9 dead in shooting at South Carolina church Senator Clementa Pinckney killed

a reply to: cavtrooper7

OCD? No, think you need to do a refresher on what that is.
Your last source said it was not sure how he got it.

This one says CNN is reporting he bought it.
CNN has been wrong before, do you really take that as confirmation?

When I find it I get conflicting claims, officials saying it was gifted and some saying he bought it.
Guess we will have to wait to find out the truth.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Perhaps I'll JUST have to content myself by having YOU look this time, I've done it twice and you still fret.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Well only your second source says what you claim.

I will go ahead and bring up the first again.

Shortly after he turned 21 in April, Dylann Roof got a gun. What’s unclear is how.

A senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation told CNN that Roof’s father bought him a .45-caliber Glock handgun for his birthday.

His grandfather says Roof was given “birthday money” and that the family didn’t know what Roof did with it.

Your first source offers two scenarios.

The second one claims that they were told he bought it.
So conflicting reports.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Silly me, I thought we were all about denying ignorance here.

Turns out some are all about throwing as much crap against the wall as possible, declaring it all proof, and ignoring anything and anyone disagrees.

Ah well. The beer is still good

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Now that I think about it, can someone tell me the actual evidence pointing to the suspect's guilt?


--Have any of the living witnesses come forward to identify Roof as the gunman they saw in the church? No.

--Can the slugs and shell casings found in the church be linked back to the gun seized from Roof via ballistics evidence? Haven't seen it.

--Did they recover gunshot residue (GSR) on Roof''s hands or clothing? Haven't seen it.

--Were his fingerprints found on the gun/mags/ammo? Haven't seen it.

--Did the suspect confess? CNN claims he did, based on two anonymous LE sources. Yeah, anonymous sources, which aren't worth very much. So why don't they show us the videotaped confession? Probably because there is no confession to hear.

--What about the photo stills of the suspect allegedly outside the church and his car at the scene? Those photos could have been from a different time and location, for all we know. And even if they are real, it might be evidence he was there, but that's not evidence he committed a mass shooting.


Face it, MSM worshippers, ya got nuthin.

a reply to: starviego

I did respond "politely." Right up until you went from vaguely legitimate questions into outright fantasy.

You ignored every single thing I said. Or tried to argue, and then ignored the response to said argument.

Probably because it disproved your "theory" every single time.

a reply to: Shamrock6

I still think he was handled by someone or agency for an agenda driven purpose. We will never find out the media will go silent on him and his background just as they did with the Boston Bombers.

a reply to: starviego

what about the witness he let go to run tell what he had done.

all the conspiracy ends right there.

you would need to look to spiritual forces to find a conspiracy on this one

a reply to: starviego

...and you aren't going to.

Why, you ask?

Because it's part of an ongoing investigation. ...you have no right to know anything about an ongoing investigation. For them to release anything would be to prejudice the investigation...which could, in turn, result in this nutball being released.

Again, you, or anyone else outside of the investigation, have no right, or need, to know.

Sorry 'bout that.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: starviego
what about the witness he let go to run tell what he had done.

What witness? Does she have a name? Did she say Roof was the gunman? That account came second-hand, anyway.

Im gonna pose this question to all , who here think this guy should be given the rights to guns
1 Given his mental state.
2 His drug abuse.
3 His terrorist and thuggish inclinations.
I will be off line until Monday nite Japan time, but think about these questions and answer truthfully the pros and cons.
See ya'll Monday.

originally posted by: seagull
For them to release anything would be to prejudice the investigation...which could, in turn, result in this nutball being released.

Except of course the two anonymous LE sources who claimed Roof confessed to the crime. I didn't hear anybody scream "that's prejudicial to the investigation!" when that leaked out.

a reply to: starviego

emphasis on "leaked".

...and at trial, that will most assuredly come out, and be used for just that reason. Which is why, rest assured, when the leaks are found, they will rapidly become unemployed, or should.

Not to mention the DA's office is probably beyond pissed off.

originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: starviego
what about the witness he let go to run tell what he had done.

What witness? Does she have a name? Did she say Roof was the gunman? That account came second-hand, anyway.

yes there are vids of her speaking about it after the shooting.

I seen her on fox but I bet you could find her on youtube

So... This guy is being housed next to the cop who murdered Walter Scott, and one of the Charleston victims was known to Obama.... Surely all of this is just an ironic coincidence.

I've always wondered if this drug, scopolamine aka 'Columbian Devil's Breath', has been used in many of these murder-suicides or mass shootings. Apparently after administering this drug to a victim you can tell them to empty their bank account, help you take all their belongings from their house, have sex with you, or kill themselves, and they will comply, all the while appearing on the outside to be in a normal conscious state. They will do whatever you tell them to do. Mayans used to give this to families that were sacrificed...they would dig giant holes, tell the families to go in them and stay in them while they were buried alive, putting up no fight whatsoever. If you guys haven't seen this VICE News story on it, you should watch it. It is one of the scariest things ever.

This is just a hypothetical theory of mine, but what if you gave this drug to someone, then told them to go shoot a place up and/or then kill themselves? They would most assuredly do it...creepy to think about.

a reply to: Gh0stwalker

Given that protective custody cells are a comparative handful in number compared to general population, where else would they put him?

Though I'm sure it wouldn't matter if he was cell mates, next door cells, or on the same tier. It would be fodder regardless.

a reply to: humanityrising

I like this theory.

A sensible explanation.

Its lead pastor, Pinckney — among the dead — recalled his church's history in a 2013 sermon, saying "we don't see ourselves as just a place where we come to worship, but as a beacon and as a bearer of the culture."

"What the church is all about," Pinckney said, is the "freedom to be fully what God intends us to be and have equality in the sight of God. And sometimes you got to make noise to do that.

Sometimes you may have to die like Denmark Vesey to do that"

www.blufftontoday.com...

Clemente Pinckney spoke in the past about this church's place and responsibility and greater ministry. If you're interested in reading more of his speech about this you can find it HERE

a reply to: humanityrising

that stuff is powerful but chemist have figured out much lately when it comes to the spiritual realm and how to chemically interact with connections that we have to the unseen and that which influences us. the drug he was taking done the trick.

that is a great vice episode and shed light on serious stuff but imo this was a crime that was planned in places we can't see

www.vice.com... s-before-rehab

here is an interesting link about the new synthetic drugs and there orgin in new zealand of all places

they can reproduce any compound they want and the name of the lab tells the real story STARGATE LABORTORY