CERN is affecting our world! It's time to really wake up ATS!

originally posted by: PainGod
Here are the words of one of the greatest scientific minds of all time. "Stephen Hawking says the ‘God Particle’ that scientists believe created the world could actually end it, too.

The particle – know as Higgs boson – “has the worrisome feature” that it could become unstable at extremely high energies and create a “black hole” that would collapse the universe, the legendary British physicist has warned in a new book titled Starmus.

Using CERN doomporn to promote his latest book.

Not sure where you got that quote from but it's clearly untrue, or rather Hawking said similar and a journalist has completely misinterpreted/misreported the science.

Hawking has always maintained it could cause miniature black holes, giving off Hawking Radiation.

However as he states, it takes a collider at least 1000 light years in diameter to feasibly create one, and even then they evaporate in billionths of a second.

Because the Universe is bombarding us with millions of them a second, they pose little to no danger to us or the Universe. If they did, the Earth would never have formed, let alone survived this long.

Colliders have a fail safe always ready. Water ready to flood the system if something goes way wrong. Google them up and have a look lots of water nearby. In my book it would make more sense to build in the desert but they need water as a failsafe.

a reply to: bastion
Ya exactly you would need to make a collider the size of a planetary system for it to be of any use, and really even if some sort of magical door opens into other dimensions. Lets face it none would even know what that would be or look like, I know it may be far out there, but it may be nothing like people expect it to be. And its even less likely that anybody would want to go through it to come here to this place least of all.

So really. The same old things ensue, ad nauseum.

Like a caveman afraid of fire, some people don't need to understand what a thing is before they decide to fear it.

a reply to: mikell

I don't believe so. You might be thinking about a reactor.

That last paragraph was a direct quote from the book i believe. a reply to: bastion

originally posted by: Thorneblood

No one in this thread really knows what they are talking about with any degree of certainty, but a handful are at least willing to entertain new ideas and consider things from a different perspective instead of swallowing the "official line"

The rest just like to # all over people out of what i am assuming is an obviously misguided sense of superiority.

I guess I don't understand what constitutes a "manners" violation with subsequent point deduction on the site.

Does it have something to do with how few words you use to surround the expletives when insulting other members?

originally posted by: wirehead
Like a caveman afraid of fire, some people don't need to understand what a thing is before they decide to fear it.

This is such a perfect statement and could be applied to just about everything here right now.

a reply to: DelMarvel

Not sure, since the majority of this thread is filled with veiled insults i suppose my use of a single expletive should make me the one who takes a deduction of points. I am ok with that.

If we are Denying Ignorance here then i just gotta ask....why does it seem like 90% of the posts made by some of the most respected members in this community read as ignorant and frankly demeaning statements instead of actually advancing every side of this conversation?

Care to respond to the major point of my post and the theories they proposed or did you just feel a need to take a little jab?

CERN has a live blog running now if anyone wants to watch reality implode....personally I'm hoping for wings and a flaming sword...

CERN Kills us all - LIVE

Webcast of Destruction

When physics talks about dimensions we don't mean alternate universes. When we discuss dimensions it means they ways in which we can move. For example where all familiar with 3d space to place an object at a location I need 3 coordinates and x y and z coordinates and w more the time are particle I'd there. So we can locate an object by 3 coordinates and time we know where it's at. But physics doesn't limit us to just 3, In fact we require more space more directions of movement. To explain gravity and why we can't see it we believe it's in a dimension to small for us to see.

Our human perception of dimensions are limited. We only perceive things in three dimensions. We can understand that time is an extra dimension, an extra location for any event, but we don't see time in the same way. We experience it very differently from spatial dimensions as human beings. This hints that human perceptions of things may not be the end of the story in terms of what's possible. General relativity, which was Einstein's big idea, said that dimensions could be curved. Think of it this way if space can curve they can loop back on themselves . If our dimension was curved you could go in one direction and end up where you started.

In physics we can have space warped in small circlesI and if the circle was, say a hundredth or a thousandth the size of an atom, then that is so small you probably wouldn't even notice the presence of that dimension. But to find something really small we would need to now know additional coordinates on top of our normal x y and z. Now we have a looped dimension and we have to give coordinates in that as well.

CERN ISN'T LOOKING FOR EXTRA WORLDS OR OTHER UNIVERSES!! It is looking for other coordinates things may be hidden. When I see the garbage of extra dimensions being opened they are already open they are part of our universe. The CERN doom porn is just a total lack if understanding of what physics means by extra dimension.

PS I'll go into black holes from cern in another post but let me say they are zero threat I'll explain why later.

Well I am very worried that they named it Cern after the boatman/ferryman, ie DEATH. and that they have shiva stature out front, ie destroyer.

Don't think their intentions are good in the least.

originally posted by: Unity_99
Well I am very worried that they named it Cern after the boatman/ferryman, ie DEATH.

How is CERN even remotely close to Charon? They are not even pronounced the same.

originally posted by: Unity_99
Well I am very worried that they named it Cern after the boatman/ferryman, ie DEATH. and that they have shiva stature out front, ie destroyer.

Don't think their intentions are good in the least.

Pluto's moon is named charon not the same as cern. So now you need to worry about Pluto I guess and cern is safe.

a reply to: dragonridr

Not really. Pluto is an element of revealing deep mysteries. Cern is right here and they've coded it in plain sight.

Etymology relates to ever pillar throughout history that the terms, words, and sylllables stand on. And hence language is quite a spell ing, curse ive event.

The name Cernunnos occurs only on the "Pillar of the Boatmen" (Pilier des nautes),[11] now displayed in the Musée National du Moyen Age in Paris

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: dragonridr

Not really. Pluto is an element of revealing deep mysteries. Cern is right here and they've coded it in plain sight.

Bollocks. Besides, CERN is an acronym, standing for Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire.

Earthquakes and volcanic activity are being cause by fracking, not by CERN.

CERN doesn't put out a powerful enough magnetic field to affect the Earth on a planetary scale.

originally posted by: Unity_99
Etymology relates to ever pillar throughout history that the terms, words, and sylllables stand on. And hence language is quite a spell ing, curse ive event.

The name Cernunnos occurs only on the "Pillar of the Boatmen" (Pilier des nautes),[11] now displayed in the Musée National du Moyen Age in Paris

en.wikipedia.org...

Ok this has nothing to do with the boatman of ancient greece like you implied. In fact this pillar is named boatman because it was used in a dock. Has nothing to do with Greece it is pagan gods of the celts. In other words you misinterpreted everyrhing but thats not unusual when people make dubious claims.

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