Children who say homosexuality is ‘wrong’ could be viewed as extremist threat

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
What if homosexuality thinks children are wrong?

Uhhhhh NO

I believe this is a diversion. I believe the up and coming NWO has no tolerance for homosexuality. I believe they want all out of the closet.
The NWO is building their LIST'S.
Sexual disorders
Mental disorders
Incontrollable s etc.....
Who ever the NWO doesn't deem as perfect for their dream society will be eliminated.
Will you make their 'perfect' list?

a reply to: TechUnique

Liberals like to say that they don't make it illegal to have views different than theirs, but then things like this keep on showing up.

The only "extremists" here is the government...

a reply to: beezzer

And mindless fakers, like the sausage factory of cartoons, all must be the same, no culture, no opinions, no ideas beyond the PC 'norm'.

PC is creating a society of polite liars.

The issue of western societies today is that it is trying denial of human nature. Here's the psychology of ''homophobia''.

Human's have since forever, lived in groups where each group, or tribe for want of a better term, has it's rules and ethics, it's own ways of doing things that have evolved over hundreds of years for the ultimate purpose of safety, self preservation and continuation. That is the same for groups /tribes everywhere, whichever continent.

These days, the 'you are all the same' mentality being enforced upon groups / tribes naturally causes defensiveness. How can the group /tribe be protected, preserved and it's continuation ensured when it has been forced to accept things that aren't from the same group and that are possibly destructive to the group /tribe.

Before a bunch of idiots appear shouting ''racism'', it isn't, it is human nature.

Homosexuality was never really accepted as part of the group /tribe in the west and even less so in other cultures because the group /tribe's ultimate goal is preservation and continuation, which is normally via the route of traceable parentage by the means of marriage to prevent interbreeding and to ensure the birth rate is at sustainable levels. Anyone not conforming to that would have been considered not with the program and such ways frowned upon as a means of natural selection, ie that seen as detrimental to group survival via protection and procreation being considered destructive.

So there is the humanity aspect of how people have seen things for thousands of years, inbuilt into the individual and collective psyche being questioned, naturally there is a reaction to this denial of human nature.

Similarly for other cultures being ''assimilated'', there is reaction to that, which again is natural human nature and apparent in all groups /tribes of every continent.

Now all of these groups /tribes being told to accept things that they innately have unease about again causes a secondary reaction, which again is just human nature. Forced absorption of that which is collectively seen to a group /tribe as a 'foreign body' only heightens the reaction.

It is basic psychology.

There are a lot of things adding to that unease. If LGBT want's acceptance by the group /tribe it should normalise itself instead of doing things like ISIS flags full of sodomy implements as part of a public parade about how proud they are of being different.

originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
a reply to: TechUnique


I'll say whatever I like, thank you.

LOL!!

ofc you can but these days you can find yourself in a cell for it..

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Luckily, humanity evolved from tribes to societies. This helps humanity evolve from chaos, endless fighting, hatred, and segregation to more and more harmony, peace, love, and unity.

It is important to "love thy neighbour as thyself" but it is also important to "love your enemies", only then will people learn to have peace with one another, instead of condemning and causes endless wars and conflicts.

a reply to: darkbake

... and "this" was implemented by the Conservative Government led by David Cameron in the UK.

... and nothing about "this" makes any views different from others illegal.

a reply to: arpgme

The groups /tribes are societies.

The 'you are all the same' agenda isn't working due to human nature.

I won't love those putting sodomy implements on an ISIS flag on a public parade or those committing FGM on their children, regardless of their proximity.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

The groups /tribes are societies.

Some Native American tribes accepted homosexuality and married them (homosexuals were called "two spirited" - special souls).

Homosexuality was accepted in Greece, Rome, India, and many other places...

But even if gay people weren't accepted at all, The Constitution promotes Liberty and Justice for All citizens and does no say "except for gay people".

a reply to: arpgme

The point here is that basic human psychology that is inherent in the psyche of individuals and groups is something that will always be there, as part of evolution.

Regardless of how often people are told how to think, their psychology will be there, their instinct will be there.

And this isn't about America, it is about human nature and humans around the world.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Interesting take.

Unfortunately, the fact is that most of the truly "tribal" communities that we have had access to in recent history all had a societal place for homo-bisexuals and trans* folk. Of course, we were always in the minority, but we served an important function for the group ... serving as mediators between males and females, between the authority figure and the group, and even between the physical and spiritual worlds.

Educate yourself with information on the Sambia tribe in New Guinea, the berdache, and the two-spirit, Siberian shamans, and not to mention: First Homosexual Caveman found.

Same sex couples are found in Paleolithic cave art as well as Egyptian hieroglyphics.

There have always been "lovers of the same sex" or "alternate gendered" people, and, in point of fact, we were more important to human tribal structures (allowing for a "pressure valve" of sorts to release stress created by strict mores and gender roles) than we were to the early city-dwellers and founders of "civilization."

In fact, until humans started gathering in these larger accumulations of people, other methods (like strict enforcement of legal controls and social class structure) became more important in the maintenance of "order." Our positions in society were actually taken over by tyrants and top-down control.

/shrug

a reply to: Gryphon66

The fact that homosexuality was illegal in the UK and most western societies until recently is proof enough of it not being accepted by the group /tribe psyche.

And I don't need ''educated'' on the matter, or a history lesson, the facts are the facts, non acceptance is about human nature.

Do not imply or try arguing things I didn't say. My comment is about non acceptance being part of human nature, and the majority of tribes /societies prove this in their non acceptance and that is the truth. If you can't accept that, that is your opinion. I won't be drawn into arguments about it, it is clearly an exercise in goading.

I have better things to do than explain psychology to those that are just arguing because they can't accept the facts.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

You are also conveniently ignoring the biological facts that a certain portion of the population has always been intersex to some degree ... that is actually sharing male and female physical traits in the same body, ranging from actually possessing both sets of genitalia to all manner of alternate genital structures and hormonal levels.

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: Gryphon66

The fact that homosexuality was illegal in the UK and most western societies until recently is proof enough of it not being accepted by the group /tribe psyche.

How so? You were offering human tribal structures as your evidence ... and the national structures you're referring to certainly don't apply.

Laws against homosexuality came rather late in British history ... 1533 to be exact ... Timeline of LGBT History in Britain

a reply to: Gryphon66

As I said my comment is about human psychology and non acceptance.

I am very educated, if I wanted to do a thesis on homosexuality it would be just that, a thorough professional analysis so do not presume or imply my comment about the psychology of non acceptance as an entire opinion or thesis.

You either accept the point of human psychology being the basis of non acceptance or you don't, I didn't offer any debate nor do I choose to, so stop goading.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

It's a discussion forum. WIthin the rules of the site, I'll respond anyway I choose.

You're very blatantly confusing your opinions with facts. History contradicts everything you said.

Stating facts in opposition to your mistakes is not "goading" ... if you can't accept that, may I kindly suggest you choose another way to spend your apparently very valuable time.

You're not stating anything "factual" about psychology ... you're striving to justify your own obvious biases.

Why would you react so personally to general statements? Is your position really that fragile?

a reply to: Gryphon66

I choose to ignore you as you are not listening, go find another goading victim.

Your presumptions are not welcome.