Planet X just revealed by Google Sky? Black swath gone, ‘winged disk’ visible

originally posted by: ngchunter

originally posted by: Monsterface
A reply to: ngchunter
What is wrong with some of you guys?
I never claimed that there was a planet of any kind.
I posed a few questions and suddenly everybody starts telling me what I claimed.
Nobody has ever answered any of the questions just distractins with getting personal.

Actually I directly contradicted all of your claims regarding a fake contradictory planet that hides behind the whilst it approaches from "directly below the ecliptic" yet for some reason is invisible to amateur astronomers and telescopes, even those in the southern hemisphere.

If you do not have an answer dont feel compelled to write something.

I gave you the answer, an answer you didn't want to hear and still refuse to hear.

Its Astronomy not Geometry

Actually what you're talking about is very basic geometry. Technically spherical geometry I suppose, but still geometry. You haven't even managed to construct a claim self-consistent enough to require delving into the astronomy side of things.

and the reason you can see the Northern Star in the Northern Hemisphere is because the Earth is also tilted back away from the sun at 23.5 degrees but you know this.

LMFAO! Oh man, you have a very confused notion of how the sky works. No, that is not an excuse to see the north star while somehow an object at the southern celestial pole would somehow remain invisible except "deep in the southern hemisphere." The tilt of our planet is why that particular star is the north star, but even if our planet had no tilt at all relative to the ecliptic there would still be circumpolar stars that never set and can be seen from virtually the entire hemisphere. Same goes for the southern hemisphere; any star or celestial body close to the southern celestial or ecliptic poles will be seen from virtually anywhere in the southern hemisphere, including Australia. You don't need to be at the south pole to see it.

I thinkI will get out my binoculars tonight and look at the Southern Cross from Central Europe.

Go ahead, it'll just demonstrate more of your ignorance of basic geometry. Yes, spherical geometry explains why that won't work.

originally posted by: ngchunter

originally posted by: Monsterface
A reply to: ngchunter

Go ahead, it'll just demonstrate more of your ignorance of basic geometry. Yes, spherical geometry explains why that won't work.

My ignorance? One of you highly intelligent primates claimed you can see the S, Hemisphere skies from the northern Hemisphere because it is basic geometry. The example with the N. Star was used to support the ridiculous claim. I just commented on how ridiculous it was and said it was a heap of crap. But as now you have changed your mind again as you sais in your last sentence it wont work. Exactly my point in the first place.
One more thing, and you might want to have someone read this to you since it obviously challenges you to do so. I NEVER MADE ANY CLAIMS OF A PLANET A STAR OR ANYTHING ELSE HIDDEN BEGIND THE SUN!
I presented several questions that were answered with ridiculous examples with the N. Star. You are making the claims and I still disagree with you and your geometry that lets you view the southern skies from the northern hemisphere. Maybe your geometry can help you decipher the letters of the alphabet put into words and sentences. Just for the record you started the insults. I can even take that but you are going to have to keep you and your sidekick's claim about using badic geometry to view the southern skies from the north.

a reply to: Monsterface

Your not going to prove anything with these so call debunkers. It seem they like to use the same scrip, like the word " mythical "
None of these debunkers are astronomers. They claim there is nothing behind the sun, yet they cannot prove it. These same debunkers call Nibiru a "mythical" planet. It doesn't matter what we bring to this thread as fact, a few on here cannot handle the truth. And they demonstrated that to me by name calling, ridiculing, and personal attacks.

I have to agree the government disinformation and cover up about Nibiru worked very well.

Researcher-activist John Moore asserts a number of his contacts have independently confirmed that a top secret meeting took place decades ago in a New Orleans briefing where a roomful of US Navy admirals were informed of the coming inevitable disaster. In response to this potential earthshaking event, emergency contingency plans have been covertly relocating the national capital from Washington DC to Denver. In preparation the financial center of New York City is also quietly moving its assets inland to higher ground. The elite has purportedly been secretly preparing for this possibility for a long time. And as usual the public always the last to know has been intentionally kept in the dark.

Then there’s the highly controversial, mysterious so called tenth Planet X (also sometimes known as Hircolubus or Nibiru) approaching our solar system with potential catastrophic implications. Even the Washington Post ran an article way back in 1983 chronicling the discovery of the planet estimated to be five times the size of the earth revolving around the sun in a 3600 year cycle. In 1990 researcher-author Zecharia Sitchin (The End of Days) interviewed supervising astronomer of the US Naval Observatory Robert S. Harrington to discuss Harrington’s recent discovery of the red Planet X.

As it moves closer, it’s speculated to make an oceanic splash including large sized meteoric space debris creating a strong enough force to throw the earth’s axis off kilter, causing already rising sea levels to instantly become killer tsunamis submerging underwater much of the global population that inhabits the earth’s coastlines. Nearly half the US population resides within coastal counties. A January 14, 2014 on the air early morning broadcast of a Sacramento NBC affiliate station may have inadvertently caught a partial view of Planet X silhouetted by a darkened superimposed Venus.

www.globalresearch.ca...

And a few on here will call this ALL lies!

a reply to: Informer1958
Thank you informer1958 for being one of the few people on this thread that seem to be able to communicate in a civil intelligent manner. As it was clearly demonstrated in this thread, you need only to present a logical question requiring a logical answer and you are automatically tagged as making claims of planets. I deliberately did not go there, yet they stamp everything black or white and use primitive name calling and even go to the point of trying to cover up some nonsense statements they made and push them on to someone else. Besides there was no reason to make such an absurd geometry claim in the first place.
Why even attempt to try and have an intelligent debate with these type of people that can give no explanation but lash out with insults and rubbish at best.
I am through with this lot!

Let's stop with personal arguments and bickering, and start looking at facts and answers to the questions.

@Monsterface, what were your questions in this thread that you'd like to get answered? I'm sure we can try to answer them without the drama or personal attacks.

My question - is there any direct observational evidence of a planet approaching us, or even a planet orbiting the Sun beyond Neptune and Pluto?

Thank you monsterface, and you are correct. I will be back on here around November or December when amateur astronomers have the final proof that Nibiru is coming around from behind the sun.

According to some, we should be seeing planet Nibiru around this November. Many of us know, there is no real set date to when Nibiru will make it past by earth. However, we know things are getting bad here on earth with daily earth quakes, rising oceans, and islands just popping up over night around the globe. The earth core is heating up and warming our oceans. The Gulf stream has stop according to scientist around two years ago. Our magnetic fields are be dramatically effected. This is all because of planet Nibiru is moving closer in our orbit. I have seen some photos of Nibiru on YouTube posted around the world. Yes, there are some phony images, and sun spots, and photos glare in many. However, not all of them are fakes. I don't care what the debunkers have to say, I did my research and I have seen enough evidence that planet Nibiru is real and in our orbit.

Seeing how silent our government and NASA are about Nibiru speaks volumes to many of us, not to mention the unexplained death of well known astronomers that were ready to expose this issue.

a reply to: wildespace
My question was simply: if there was a planet or a system connected to ours (which I find quite plausible), would it not be difficult to see if it were on a orbital plane perpendicular to the other 8 planets?

To answer your question: not to my knowledge. On the other hand Michael Brown and several other astrnomers suggest that due to the strange orbit of Sedna there could very well be something with a very large mass that caused or holds Sedna's orbit.
He (Brown) even goes as far as to suggest a binary system with a star that has considerably less mass than the Sun.

a reply to: Monsterface

He (Brown) even goes as far as to suggest a binary system with a star that has considerably less mass than the Sun.

The possibility has been ruled out.
wise2.ipac.caltech.edu...

No large object which can (even remotely) be said to resemble the mythical Nibiru (much less its "star")
www.universetoday.com...

Brown agrees.

Brown encourages others to take up this final search right in the galactic plane but apparently his own intentions are to move on. What remains to be seen — that is, to be discovered — are hundreds of large “small” bodies residing in the much larger region of the Oort Cloud. These objects are distributed more uniformly throughout the whole spherical region that the Cloud defines around the Sun.

Furthermore, Dr. Brown maintains that there is a good likelihood that a Mars or Earth-sized object exists in the Oort Cloud.

www.universetoday.com...

originally posted by: Informer1958
I don't care what the debunkers have to say, I did my research and I have seen enough evidence that planet Nibiru is real and in our orbit.

This says it all. You'd rather continue to believe your delusional fantasy than listen to facts.

a reply to: Informer1958
I have seen a lot of trash on the internet but I agree with you that there is a considerable amount of sound viable arguments as well as several videos and pictures some of which were taken by leading News Channels. Strangely they vanish hours after they appear. Fortunately many have been archived.
I will not commit on a date but I do see grounds for taking this matter very seriously.
Incidently this thread itself puts a scar on the topic because that whole Google Sky hype was also either incorrectly presented or perhaps willingly to feed more trash in the subject onto the internet and disorient people away from focusing on the right information.
Whatever the case, I am not here to force feed anybody my thoughts or oppinions but to discuss the matter in a respectful manner with those that wish to partake in this interesting topic.

a reply to: Phage
Thank you very much for your contribution with reference information. I will certainly take a look and judge for myself whether to continue my quest for information or to be satisfied with a very conclusive answer that outweighs the existing facts.

a reply to: Phage
Thank you very much for your contribution with reference information. I will certainly take a look and judge for myself whether to continue my quest for information or to be satisfied with a very conclusive answer that outweighs the existing facts.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance
Can you not stop with the insults. Just because somebody has a different opinion than you do you must not always get nasty.
Are you a Neo Nazi by any chance? Sound like one.

a reply to: Phage
Can you explain the Pioneer anomaly. I know NASA tried to but it does not sum up with a host of other things.
What about the irregularities in Uranus and Neptune orbits.
Why did so many Astronomers that believed venturing out of the safety zone of mainstream astronomy all die. That is quite a coincidence. Possible but quite a coincudence.

a reply to: Monsterface

Can you explain the Pioneer anomaly. I know NASA tried to but it does not sum up with a host of other things.

First, do you know what that anomaly actually is? It is an unexpected decrease in outward velocity. It occurs on both spacecraft, each moving in opposite directions out of the Solar System. Can you explain how an unknown body would account for that?
spectrum.ieee.org...

But it has actually been explained quite thoroughly, and not by NASA.

Then, we numerically solve thermal conduction and radiation equations using the actual flight telemetry as boundary conditions. We use the results of this model to evaluate the effect of the thermal recoil force on the Pioneer 10 spacecraft at various heliocentric distances. We found that the magnitude, temporal behavior, and direction of the resulting thermal acceleration are all similar to the properties of the observed anomaly. As a novel element of our investigation, we develop a parametrized model for the thermal recoil force and estimate the coefficients of this model independently from navigational Doppler data. We find no statistically significant difference between the two estimates and conclude that, once the thermal recoil force is properly accounted for, no anomalous acceleration remains.

journals.aps.org...

What about the irregularities in Uranus and Neptune orbits.

What irregularities?

Why did so many Astronomers that believed venturing out of the safety zone of mainstream astronomy all die.

I have no idea that they believed that. How many is "so many?"

a reply to: Monsterface

I just check some of the debunkers sources and they are coming from NASA. I personally do not trust NASA or it's science. Like NASA wouldn't lie to us would they? Of course they would, they get government contracts all the time. And NASA better play ball the way the elite want them to. To many credible whistle blowers from the Navy, and government are coming out the wood work telling us that NASA is covering up all the data concerning Nibiru. We have to rely on armature astronomers for the truth. Remember back in the 1980's NASA did disclose the fact that they found Nibiru and after that it went silent. To many astronomers have been killed to keep this silent. Yet silence is all we get from our government and NASA about everything concerning Nibiru. The fact is, these people on here have not debunked anything concerning planet Nibiru.

a reply to: Monsterface

And these debunkers want to shut me up, because the truth cannot be exposed.

This is an old fight. “Science” with its uncertain certainty versus “faith” and its unscientific science
But Mr. Lee makes some good points.

Science lies and exaggerates its certainty all the time.

So folks should be very careful claiming certainty


Ill come back when they decide Pluto is a planet again


I always liked little Pluto and then the wise men banned it from the SS and made it a little runt planet

a reply to: Willtell

I agree with you on your comment. Anyone can look at all the globe warming garbage science bought and paid for by our politions to scam us out of our money.

a reply to: Phage
No I don't really, so thank you for the information.
I've gotten just bits and pieces and I am going to need some help to try and put things together.
I must honestly say that I need time to answer your questions to me.
Im going to bed its late. Tomorrow I'm at work so as soon as I have time to dig in here I will return with my comments.
Joe