Josh Duggars Sex Abuse Scandal

a reply to: zbeliever

My mother is 72 has Parkison's and the Dementia that goes with Parkison's....This is the only show that we can get her to watch. She would state over and over if every family was like this one , the world would be safe..

Perhaps she's not too fragile to watch the series called "Parenthood"?

If you think she could handle it, of course. It's what I would want to watch if I were in her shoes.
Not contrived "reality-TV" drones, but a drama about how hard it is to live in this world - for all members of the family.

originally posted by: Annee


My grandson got in trouble in preschool for staring at and touching girls butts. How would you handle it?

Wait a minute, did you just make this up to prove your point?

I would (did) handle this by teaching my child as soon as he could speak that NOONE besides himself and me (mom) can ever touch his private parts, ever. No adults and no other children, period. I also made it clear that it goes both ways and that he cannot touch other children's private parts because they are called private for a reason. I would spank his preschool ass if he ever did something like that but thankfully just explaining (and repeating) about those things was enough for him to understand.

Which brings me to the age apropriate sex-education (question by another member) that starts from birth and continues to adulthood. If and when a child asks - you answer in simplest possible child appropriate terms. My son asked about babies at 4,5 and i explained now he is 8 and he wondered if a baby is born every time mom&dad sleep together - so i had to explain condoms.

We are from Europe btw, you guys are a bit weird when it comes to sex i must add.

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

I dont think he is a sexual deviant just a ball of hormones at the time.

I think you are wrong. And even if he 'was' 'a "ball of hormones", why were his parents not aware of that?!!!!
HOW could they not be noticing the signs of puberty and adolescence? Not talking to him about that "ball of hormones" and appropriate ways to adjust to it....how is that even ????? wow.

WHAT KIND OF PARENTS ARE THEY?

(rhetorical, but....you get the idea) If anyone is interested I could answer that question, but.....I'm all "eyes and ears" to how you all see it.....I am fully aware that "my" opinion isn't important here in this debate. Still, I'd like to hear the variety of opinions.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

I dont think he is a sexual deviant just a ball of hormones at the time.

I think you are wrong. And even if he 'was' 'a "ball of hormones", why were his parents not aware of that?!!!!
HOW could they not be noticing the signs of puberty and adolescence? Not talking to him about that "ball of hormones" and appropriate ways to adjust to it....how is that even ????? wow.

WHAT KIND OF PARENTS ARE THEY?

when you have 19 kids its probably not that easy to keep track of all the important stuff they are doing or not doing which is a problem.
how could they not notice? 18 other kids to follow...naive...stupid

what kind of parents are they? terrible

a reply to: Mugly

Well - since you're being complimentary - I should let well enough alone

:-)

Anyhow - I have known some consistently pregnant women - and some people who come from large families...

There isn't a rule. Large families often do well - or not. Small families - same difference

My dad's family was Catholic - not quite as many kids as the Duggars of course...

The Duggars got their own TV show pretty much for that reason. That, and having a bunch of kids while living a very strictly scripted life - which, as it turns out is not so much reality as fiction on the face of it. Underneath they're dealing with the same real life issues as everyone

Life is hard

My problem with the Duggars is that they didn't stick to just living their lives. They wanted to tell everyone how to live - and they also thought they had the right to judge

So, on that note - I'm outta here

this is interesting. a judge ordered josh duggars police records to be destroyed

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Police in Arkansas have destroyed records detailing the investigation into sexual abuse allegations against TLC's "19 Kids and Counting" star Josh Duggar.

“The judge ordered us yesterday to expunge that record,” Springdale Police spokesman Scott Lewis told The Associated Press on Friday. "As far as the Springdale Police Department is concerned this report doesn't exist."

Lewis also told the AP that these types of records are usually kept indefinitely.

originally posted by: Exitt

originally posted by: Annee


My grandson got in trouble in preschool for staring at and touching girls butts. How would you handle it?

Wait a minute, did you just make this up to prove your point?

NO. I did not make it up.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Yikes:

InTouch reported that his father took Josh to an Arkansas state trooper who was a personal friend, who took no action other than a "very stern talk." That officer is now serving a 56-year term in prison for child pornography, the magazine reported, and no case was ever brought against Josh Duggar.

The friend of the family state trooper who gave the stern talk is serving a 56-year sentence for child pornography?

I wonder if the very stern talk from the law enforcement officer was, "how to hide your child porn and abuse better from us cops"...

originally posted by: Exitt

originally posted by: Annee


My grandson got in trouble in preschool for staring at and touching girls butts. How would you handle it?

Wait a minute, did you just make this up to prove your point?

I would (did) handle this by teaching my child as soon as he could speak that NOONE besides himself and me (mom) can ever touch his private parts, ever. No adults and no other children, period. I also made it clear that it goes both ways and that he cannot touch other children's private parts because they are called private for a reason. I would spank his preschool ass if he ever did something like that but thankfully just explaining (and repeating) about those things was enough for him to understand.

Which brings me to the age apropriate sex-education (question by another member) that starts from birth and continues to adulthood. If and when a child asks - you answer in simplest possible child appropriate terms. My son asked about babies at 4,5 and i explained now he is 8 and he wondered if a baby is born every time mom&dad sleep together - so i had to explain condoms.

We are from Europe btw, you guys are a bit weird when it comes to sex i must add.

Absolutely agree with you.

As I stated earlier "from birth you have to keep the dialog open".

a reply to: Annee

He was 14 lol. It has nothing to do with Religion or any groups. It has 100 percent to do with THE PARENTS!!!! He should have been taught what NOT to do, especially with him having so many sisters running around the house when his puberty was kicking in. His parents are MORONS in just about every aspect, except believing in God.

a reply to: Mugly

when you have 19 kids its probably not that easy to keep track of all the important stuff they are doing or not doing which is a problem. how could they not notice? 18 other kids to follow...naive...stupid

Yep, instead of raising a few kids and making sure they are happy and well taken care of they pretty much have to ware nothing new, work their butts off just to keep the family going from age 5 and constantly be ignored by the people who matter. I have 20 that says every one of these kids will have serious issues as they get older from the neglect alone. I don't blame Josh one bit, I blame the Parents 100 percent. I would not doubt it if this story explodes into something to make the parents look like predators because their faith in God. Its a God believer bashing kind of decade and I am sure Obama will send his AG to do some investigating on this one lol.

a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

I blame the Parents 100 percent.

I would not doubt it if this story explodes into something to make the parents look like predators because their faith in God.

Well, I think it's more like the parents are neglectful and irresponsible....possibly linked to their "Quiverfull" religion.

Its a God believer bashing kind of decade and I am sure Obama will send his AG to do some investigating on this one lol.

lol

If "God believers" would consistently present themselves and behave themselves collectively as their 'professed savior' asked them to do, they would not endure Bashing. THESE PARENTS have brought it on themselves.

We've heard of Evangelical 'mega-pastors' ' kids suiciding. Of them being caught literally with their pants down. Cheating, and lying, and defrauding their 'flock'.

We know about John Hagee insisting on bombing other people and his ability to rally "Christians" to promote such a thing in the name of "The Rapture" and "The End Times."

We know that Bibi N. would prefer to annihilate anyone who criticizes him or his 'product' (Israel as we know it via the media)......and that ALL of the Abrahamic religions DESPISE ONE ANOTHER in the world theatre.


Again - I think about my microbes.

Left alone, they work together to maintain the status quo and an equilibrium. Enter a 'cancer cell', and they then GROUP TOGETHER to fight it.
My consciousness has nothing to do with it.

All of this unrest and infighting and other-fighting and finger-pointing and killing and bombing and lying and obfuscating is ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

That will be $.02 (fee optional).

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

Well, I think it's more like the parents are neglectful and irresponsible....possibly linked to their "Quiverfull" religion.

I think parents can be so caught up in their own ideology (or business, or drama) that they miss "signals" from those outside themselves. The Duggars went to marriage counseling and a marriage retreat (Christian, of course), because she felt her husband was too wrapped up in his own stuff he was neglecting her needs on a personal level.

Their "church" is actually in their home where they videotape and broadcast from.

If anyone was thinking these kids had friends from church, think again. Occasionally they would get together with other families, but that was not often.

a reply to: Annee

The Duggars went to marriage counseling and a marriage retreat (Christian, of course), because she felt her husband was too wrapped up in his own stuff he was neglecting her needs on a personal level.

Yoda voice:
Surprised I am not.

BW voice: Apparently she AND HER HUSBAND are 'too wrapped up in their own stuff' to the extent that they are neglectful of their CHILDREN's needs - on a personal level. The kids need two stable parents.....not two parents who are all wrapped up in themselves and their TV show.

Much like the Nauglers. Only different. But kind of the same. But different.

.....ya know.....

a reply to: Patriotsrevenge


oh yeah it is no kind of life for those kids.

i always felt like it was kind of disturbing myself.

its strange how another tlc show, honey boo boo was always getting ragged on cause of how they lived but the duggars were oh so fabulous.
there are different ways to neglect your kids and by having 19 of them and a tv show you can pretty much guarantee that there is no serious parenting going on yet people ate it up.

ive always felt bad for those kids.
being religious and raising your kids as such is one thing. what the duggars do is on a whole different level and in my opinion, at the very least it is neglect and borders on abuse.

that is not a healthy environment to raise kids in.

im not saying kids should be allowed to run wild but they need to have some sort of life. they need to experience things. they need to be able to ask questions about what they feel and i dont think any of the duggar kids had that.

This show always creeped me out...Now I know why.

The statute of limitations has run out, otherwise I would like to see him charged for the CRIMES he committed.

You don't pray THIS away. He ruined several lives and left a scar on those young girls for life. He deserves a lot more punishment than just having their weird TV show cancelled, IMHO.

They should rename the show.....13 unmolested and counting.


Guess it just doesn't have the same ring to it.

The interview the parents just gave, didn't do anything than show they were co conspirators by rationalizing the sexual assault and molestation "Oh he only touched over the clothes blah blah"

These people were always a*eholes sitting on their fake moral pulpit declaring such bull# for so long, they deserve condemnation as much as the boy they raised. He confessed to his parents three times to get help and understanding and it fell on deaf ears.

Vile disgusting humans. Hope the kids get taken off them. They are morally reprehensible with all their BS they spout.

We are a Danger to Children? us Gays? those in the LGBTQ community? we are a danger to family values? we are deviant and Mentally unfit?

I'm Just Saying....

a reply to: Darth_Prime

yes, we humans tend to be a danger to our children. Not all of us....but some of us.

That is about the only generalization that holds true. All the others....not quite so much.