Planet X just revealed by Google Sky? Black swath gone, ‘winged disk’ visible

a reply to: Informer1958

no i do not " troll " and i resent the implication

i am however begining to suspect that you do infact live under a bridge somewhere

now regarding the clams arising from the IRAS data

its incumbent on you to show they are true

howver - as i have stated previosly - i was involved in the rebutal of the various planet ex claims from 1999 onwards - and so have seen prety much every claim out there .

and like i say - i ghave to wonder why you are beating such a dead horse ?

as for me " proving it false " - please explain how i am supposed to prove a negative

i will however suggets that people actually read what the scientists who analised the IRAS data actually said - not the hyperbole printed in newspapers - and certaily not the ravings of planet ex proponents

a good place to start is :

the explaination

the TL ; DR version is :

IRAS data showed several IR sources that emitted no visible light - as IRAS was the first instrument that could actually detect IR emmitters - this was a discover of great interest to science

however the press miss reported it - no suprise there

planet ex idiots frothed at the mouth over it

and both ignored the follow up data and prosaic explainations of that the IR sources were

thats it - the IRAS farce in a nutshell

a reply to: Informer1958

citations required

a reply to: Zaphod58

High Ranking Govt Reports on Nibiru Planet X

www.youtube.com...

Nibiru / Planet X - 'The Date of Arrival' - An Illuminati Secret
www.youtube.com...

PLANET X/NASA FILES/THEY KNOW IT IS COMING!
www.youtube.com...

Anyone who doesn't take the time to research and watch these video and comes back in a few min and gives a negative comment tells me you are not interested in the TRUTH and you are Trolling this thread. These are only some of the videos that exposes planet Nibiru.

a reply to: Informer1958

Please provide real evidence. Data. Not some random YouTube videos. If those videos have any truth to them (which is a mighty big if), then there must be cold, hard data behind them. Show us that data.

a reply to: Informer1958

So are you debunkers going to say this information is a lie? If so, I want you to prove it.

It is you that is bringing all this "information" to the table, so it is you that needs to prove that it is demonstrably correct.....simply trawling sites and copy & pasting outlandish claims and then challenging people to prove that they are false/lies is not the way to prove anything.

a reply to: Informer1958

Actually I've already seen the last video on there. It shows Beta Pictoris, which is a normal naked eye star in the southern hemisphere. It's over 60 light years away and headed AWAY from our solar system, despite BP's claims to the contrary. It is not "Nibiru." Try again. Try doing some real research instead of just copying from others. What are the coordinates of Nibiru? You claim it has been found. Prove it.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Stop Trolling, do some real research and stop regurgitating the same garbage over and over. These YouTube video are very credible and as I said ANYONE jumping in this fast after I posted these video, have demonstrated to ignore Truth.

a reply to: ngchunter

Your information is wrong and that tells me you have not watch these video.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
These YouTube video are very credible

Then prove it by providing the data. It's not a difficult concept....

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: ngchunter

Your information is wrong and that tells me you have not watch these video.

Quit with the broken record schtick and prove it then. And just for the record, I'll take ngchunter's word over that of some random YouTube video any day. They've demonstrated countless times that they know what they are talking about, and have no problems sharing their work for others to verify.

originally posted by: ngchunter

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: wildespace

I can only reiterate that an approaching planetary-sized (and especially brown-dwarf-size) object would be visible long before it comes anywhere near us, and amateur astronomers would have picked up on it. You cannot cover up the sky.

Amateur astronomer have found Nibiru, yet you and most of the debunkers are so closed minded and ignore all their data as you just have demonstrated.

Oh really? We found Nibiru? Then where is it? Coordinates please.

^ This.

I don't want to watch Youtube videos or visit alternative/anti-mainstream sites in order to get this evidence; I want to see it at the MPC reports site, or at least at credible astronomy groups and forums, findings which are repeated and confirmed by other amateur and professional astronomers.

a reply to: Informer1958

These YouTube video are very credible

YouTube is not a credible source, you'll need verifiable facts, hard data....you claim to have done extensive research, surely that involved more than watching YouTube videos.....didn't it?

Where is your research?

a reply to: Informer1958

sigh - when people bring up mr jim macanney as a " source " i just know the are regurgitating idiots doom porn

thats another name that belongs in the dead horse folder .

I have given you all enough data that millions of viewers have watched on YouTube. You debunkers have chosen to "ignore" amateur astronomers data. Prove this prove that, is all you can regurgitate. The fact is the proof of the data is in these videos. Your questions have been answered with credibility. As I said ANYONE posting with in min after I posted the credible evidence is Trolling. I spent years on the 911 threads exposing the lies while millions of ATS viewer witnessed the truth being exposed. I came under attack just as I am here exposing hard core facts exposing NASA and government cover up about planet Nibiru.

What I am seeing in this thread is a lot of gate keeping to enforce the official lie. Nothing new to me, however many of you debunkers are exposing yourselves.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Stop Trolling, do some real research and stop regurgitating the same garbage over and over. These YouTube video are very credible and as I said ANYONE jumping in this fast after I posted these video, have demonstrated to ignore Truth.

Pot & Kettle

They are IDIOTS & YOU are gullible so will you take up my challenge that when Nibiru doesn't appear ALL you believers have to leave ATS so will you accept, do YOU have the NADS to put your trust in those IDIOTS on youtube.

I bet you won't.

originally posted by: Informer1958
The fact is the proof of the data is in these videos.

No, the proof of the data should be in correctly-formatted reports, such as the astronomers (amater or professional) use to report detection of new asteroids, comets, and other Solar System bodies. I'm not an astronomer myself, so can't comment on the exact format, but I think it involves images that show the supposed new object, its celestial coordinates, and (when a series of images has been taken showing the motion of the object) its preliminary orbital parapetres.

Let's see some of those for Nibiru or Planet X.

a reply to: wildespace

You have not watched any of the videos I have posted and you clearly have just demonstrated it.

originally posted by: Informer1958
I have given you all enough data that millions of viewers have watched on YouTube.

That's not data. That's a bunch of quacks on YouTube. Show us the scientific data.

You debunkers have chosen to "ignore" amateur astronomers data.

How does one ignore data that has not yet been provided?

Prove this prove that, is all you can regurgitate.

Beats the hell out of blindly believing whatever some YouTube video says.

The fact is the proof of the data is in these videos.

No, it isn't. The fact that you keep saying otherwise only highlights your ignorance of how science works and your eagerness to believe in things that without any proof, so long as they tell you what you want to hear.

Your questions have been answered with credibility.

No, all you've done is avoid the repeated questions and requests for evidence (which you claimed to have). And YouTube videos alone have no credibility.

As I said ANYONE posting with in min after I posted the credible evidence is Trolling.

It doesn't matter what you've said, it's still not true.

I spent years on the 911 threads exposing the lies while millions of ATS viewer witnessed the truth being exposed.

Do you want a cookie or something?

I came under attack just as I am here exposing hard core facts exposing NASA and government cover up about planet Nibiru.

If your exposé there was as pitiful and as lacking as what you're doing here, I can see why you "came under attack". I'd also say those attacks were quite justified.

What I am seeing in this thread is a lot of gate keeping to enforce the official lie.

No, what you are seeing is a number of discerning, intelligent members asking you to present proof of your dubious claims.

Nothing new to me, however many of you debunkers are exposing yourselves.

"Exposing" ourselves as what? Intelligent? Rational?

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

I really feel sorry for you, I really do. Apparently you do not know how to use Google to research facts. Your snide remarks only expose you.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

I really feel sorry for you, I really do. Apparently you do not know how to use Google to research facts. Your snide remarks only expose you.

I'm not going to waste my time researching something that does not exist. You have claimed (more than once) to have already done such research, and you've also made numerous statements about the evidence that you've found, yet you've presented absolutely nothing, and instead have told people to go watch a bunch of loony YouTube videos that offer no data and serve no purpose other than to reinforce the unfounded beliefs of the gullible and to generate ad revenue for the people behind them.

If you have the data and the evidence that you've said you do, present it. Otherwise, you are merely trolling. Put up or shut up.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

I'm not going to waste my time researching something that does not exist. You have claimed (more than once) to have already done such research, and you've also made numerous statements about the evidence that you've found, yet you've presented absolutely nothing, and instead have told people to go watch a bunch of looney YouTube videos that offer no data and serve no purpose.

If you have the data and the evidence that you've said you do, present it. Put up or shut up.

I posted videos yet you stick your finger in your ears, eyes closed and you have a one side believe system that will not allow you to look at alternative proof. You have the audacity to call all you tube videos " loony' with I might add you misspelled. So why don't you just SHUT UP!