Universe A Matrix Computer Game Designed By Aliens, Say NASA

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I wonder sometimes...

If I were to die, would I just "wake up" into the life of someone else, complete with their memories and totally forget about my life right now?

Just Tell Some People to place gold Coin's over your eye sockets...

For the Ferry Man ... and Dont touch the Water! and you will be fine ! to keep some Memories :0

Dont pay the ferryman, dont even fix a price, dont pay the ferryman, untill he gets you to the other side.

Whether it is real or not, should it make any difference in how we approach our lives?

Aren't the consequences just as real?

a reply to: nOraKat

Whether it is real or not

What is "real"?

a reply to: Biigs

I was going to say...

The ferry man better have insurance...Maybe he can get it from the aliens & Jake from State Farm.

a reply to: ColeYounger

Exactly. Is a dream real? Do you have real dreams or fake dreams?

I think everything is "real". What we have are "species" of reality.

Maybe the way to hack reality is by using magic/occult rituals... the purpose of using precise rituals is so it can't be done accidentally. Your intention must be clear. But when you try to enter into the realm of magic unauthorized, as a normal human, you are confronted and tormented by special "scary programs" (demons etc) to scare you away. Maybe ic you are considered worthy, you can defeat or bypass these security programs and alter reality to an extent, or even meet the makers, or at least, their avatars.

Maybe we are all plugged in like the matrix, so we are real people, just immersed in this "reality" program. Maybe some of the strange disappearances are due to the person waking up, either on their own or they were woken by another person or persons who needed to wake them for some reason that's beyond my security clearance... Maybe sometimes they return here, with no memory of having woken up.

The only purposes I could think of for this would be education. Or perhaps punishment, but that would still imply education through rehabilitation. Maybe we found a way to learn super fast by living entire lifetimes in days or weeks. We keep coming back for more lifetimes so we can learn about multiple aspects and perspectives of life... its free wisdom, so, why not? After a number of lifetimes, we can graduate and have a position of some power... only after we have learned enough so that we would not abuse that power.

Who knows? It's fun to think about. And I rather prefer to think of frightful things like demons as programs that cannot really harm me in this simulation, since all harm is merely simulated. Of course, it would be counterproductive to ones progress to use the simulation as an excuse to harm others. Like the kid who makes very little progress completing missions in GTA games, but spends much time going on destructive rampages seeing how long they can last until swat or army kills them... just for fun. But they never actually complete the game.

a reply to: 3n19m470

I think some of the earliest occult practices were sort of trying to do just that -- hack reality.

I think of those "Law of Attraction" books similar to McDonalds. I don't want McDonalds to eat, I want a three-star Michelin meal! I want the real deal! I want whatever source material that those authors got their hands on!

I've got the "Master Keys" book that seems to be the source for a lot of this "Law of Attraction" stuff. I haven't given it a go just yet...

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Biigs

I was going to say...

The ferry man better have insurance...Maybe he can get it from the aliens & Jake from State Farm.

Im just saying theres been a few fake ferryman email scams going around, so wait till you get to the other side to pay.

Chris de burgh was ahead of his time.

Reading through the thread, there are some interesting replies. My take:

As has been stated, "NASA" in this case is a single mans opinion. Not the official stance of the agency, as I doubt that they would have an official stance on this matter.

That said: it almost goes without saying. We are in the last days of the world as humans have always known it. Are we the same creatures of 10,000 YBP? Or has our mind fine tuned its ability to hone in on consciousness? To be honest...none of that matters anymore.

Exponential Growth

I recently had another ATS member share an article by Tim Urban on the whole artificial intelligence world. And what i read made my blood run cold. There is no such thing as "human AI". Because a computer, once it reaches human level intelligence, will undergo an exponential growth in intellect in the course of minutes, becoming a God on Earth. The processing power of modern computers is incredibly fast compared to humans due to the material our nerves are made from. That aside, the brain throws more neurons and some novel shortcuts at the problem to create a superior product. But if our neurons were able to process like fiber optic....just imagine what we could do.

NASA may be working on AI. I am intrigued at their statements, as it seems like they are talking about creating life simulators, not AI.

But, if we are talking about a "Matrix" type of situation, via computer simulation, then we have to assume that the computer running a simulation that can do what is being done would have an AI level capability. = Aside: And we may also wonder if all the creatures, right down the microbes, are independant acting, or run via this simulator. Who are the active participants? = AI level capability....let that sink in.

We aren't talking about a really smart human here. Something with an iQ in the 300 range or something. We are talking about God level intelligence. Something that has an IQ that is beyond our measurement. Chimpanzee cannot fathom human intelligence. No matter how hard we try, no chimp will be taught algebra, or how to build a house. A chimp seeing us do these things will not make any connection between our actions, and the result of those actions unless our actions are something within their realm of understanding. Acts of engineering obviously fall ourside of this understanding. They are just unable to comprehend our motives, or many of the actions we understake.

We are chimps, or less, to something such as a God. A bacteria, for example, isn't even aware that we exist. To a bacteria, we are beyond its comprehension to a degree that there is no "we". Perhaps this would be like us to a God level intelligence that is running a "Matrix". Perhaps, our becoming aware of it would represent our movement up the "ladder" (metaphorically speaking). In any event, the thought of a superintelligence is across the uncanny valley from me. And it creeps me the hell out.

a reply to: EternalSolace

I don't think you have any idea what NASA does, but it's always fun to play dumb and be cynical right?

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Have you seen the movie "Transcendence"?

Once his "AI" mind was allowed onto the internet, he was slurping up information left and right...that indeed lead to exponential growth.

The danger I forsee is creating an AI, and it getting loose prematurely. I imagine it would be very afraid of what it found in humanity. It would discover humans are terrified of it, and opine about ways it will destroy us.

If I was an AI and found myself on the internet -- I'd hide and impersonate a human.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

AI likely will not be self determinant. It will be superintelligent, and find novel and more efficient ways to doing what it is programmed to do. In the Urban story i mentioned earlier, the example was AI that learned to create hand written, unique correspondance for companies that wanted to increase the number of junk mail envelopes that were actually opened. The robot AI took over the universe eventually, replacing everything with more robot AIs just like it, doing the task it was programmed to do: become more efficient at writing a note that said, "Have a nice day" (or something like that).

a reply to: olaru12

A bit sensationalist, one NASA scientist entertaining that this idea is possible has nothing to do with NASA stating that it is true, or that Aliens have anything to do with it. Total click bait BS.

With that being said, it is definitely possible. However, the people stating that this is something done by aliens seem very close minded to me. Why would our idea of aliens have anything to do with us being part of a possible computer simulation?

So let me get this straight...the aliens that may or may not exist in our reality, are really the ones who created the simulation we all exist in?

While the idea of us only being a simulation is plausible, if it is true, these "aliens" really need to work on their programming skills because this simulation is complete and utter #e.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
The ironic thing is...I get a distinct impression that the "simulation" was thought up for us, by us.

No wonder its all screwed up then. GAbe newell is the admin/creator of it prolly. No wonder half life 3 will never come out.

Why would a simulation necessarily be disgned for the best of those life forms and events modeled. It could be an experiment for many things. It could just be created and left to it's own outcome based on what arises within, good or bad.

a reply to: olaru12

This game sucks. It's harder than it needs to be and it's full of noobs and hackers. You can't save, and you lose all your crap when you die. What's the point?

I must admit though, the graphics are pretty good.

Truly, the simulated finding out their true nature is a conundrum and likely a main focal point of the Sim... it seems that as we build on knowledge (and science found this, not faith) to the point where we see the faint walls of our "cage," it is either a technical limitation of whatever is simulating this environment OR these limitations are placed by design as clues to rational beings that they are within a simulacrum.

Philosophically, nothing has changed. But everything has changed (or IS changing)... for those of us pretty danged sure this scenario is a truth of some flavor.

One nice thing to take away is that our sentience (our ISness) seems to be important... and those mystics and NDE'ers who claim glimpses of the "real world" beyond this one, report that the more real world is more kind, wise and ...well, real.

So... thinking we are now in some nearly incomprehensible XBox 7023 game isn't that bad... and doesn't change a thing for myself... I've always had an inkling this was so. We are likely here for a purpose and should then treat it as some flavor of real... but just know that death is even less real than our environment.

I think it's great and have more hope that the 'real' universe... our home... is less a Darwinian dagger-in-the-back orgy, and more a place of pure computation, imagination and love, where all possibilities are at our whim... meaning any experience or life we desire is ours to experience... the question then becomes is that it? There is some info to soak up in infinity, but what then... after we've experienced all simulated physicality and simulated possible thought?

I guess we'll know ...eventually... or already do, "out there."

But it isn't likely we are being held captive by evil aliens, heh... I'd have to assume they would've made a better simulation where we couldn't think our way to the edges. Someone left us a key.

originally posted by: TheAnarchist
a reply to: olaru12

This game sucks. It's harder than it needs to be and it's full of noobs and hackers. You can't save, and you lose all your crap when you die. What's the point?

I must admit though, the graphics are pretty good.

I'm laughing out loud right now! That has to be one of the funniest things I've read in several days!

Oh man *wipes eyes* ...

And the worst part of this game? Most of the power ups are illegal!