eventually lead to its logical end. A bizarre sort of virus, but it started with females, I mean only with somebody whose issues consisting of which guy to chose from, and ah my boyfriend did not read my mind I guess he does not love me, would something like this even take hold, only with somebody who has a total and complete none issues would they even believe that nonsense and the constant ego stroking these groups and social engineering people put out.

All it has done is lead to a whole host of people who are some of the most entitled, and some of the papered, who have some of the biggest options, both in society, and both simply because of there gender, ie female, who now believe that they have it so hard when the opposite is true and has been true for ages, from tribal times to now, and when there reality is most of them never lifted a finger to do anything but sit around for the man to come to them with all the things prepared.

Dont even get me started on that whole patriarchy thing, that # never really existed, the only capacity it existed is because women like men who are in charge and paying for everything and buying them things and taking them places, and then they turn around a go, oh its a mens world, now let me just go do my nails because I have a date this afternoon. No! Its a topsy turvy world, full on nonsense. Yey more cognitive dissonance on a mass scale, like there was not enough of that out there before in both genders.

Its kind of like hearing a rich person whine and bitch how they have it so hard and how they lost it all. But on closer looking it turns out being broke means he only has a few hundred thousand in the bank and may have to sell the mansion and move to the 20 acre ranch in Texas.

Social engineering at its finest, so I suppose that whole thing which the Buddha said about the female gender is true, and maybe even that whole garden of Eden and snake thing. But now it has moved on to males, and then? Well the ball rolls on, and now we will get to see it from the other side of the coin. From feminist to maninists we went in these short years...And then....

This vid and a few others YouTube linked me this morning, its what happens when you even click on any of these links or vids, or even these nonesense relationship threads. Now YouTube and Google and all other media seems to think I want to watch more of this #. It seems the ball rolls on in the battle of the sexes.

On conclusion, this thing is a virus, it will spread, it will do its thing as per design, and you all will dance to its tune.




Stupid internet, quit linking me this # per social medias, I know your listening.

Just because two people are different it does not mean they are not equal. You can still treat them like they are just as important.

I do not understand half the things you say if I am honest. I understand the order of things. My children will always come before everything and everyone else. They would always come over my husband because they are my bloodline and have become part of who I am. That doesnt mean my husband is not high on my list of priorities. He is the father of my children we have provided for them and raised them equally. We may have different roles but I see this as a balance. Our roles are of equal importance. Therefore we are equal.

I don't think someone who believes many to be beneath them could be happy in a relationship. You sound as if you have a god complex. That is not healthy.

originally posted by: orangetom1999

originally posted by: demondonna
You are rambling! You are coming across as both egocentric and yes, unstable. I am not trying to be rude at all but some of things you say are shocking and a little offensive.

No demondonna..I don t think you are being rude. Please keep the hits coming. Your doing fine here.

Your job is irrelevant and does not change how you speak about woman. I fear you are missing the point, rendering this conversation entirely pointless!

My job demondonna is highly relevant in that I take certain serious risks for my monies. Any woman I see needs to learn to take that into account when trying to make "Her" Decisions for us. For I am not interested in a woman who will spend my monies earned at risk..taking first place risks and then coming in last..place ..behind the children and pets...because she chooses in her Wisdom to have it so because of her..."Feelings." She also needs to take into consideration the shift I work..not just her schedule. I don't want to live a "Home And Garden Channel Life."
That too would be coming in last place.

This demondonna from a woman ..would be called "Commitment" not equality.

You are the type of man that I don't have time for. You do not treat woman as equals. I understand there are things you would do that a woman would sooner not but it works in reverse also. I understand also that there are roles which generally speaking lots of couples like to stick with.

I am not particularly interested in what other couples do..that is their business..and it is their right to so do. Not my business. I don't tell someone else how to run their business or spend their monies.

It is ok if you do not have time for me demondonna. I am sure I will get over it. I just don't believe in what tries to pass for equality today. Most of the women I know believe first and foremost in "Options" not equality. Particularly if "No one sees what we do." Today's feminine males as well....they are very much like this. Drama Drama Drama.

Oh...and while I am thinking about.. "No one sees what we do" that is precisely how much of today's politics and todays politicians work.

My husband goes to work and I care for our children, one of which is disabled. I dont think of him any less for not spending more time with the children because he is busy in his role, he does not think less of me for not having to work hard like he does. My point is that equality is different depending on who you are talking to. In my house we are equal.

LOL LOL LOL..demondonna...!!!

Logic 101...things which are different are not equal.
things which are not equal are different.

How you and your man arrange your house is your business...not mine...good for you two that you can come to an understanding on this.

This is to me what I call a Division of labor. Not equality. How you two decide to divide it up is your business..not anyone else's business.

I just told you how I deal with women ..particularly women who believe in equality. I quickly find that they do not want to be equal to me..particularly in the Risk taking department.

I am not beyond letting them know that I know this...if they cannot handle it ..they can take a walk.

I am not here to take the first place RISKs I take for my monies and to come in last place because she believes in Equality.

I know to many men and males like this and they do not have the acumen to realize what has happened to them.
To much sports conditioning to run touchdowns without thinking about what they are doing.

I Know many of these men and males because they find more peace, safety, and structure at work than at home. It ought not to be this way. A man's home should be a place where he comes for Peace..not just Piece.


I do not get such a sense from the OP on this thread. All I get is Piece..not Peace. Hence the reason I asked the OP ..what they really have to offer a man that another woman cannot do better?? What is the drug that a good woman knows to put a man onto that he never wants to get off of it????

LOL LOL LOL..no problem demondonna..I understand that todays man is never supposed to be able to think this far on his own..and without permission/authorization.
He is just supposed to be ready to run touchdowns and not think about the nature of the game or if it is even worth playing...in lieu of equality.


Thanks,
Orangetom

a reply to: Greathouse

Great quote.

a reply to: TealFox

Not all men cheat. I got a divorce 10 years ago, she believed I was leaving her for another women. I didn't but she didn't believe me and told all our friends this was the reason.

The reason i left was i was sick of her sh!t and we had grown apart, basically i no longer loved her.

originally posted by: zatara
a reply to: orangetom1999

Thank you... I almost thought to be unique and the only one in that department.

Zatara,

You are unique...it is just that those on the standard propaganda default settings of today do not want to hear it in lieu of the standard stuff which for those of us who can still think for ourselves..does not make good nonsense.

But it is politic.

Equality..like the race and sexual issues of today ...boils down to ...someone else pays for them on the public purse, someone else take the RISKS ..they default through on the public purse..and someone else gets the blame for everything while the body politic strokes the guilt programming for votes.

In the end..everything is backwards.


In this backwardness..it is demonic in it's nature. It helps to be versed in Occult religious patterns to see it for what it is...in every category in which it tries to manifest itself.


galadofwarthethird,

Wow!! You have made some good posts here on this thread and the other one as well.

I began down this trail after picking up a paper back at the grocery store by a fellow who was at one time part of NOW...the National Organization of Women. His name is Warren Farrell.

"Why Men Are the Way They Are."

This book was a serious eye opener about Occult backwardness of certain organizations and the direction they are trying to take the country and using/misusing hidden concealed techniques to so do.

Today he does a number of videos in addition to his books..as this is the video era. They are quite interesting once you learn to follow the logic.

What I have learned ..not just with the women but other "Victim " class of people seeking to get on the public purse...is that the "Currency " of their positions is "Feelings."

One political party in particular uses and misuses "Feelings " to substitute for what is true and correct...to "Shakedown" the whole nation...by guilt manipulations...guilt techniques..guilt politics and guilt education.

No thinking allowed...only authorized feelings to default through..

This is of course..PC>.politically correct.. which is censorship.

Once you catch it...you will see it often and over and over and over again...ad nauseam.
It gets like a broke record in it's "Victimization" and accompanying guilt politics..based on Feelings ..not thinking.



Equality has become like the word...."Hitler."

Hitler is designed to invoke "Feelings. " After all...they used the word.."Hitler. What more can be said..all you can do is shut up...and let them play through..no matter how ridiculous is what is happening

Well..."Equality" has become the same or similar. They used the word.."Equality." What more can possibly be said.
Automatic herd mentality is now required...for they used the word.."Equality."

NO one stops to think that they are often passing off Inequality for Equality and for political lucre...votes.

I can apply this to racial issues...to sexual issues and one political cause celeb after another.

But Warren Farrell...teaches you to think your way around it and how it is done to people subconsciously...without them being aware of it. This is what Occult means...hidden ..concealed from those it is designed to affect.

This is pretty much what you describe here..

All it has done is lead to a whole host of people who are some of the most entitled, and some of the papered, who have some of the biggest options, both in society, and both simply because of there gender, ie female, who now believe that they have it so hard when the opposite is true and has been true for ages, from tribal times to now, and when there reality is most of them never lifted a finger to do anything but sit around for the man to come to them with all the things prepared.

Exactly the world I often am prone to using..."Optioins." And so too does Warren Farrell.

Dont even get me started on that whole patriarchy thing,

Exactly what I discovered with Warren Farrells help and also learning about Occult religions...including occult politics going on out here today...for votes.

The patriarchy thing is something they try to foist off on a unawares public, a public pretty much uneducated in it and it's occult or hidden nature.
What you have going on here in economically developed countries is a concealed Matriarchal society masquerading as if it is a Patriarchy.

For it is the women in economically developed social structures who determine how, where, and when the monies are spent on big as well as small ticket items. Not the men..but the women. The men may earn the monies but the women primarily determine how it is spent...whether the women work or not.

The men are mostly do dumb and ignorant to think this through and the social structure keeps them amused with sports, alcohol, and cheerleaders to keep them running touchdowns such that they never learn to ask what is wrong with this game going on all about them.

Then they are required by default to go off on the next war and fight and die for more of this ignorance. Amazing.

Indeed...social engineering in ignorance..carte blanche. Divide and Conquer. Chaos Management.

I get a lot of flack on the Relationship boards over the years because I do not go along with the standard PC version of events and default beliefs.

NO thanks ..not for me.

Once I began to see the patterns of what was going on..or in many instances..not going on.. ..I began to look at the males and what was going on in their lives...and also notice with many of them certain patterns. Then you look at the females in their lives...

Concerning those videos..I will comment on another post here.

Thanks,
Orangetom