Serious Question: Why are so Many People Afraid/Unaccepting of Transgender People?

I am pretty sure that many people didn't care when women wanted equal rights back then.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Cuervo

Stalking- no this individual in next to me at the urinal as Gomer Pyle used to say ,'surprise,surprise,surprise'.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a person wearing a dress but feeling comfortable using a urinal is likely a transvestite, not a transgender person.

That actually brings up an important point. I think a lot of people are thinking of transvestites when talking about transgender folks. Very big difference.

a reply to: Cuervo

There is a reason that the only treatment is to change the body and not the brain.

So I guess the concept is that the damage to the brain is already irreversible? Or do you think it's because we have more treatments available currently to change the body, VS what's available to effectively modify the mind?

originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
A few things I'd like to address here: firstly I never said that I was transgender or referred to we, I or us in reference to any of my comments regarding "the community" you can check my small post history and confirm that. You made an assumption which I will admit was correct. Im a bit bothered by that as I assume that you made that assumption based on my defense of the trans community as opposed to me simply being a kind and compassionate person. Ill also add that my name may have implied that as well.

Secondly I'd like to add that I am not the easily scared type so that one you got wrong. In contrary to what you believe I actually am more comfortable being out and about in the city as opposed to the backwoods conservative stronghold of a area I live in. I also think that you may be implying it is trans peoples own fault when they are attacked based on the clothing they choose to wear. Ie: the whole it is the victims fault for wearing that skirt mentality.reply to: violet

Ok yes I did think you were transgender and your username did influence that assumption. It also appeared you had said going out was a scary experience for you personally.

originally posted by: Infinitis
a reply to: Cuervo

There is a reason that the only treatment is to change the body and not the brain.

So I guess the concept is that the damage to the brain is already irreversible?

No. The "concept" is that there is no damage to the brain. The brain is the largest sexual organ you have. You cannot convince the brain it is a different gender than what it already "knows" it is, even if it's not what matches what's between your legs. It's not some "feely" arbitrary assumptions; this is actually how it works no matter how much we don't like it.

The body didn't develop the way the brain thought it should. Since we only know how to change the gender of the body and not the brain, that's the only way to treat it (aside from removing yourself from the equation entirely as many do).

Again, it's not an issue of "I feel like I should be this or that". It's a real thing and it totally sucks. Unless you transition... but even then, some transfolk have issues unless they can blend without being harassed.


ps edit - I see you edited your question while I was answering and you actually preempted part of the right answer. Good job with that speculation, you were on the right track.

a reply to: Cuervo

There's an old adage if it looks too good to be true it usually isn't. Im glad I spotted this individual when I did I cetrainly would hit on this individual if I did not know LOL-maybe if I tried I might like-but call me old fashioned -I did have a drink and a joke with him however at the bar later.

a reply to: Phage

You claim to fight for a cause and explain why others cannot understand because of their own views. Yet you do not have any experience dealing with this issue, and you make claims to imply you have insight.

Do not discount other views because they are not in alignment with your narrow minded PC vision of "acceptance" of all except those who don't accept all.

People have the right to dislike a behavior or practice, even if people claim it's "natural" no matter how obviously unnatural the behaviors and practices are. Look at what they do to themselves in order to "heal" their "disorder".

Reminds me of lobotomy days.

Not being nit picky but here is my comment you referenced verbatim: This is not about hurt feelings, this is about one of the most misunderstood, feared and hated communities not having to worry about being beaten to death going to the grocery store or having to be subjected to hateful verbal abuse. Stare and gawk all you want, I would stop and pose for a photo but leave the hate speech and violence at home.

As for the name it actually has dual meanings but I again I admit the overt implication in it.a reply to: violet

One reason why ONLINE i do not like them is because

often when i am (as a girl )

looking for guys online

ill click a profile and then it will say i am transgender or pre-op

and its like if your trans or pre op

dont call yourself a guy, your not a guy!

a reply to: TrappedPrincess

To be honest, I also suspected because of your name. I thought it was clever and something I might have chosen. It makes sense.

I'm a trapped goddess so I totally get it.

a reply to: Infinitis

You claim to fight for a cause and explain why others cannot understand because of their own views.

Where did I claim to fight for a cause?

People have the right to dislike a behavior or practice, even if people claim it's "natural" no matter how obviously unnatural the behaviors and practices are.

Yes. People have a right to dislike anything they wish. They do not have a right to deny others the right to express themselves in any manner they see fit. More to the point, they do not have the right to deny others any rights which they themselves enjoy. People have a right to consider anyone subhuman but that does not make it fact.

Two way streets are a bitch.

Well the Jenner special was pretty heartbreaking to watch, people feeling the loss, and the grand kids, how do you explain grandpas now grandma to a toddler, very tough situation.

originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
A few things I'd like to address here: firstly I never said that I was transgender or referred to we, I or us in reference to any of my comments regarding "the community" you can check my small post history and confirm that. You made an assumption which I will admit was correct. Im a bit bothered by that as I assume that you made that assumption based on my defense of the trans community as opposed to me simply being a kind and compassionate person. Ill also add that my name may have implied that as well.

Secondly I'd like to add that I am not the easily scared type so that one you got wrong. In contrary to what you believe I actually am more comfortable being out and about in the city as opposed to the backwoods conservative stronghold of a area I live in. I also think that you may be implying it is trans peoples own fault when they are attacked based on the clothing they choose to wear. Ie: the whole it is the victims fault for wearing that skirt mentality.reply to: violet

i missed answering the last part.
No. I did not mean clothing. I more or less meant using safety measures that we all do when we go out as to not attract attention. That might mean locking your car door when you drive through the downtown area of a large city, like we do in Vancouver. We get on Hastings street and liock the doors because there are carjackers out there who can jump in and we don't loiter in underground parking lots. Stuff like that about being low key. I mean in general

Thank you and trying to follow this and Game of Thrones at the same time is too much. Thank goodness for the pause button aye.a reply to: Cuervo

Well thank you for the safety advice I had never considered locking my car doors or avoiding high crime areas all together for that matter.a reply to: violet

a reply to: Phage

You have fought for a cause with every message you have sent.

I agree with your second statement. Why are you saying as if it would be something I would oppose?

originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
Not being nit picky but here is my comment you referenced verbatim: This is not about hurt feelings, this is about one of the most misunderstood, feared and hated communities not having to worry about being beaten to death going to the grocery store or having to be subjected to hateful verbal abuse. Stare and gawk all you want, I would stop and pose for a photo but leave the hate speech and violence at home.

As for the name it actually has dual meanings but I again I admit the overt implication in it.a reply to: violet

Thanks for refreshing my memory on your comment, it was the I will pose for a photo because people stared so I assumed you must be quite the looker!

a reply to: Cuervo

I see. In your theory the brain is your "god" and could never malfunction.

Makes total sense, we all know there is no such thing as illness that derives from interactions within the brain.

a reply to: Infinitis

You have fought for a cause with every message you have sent.

I've expressed my opinion. If that is fighting, so be it.

Why are you saying as if it would be something I would oppose?

Did I?

a reply to: Legman

I retire from the thread as the winner.

What did you win?