September 11: The New Pearl Harbor [Video]

a reply to: LaBTop

He has published some well written papers regarding his critique on the NIST report its engineering parts.

But does he believe the buildings could not have come down because of planes and fire?

I would also like to point out that I take issue with the title of this entire thread, as there is not only not one shred of proof that America "allowed Pearl Harbor to happen" but there is also TONS of evidence to the contrary, some of it from Japan, actually. . .

a reply to: samkent

Other countries have come out and said that 9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy.

a reply to: jaffo

The title of the thread has to do with the title of the video. Unless you're joking - you're completely whiffing here.

a reply to: jaffo

also, where is this list of engineers and architects that have inked their name in full support of the OS?

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: samkent

Other countries have come out and said that 9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy.

No, they have not officially done anything of the sort that I am aware. People within other Countries have done so, but no Nation has issued any formal statement from its government "calling 9/11 an inside job" as far as I recall. I do recall Putin stating that he would release damning information to that effect. . . and then he never did anything of the sort. I guess "they" got to Putin too, huh? Hey, here's a little food for thought, it's the World's number one America basher chopping down truthers and their lack of both knowledge of science and knowledge of scientific method and discourse like it was his job: Ladies and gentlemen, Noam Chomsky: www.openculture.com...

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: jaffo

also, where is this list of engineers and architects that have inked their name in full support of the OS?

Unlike the truther movement. . . the number of people who have done so are quite literally too numerous to list. Keep moving those goal posts, lol.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: jaffo

The title of the thread has to do with the title of the video. Unless you're joking - you're completely whiffing here.

Then why include it in the title?

a reply to: jaffo

So there isn't a list of qualified personnel whom inked their name in full support of the OS? But, there is a list of folks who don't. I already explained why preaching about 9/11 truth isn't good for your career, hopefully, you understood that aspect -- now, isn't that odd that a list of engineers and architects is bigger for doubting the OS than for the full support of the OS? I mean, unless you can prove otherwise

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: jaffo

So there isn't a list of qualified personnel whom inked their name in full support of the OS? But, there is a list of folks who don't. I already explained why preaching about 9/11 truth isn't good for your career, hopefully, you understood that aspect -- now, isn't that odd that a list of engineers and architects is bigger for doubting the OS than for the full support of the OS? I mean, unless you can prove otherwise

You really do not understand how the burden of proof works, clearly.

originally posted by: jaffo

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: samkent

Other countries have come out and said that 9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy.

No, they have not officially done anything of the sort that I am aware. People within other Countries have done so, but no Nation has issued any formal statement from its government "calling 9/11 an inside job" as far as I recall. I do recall Putin stating that he would release damning information to that effect. . . and then he never did anything of the sort. I guess "they" got to Putin too, huh? Hey, here's a little food for thought, it's the World's number one America basher chopping down truthers and their lack of both knowledge of science and knowledge of scientific method and discourse like it was his job: Ladies and gentlemen, Noam Chomsky: www.openculture.com...

Well, you got me here with "officially" being the key. I've seen other countries' media provide doubt to the official story. That's what I meant and sorry for not being so concise.

a reply to: jaffo

Clearly, I do. Where is this list? Surely, they'd build a list bigger than the 2300+ signatures conjured by AE911 because you, yourself claimed there were so many more. So, where are they? Where is this huge group that supports the OS? I demand proof of your claim. Sorry for calling you out but you're going to need to provide something or admit fault, like I just did.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: jaffo

Clearly, I do. Where is this list? Surely, they'd build a list bigger than the 2300+ signatures conjured by AE911 because you, yourself claimed there were so many more. So, where are they? Where is this huge group that supports the OS? I demand proof of your claim. Sorry for calling you out but you're going to need to provide something or admit fault, like I just did.

No, I said very plainly that the people who "agree with the official story" are far too numerous to list or mention by name. You are being coy and deliberately obtuse. There is no need for pretty much 99.999% of true educated professionals to sign anything. It's just that simple.

a reply to: jaffo

Well there's a number. 99.9% of true educated professionals support the OS. This is your claim now back it up. Thanks, jaffo! I demand proof or this is an example of you making up facts, like I accused you of earlier

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: jaffo

Well there's a number. 99.9% of true educated professionals support the OS. This is your claim now back it up. Thanks, jaffo! I demand proof or this is an example of you making up facts, like I accused you of earlier

Sorry, once again I will say that is not how proof works. You have theories and ideas. You have nothing even resembling proof. If you want to cling to the fact that I am not going to bother to list every single engineer who agrees with the "official version of events" as some sort of proof that I am failing here, so be it. For the heck of it, you might want to start with an old article from Skeptic Magazine. It gives you great threads to follow. Hopefully you will see that the people perpetuating the "truther" movement are really just a bunch of hucksters trying to sell you something and get ad hits for their pages, lol: www.skeptic.com...

And if you care to do more digging, here is a very deep assessment of pretty much every aspect of and claim of the truther movement. Plenty of threads to follow here as well if you care to do so: www.debunking911.com...

And yet another great resource by a respected professional: www.jod911.com...

And yet another great resource showing you plainly how many lies the "truther" folks are feeding you: www.jod911.com...

My gosh. . . it's almost like this is a for profit enterprise for them. Hmmm. . .

And here's a simple question for you: If "TPTB" could manage to take down the Towers and get ALL of the evidence hidden even while working in plain sight. . . why couldn't they manage to get even one shred of WMD into Iraq to support the war you will surely claim was the goal of 9/11? Surely anyone who can wire all of those buildings and carry out 9/11 with impunity and destory or hide ALL of the evidence would be able to get basic WMD into Iraq so that they would not have to be shown to have been wrong in front of the whole World, right?

a reply to: bobbypurify

So, only wired explosives exist? Would a wireless one require me to believe in magic? Please, explain

Ever tried to use a cell phone inside a large building....??

Dont work too well Why else do you see people pressed up against windows trying to get a signal??

Now you want to use wireless to set off explosives in a precise sequence (which is what you need to imploded a building) .....