September 11: The New Pearl Harbor [Video]

a reply to: LaBTop

thats the one point that they can't explain; and that being a section of building (piledriver), much smaller than the remaining section(the bottom 3/4), visibly losing mass as it ejects from every side, and actually accelerating through the remainder of an uncompromised structure. There has to be an accelerator because the natural explanation defies physics. You have to be extremely hard-headed to deny this.

I like to say what 9/11 really was. The nail in our freedoms coffin. The rock that started the avalanche. The beginning of the end of the Empire. I do hope it doesn't escalate into the nightmare they had planned. I think that hope needs help to reset the damage to our freedoms. Repealing the Patriot Act wasn't good enough. There's still the NDAA amongst others.

a reply to: LaBTop




I decided to post a video of the example you have given. Take a look at that building it's 100 stories shorter with a Smaller height versus base ratio to distribute the weight. It is slab and piller designed and conveniently stripped and ready for demolition and is not built on perimeter tubular frame system like wtc1 was. My God doing any comparison between the two buildings is like comparing apples and oranges.

You wonder what the accelerater was it was mass and inertia.

Where's the impact crater at where the van blew up at the Oklahoma City Bombing? There's no big hole in the ground where it exploded. I always wanted to know and always questioned the line they fed us. I question the lie they feed us daily now. I know the world isn't pretty anymore. It never truly was. I think the Oklahoma City bombing was the test phase before 9/11.

I know, don't cater to outrageous conspiracy theories right? Go shopping, there's nothing for you to see here.

It's silly to think the loaded planes could NOT have brought down WTC 1 & 2. Everything, everyplace else that was happening....yes, it was crazy and suspicious but let's start with the premise that the planes COULD have diced the towers.

Even as an academic exercise, put aside the collapse-implosion theory, and it gets the researcher closer to the chain of events and who-did-whats connected the issue. My only reservation would be the (supposed) explosions in the basements the preceded the big event. "We have planes".

One of the most curious happenings was the (supposed) phone calls from the planes. You cannot get a cell signal at altitude, but the biggie was the utterance, "it's a frame" at the end of the passenger's voice recording. I don't want to miss attribute it, but yeah.

a reply to: Willtell

There are many official and unofficial government people in many countries who have revealed the truth about 911 from Pakistan and Germany for instance

Can you list them or did you read it on another conspiracy site?

a reply to: FlyingFox

One of the most curious happenings was the (supposed) phone calls from the planes. You cannot get a cell signal at altitude,

It was not a cell phone.
It was the seat back phones used in airliners.
Huge difference.

Some people just don't get it. It's not how it's done. It's the why. That truth is there in your face...

Even those (of rational mind and not in bed with TPTB) understand that "9-11" was used as a "false flag" in order for the Bush dynasty to continue its vendetta against the once butt-bummy, Saddam; not unlike the bombing of Malay and Singapore were ignored (to say nothing of the intercepted Japanese communiqués), allowing the Pearl Harbour bombing to take place and be used as a/an [legitimate] entry point into WWII. (NB: The U.S. War Powers Resolution dictates that the nation cannot declare war on a foreign nation state unless first attacked).

Whether or not these events were orchestrated in order to facilitate thus score-settling (as distinct from 'merely' U.S. opportunism) is eristic.

originally posted by: qwerty12345


Some people just don't get it. It's not how it's done. It's the why. That truth is there in your face...

THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT!

Your observation is key into understanding why the discussion always leads to how and not why or who, forgetting all the facts like israeli involvement, the planning and execution, the fact bin laden had nothing to do with 911, and some of the hijackers are still alive just to gloss over the tip of the icebergs

a reply to: bobbypurify

So there isn't a list of qualified personnel whom inked their name in full support of the OS?

Uhhh yea there is.
Page after page of them and their companies.
Here is a link to a 202 page Fire test of the floor truss system conducted.
I counted 5+ pages of the people and their companies involved in the test.
They built and burned an identical floor section used in WTC.
They show the results with real data and lots of pictures for those on here who don't get it.

Where as Richard Gage never physically examined any of the ruins.
His most exhaustive test was to drop one cardboard box onto another.

Since you put his 2300 in such high regard look into his signers bio's.
Here is the first page.

Mohamed Ahmad
Logic Design Engineer
Masters in Electrical and Computer Engin
Folsom, CA, US

Would you put him on the witness stand?

Michael Anderson
Mining Engineering
Fairbanks, AK, US

How about him?
Does he have the skills to determine if the building should have fallen?

Elio Arcaro
Chemical engineer
chemical engineering, Padova (Italy)
Ferrara, Italy, Italy

Here's one from Italy.
Build your conspiracy case with his expertise.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

and some of the hijackers are still alive just to gloss

Care to prove that?

one of the things that has always bothered me is this.
how did Bush know he was safe at that school?
shouldnt he have been a target too?
how did he know there were no jets going to slam into that school?
if this was the real deal the secret service would have emptied the school and rushed BUSH out of there.
but no...he sat down and read a story..he knew he was safe.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: bobbypurify


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Why are you always dragging the conversation to the collapse. Lets just forget the collapse for a moment and focus who and why, who planned it. Discuss the planning and execution or are you more inclined to drag people down to your level of pointless conspiracy squabbles.

I learned long ago that people will not believe what they see if they are told enough times that it was something else. After living through the JFK assassination and later seeing the Zapruder film, it completely contradicted what we were told happened and what to believe. And still today, many believe the official story: the back of JFK's skull fell off onto the trunk of the car from a rear head shot. Anyone that has shot anything with a high powered rifle knows better.

But it was Harvey alone with a reverse velocity bullet, the true magic shot. And the three buildings that went straight down together on 9/11 are all easily explained no matter what you saw. We are just asked to "deal with it" and unfortunately most do because the truth really messes with our preferred reality.

Not trying to derail the thread into the buildings, it is a good one. S&F I will just trust my eyes this time though.

originally posted by: autopat51
one of the things that has always bothered me is this.
how did Bush know he was safe at that school?
shouldnt he have been a target too?
how did he know there were no jets going to slam into that school?
if this was the real deal the secret service would have emptied the school and rushed BUSH out of there.
but no...he sat down and read a story..he knew he was safe.

Or slam it into the White House. Would of took out most of her.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Willtell

There are many official and unofficial government people in many countries who have revealed the truth about 911 from Pakistan and Germany for instance

Can you list them or did you read it on another conspiracy site?

Just do some rudimentary research and you’ll learn something


You’ll feel better when you do it yourself since you obviously lack respect for others research.


I was skeptical about 911 conspiratorial theories until one thanksgiving I didn’t go to the aunt’s house to gorge the bird but stayed home and did my own research


And I was shocked at the reality that 911 was obviously, to say the least, an inside job.


Some Americans just can’t see the truth

Their eyes are

WIDE SHUT


When it hits you that this was a inside job there is fear that comes on you for a second

But the truth is as clear as day to those who want to see the truth when they do objective research

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Shadow Herder

and some of the hijackers are still alive just to gloss

Care to prove that?

No proof any of them were on the planes that day. None, aside from the planted passports found in Shanksville and NY that survived the plane crashes while none of the cockpit Voice recorder and Flight data (black boxes) were found.

For the record there are users that are slamming the documentary while publicly admitting they refuse to watch the film in question. Hows that for ignorance....