Universe A Matrix Computer Game Designed By Aliens, Say NASA

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: roadgravel
What I find ' hilariously stupid' is the ego and shot sightedness of the human race.

I find it egotistical to think someone cares enough about us to simulate us, and maintain the equipment that simulates us.

But what if we are ISO's from tron legacy? Not the center of the universe ( programming) just a spontaneous manifestation?

a reply to: Entreri06

World of Warcraft doesn't simulate the state of each and every atom in each and every grain of sand either.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Entreri06

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: jaffo

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: jaffo

not only that, scientist tend to look at history as well to reference different things and evaluate theories......

But thats ok , we will just throw all of that out.........


Wouldnt it be hilarious if these aliens they are claiming end up being misogynistic, barbaric beings.....

Sweet sweet Irony

Oh for sure. At the back end of all these discussions is really nothing more than a desire to bash the notion of God or bash humans in general. This idea that any and all aliens have to be benevolent is laughable. . .

Agreed, be their aliens im sure their temperament is just as varied as what we have here on earth

Who said the aliens would be benevolent?!?!

Also to the poster your replying to, it's incredibly self centered to think that any idea put out there is only to discredit your personal interpritation of religion...

Did I make that claim that anyone claimed they were benevolent? Hmmm no, seems to me that I replied to another poster that im sure they are just as varied as our own.......

Its also incredibly ignorant to presume that you know what all my religious and spiritual beliefs are, me making a correlation to what is obviously an interesting comparison in no way implicates anything to my creation beliefs.....

So stop projecting........

I was refering to the poster you quoted as I said in my post... He said that all these theories are just ways to beat up on religion.

Maybe I quoted the wrong text if you weren't the one who said that you were tired of everyone thinking aliens would be benevolent.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Next weeks winning lotto numbers please Mr super-human overlords or it isn't happening.....

So, all you buggers reading this are reading something already thought of and I am typing something programmed into my "subconscious" and it is not actually my thoughts but that of alien/God/Super-human overlords and everything we understand and have been taught is a big fat lie and we have been deliberately deceived.......I KNEW IT!!!

I will remember that when posting replys in the future.

Like this Post I was hesitation to reply and said aw # it !

and let see what Happens So Beer With ME ?

Ever Heard of
Quantum Entanglement?
en.wikipedia.org...


When Two Related aka Like Twins objects ( Preferably Photons ) that can be at Great Distance's Apart
from a Mile's to Light years apart.. If one Move's , the Other Movies With it ... or the Opposite Affect.. with No Guides of Measurement. The Reaction will be at a Instant with no Delay on the Other Particle..

As For every Action there a Reaction ... too even so small... brings out a Butterfly Effect..

As you have Said:
Aliens, Super Man .. How about Dimensional Sentient Beings.. you know the Same People at CERN is trying to find out .. if there is another dimension, universe or a god particle, Big bang Theory etc..

The People At CERN has this to Say !

Extra dimensions, gravitons, and tiny black holes Extra dimensions may sound like science fiction, but they could explain why gravity is so weak

home.web.cern.ch...

So if Scientist Are thinking it ,, and also We may be living in a Universal Hologram ,,, and if that is True ...

it just put's about everything out the Window... of what we know and Fantasy Realms and MAGIC ... is placed on the MAP Again...

as Then... Anything is Possible.. and we may have a Retake / Relook on Ancient Mythology ..


Ohh I like it when you said this :

all you buggers reading this are reading something already thought of and I am typing something programmed into my "subconscious" and it is not actually my thoughts but that of alien/God/Super-human overlords

Some Invention's Thoughts Theory's , From Men/Woman in Science ... and Science Fiction Too...

the Quote ...

All of a Sudden
It just Came to me

In My Dream ...


Technovelgy ( Where Science Meets Fiction )
www.technovelgy.com...

Im just on a Wait ... and See... Game ... What NASA & CERN , Will Come Up with... and Expose to the Public.. in there Findings ...

originally posted by: jaffo

originally posted by: Entreri06

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
I find it Ironic....

Post a thread saying NASA claims that the universe could be created by a powerful race/beings , as a virtual/alternate reality....

50 flags, well received by others "this is perfectly plausible"

Create a thread that we were created by a powerful being written about in old txts?

Get called a stupid foolish religious idiot that believes in a sky god...

Anyone see the hilarious hypocrisy thats glaringly evident.....

No, because the people who wrote the anchient texts were a bunch of wife beating, slave owning pedophiles who thought the earth was flat.


While real life scientists are responsible for ALL the wonders of the modern world...

Actually, all science and scientists can do is work with what the universe--or God--gives them to work with. Big difference. And yeah, if we are going to have a discussion about magic aliens YOU HAVE NEVER PROVEN TO EXIST creating all of reality to...well, who the hell knows why because unlike God they do not tell you why...then I think it's fair to talk about something else you say is made up and completely unproven.

Lol they also don't tell you to rape and murder people as countless people have said god did.....

Of course they are nuts and just hearing voices, but me thinks the pot shouldn't call the kettle black..

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

While this is still technically an unknown, mathematicians theorize that pi contains every possible number combination in the universe.

"As it turns out, mathematicians do not yet know whether the digits of pi contains every single finite sequence of numbers. That being said, many mathematicians suspect that this is the case, which would imply not only that the digits of pi contain any number that you can think of, but also that they contains a binary representation of britney spears’ DNA, as well as a jpeg encoded image of you making out with a polar bear. "

Though, even if pi doesn't have this property, it is possible to invent such a number.

Infinite monkeys typing Shakespeare, and such.

a reply to: Box of Rain

That is just pi. There are an infinite number of irrational numbers out there. Heck there are MORE irrational numbers than rational numbers out there and they are both infinite sets. So that being said, there are an infinite number of irrational numbers that have that property. Not just pi.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: 0bserver1
Maybe it's better to leave religious discussions in the religion forum . It's a scientific story nothing more...

isnt it a thin line?

If this is plausible is it not plausible that the other could be correct as well?

The issue here is glaringly obvious

People condemn religion and any belief system spawned from it....

Yet will believe this, even tho the premise is almost exactly the same....

Seems to me that science is their religion

So it seems religion is perfectly at play here in both cases........as Enteri so eloquently showed us with his vitriolic retort

Only because religious people can't seperate logic and reality from wishful thinking long enough to actually have a intelligent debate. They just fall back on their "duex ex mechania". Which doesn't actually answer any question...

a reply to: Entreri06

world of warcraft isnt a simulation. it doesnt model atoms or computers, or anything really.

anyway scale in a 3d videogame is basically arbitrary as its a function of the size of the viewport and the 3d models being rendered.

the point was that to simulate this universe that we live in to the accuracy that our real life technology can detect and measure to. in both scale and as a function of time. would require a computer much larger, billions of times so than the universe as we know it. and or run at a fraction of real time. billions of time slower.

i guess the real argument would be that, we all live in a simulation and our reality in no way simulates the real world, its akin to the "aliens" version of world of warcraft. i think people would be less inclined to believe that.

If true, what are the odds that this matrix was created about the same time period that some people think divine being(s) created the Earth? Will all the people who have 100 percent faith that anything which is written in a science book published before they are born, has to be the gospel...will they let there be light?

a reply to: thinline

lol that is the one interesting aspect of this entire thing, that people will have faith in science that they dont understand. while at the same time rejecting faith based religion.

originally posted by: roadgravel
What I find ' hilariously stupid' is the ego and shot sightedness of the human race.

Did you believe that, or does your ego?

Far as I know, the linked material in the OP is tabloid-ish. I haven't found any similar stories on more established sites. And I don't know of any supercomputer which can calculate at twice the speed of the human brain, even if you combined all the supercomputers together..

See here:
gizmodo.com - An 83,000-Processor Supercomputer Can Only Match 1% of Your Brain...

But as the linked article states:

You've undoubtedly heard over and over again about what an absurdly complex entity the human brain is. But a new breakthrough by Japanese and German scientists might finally drive the point home. Taking advantage of the almost 83,000 processors of one of the world's most powerful supercomputers, the team was able to mimic just one percent of one second's worth of human brain activity—and even that took 40 minutes.

So one supercomputer utilizing 83,000 processors was able to mimic 1% of 1 second of human brain activity in 40 minutes. If human brain activity in 1 second is B then: (0.01 * B) / 2400 = actual amount processed in 1 second. So you'd need 2400 of these supercomputers to process 1% of 1 second of human brain activity in one second. Or to process 1 second of full brain activity in 1 second you'd need 240,000 of them.

Put this in perspective. The computer in the link I give was the world's 4th fastest supercomputer in 2013, Japan's K Computer. It consuemd $9.89 million of electricity in one year doing 10% of its potential.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

The fact that we've discovered ways to calculate properties of infinite just shows that we don't understand the concept. I would agree with you if not for this point. I still think the universe, as a computer, could have them exist in theory, and only utilizing it when the # itself needs to be expressed.

Is it not the same to say, the universe will not last long enough for a being who can live forever? Doesn't necessarily mean there's no room, even tho eventually, time-wise, this person will occupy more space than the universe itself did while it lasted (quatribillion years afterwards)? Our eventually then is; the # has the ability to keep on listing it's digits, but before it could even do so, the universe it existed in would have died (over an infinite time-span?) & this it also.

But even that won't REALLY work, because you see infinite is a concept. One I doubt we understand. Yet. Can a concept die if the universe it was in stops existing? With a mind to think it, it can, & this is the whole (albeit confusing) point of my "rendering" argument.

originally posted by: snarfbot
a reply to: Entreri06

world of warcraft isnt a simulation. it doesnt model atoms or computers, or anything really.

anyway scale in a 3d videogame is basically arbitrary as its a function of the size of the viewport and the 3d models being rendered.

the point was that to simulate this universe that we live in to the accuracy that our real life technology can detect and measure to. in both scale and as a function of time. would require a computer much larger, billions of times so than the universe as we know it. and or run at a fraction of real time. billions of time slower.

i guess the real argument would be that, we all live in a simulation and our reality in no way simulates the real world, its akin to the "aliens" version of world of warcraft. i think people would be less inclined to believe that.

I'm pretty sure that such a computer wouldn't be able to run on binary code either. Maybe quantum computing, but even that I'd doubt.

a reply to: Arrestme

The thing is that the universe isn't approximating the numbers. Ever. So even if the irrational number isn't stored permanently in the cache and has to be recalculated every time it is used, it STILL has to be represented. Otherwise, there would be weird rounding errors everywhere at the microscopic level.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

It doesn't have to, but frankly -- ours doesn't either. For example: it's no trick to use "sand" as background noise in most instances, and only model detailed high-res sand when sand is observed in high-res....

a reply to: olaru12

(Disclaimer; I do not really know what I am talking about, this is not my field I just have a theory)

With quantum physics I have heard there are resonate frequencies that can be expressed in geometric patterns, and they are associate with "Sacred Geometry". The mathematical dissection of these patterns has revealed a binary code identical to what we run computers on, some guy in the 50's came up with it I think, so this has led people to speculate that we exist in a Matrix or computer program of some kind. I will say that perhaps that computer code is a natural law, I will also say that binary can exist without a computer but a computer cannot exist without binary, so by causality the computer does not precede binary.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

correction, pi is expressed in our universe. Gotta get down to what these things really are to us, besides strings of #'s. These repeating #'s seem to be layered data of some sort (not like looping), almost like dragging a .exe file into an open notepad. It just can't read it, because it's displaying only hex data, & there's almost no point in reading into it since it's simply not what it's for.

@Snarfbot. You can't really argue the point that we live in a digital universe. It's atm a superb but fringe level of physics, but every1 I see working with it claims it solves all the problems of relationships between Classical & Quantum physics.

There is just more & more proof and evidence being put out there that we're LIKE a hologram, & LIKE a simulation. But if you think we are EXACTLY like those things, you're assuming way too much & it will make u disbelieve the important points that were discovered.
Quantum physicists are like only scientists I feel I can trust anyway. Any1 else?

originally posted by: Arrestme
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

correction, pi is expressed in our universe. Gotta get down to what these things really are to us, besides strings of #'s. These repeating #'s seem to be layered data of some sort (not like looping),...

Wait...Are you saying Pi is a repeating decimal? If so, do you have any sources for this claim?