Five different stores make sudden announcement, claiming “plumbing” issues

Video from the inside of the Midland, Texas Walmart. People have been posting these videos in our local Facebook sale pages.


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a reply to: Answer

That is the normal process for any Wal-Mart that is not currently open to the public. For instance, when a new Wal-Mart is built and being setup inside, anyone that enters the store still has to sign in, even the employees.

I did get something juicy down the grapevine though. Bentonville has called for ALL market managers to show up for a meeting next week, and not a word was mentioned to them about the subject of this meeting. Essentially the people who oversee operations of dozens to hundreds of Wal-Marts in a particular market are being ordered to Home base for a meeting they will have no idea is about.

originally posted by: midlandghost
Video from the inside of the Midland, Texas Walmart. People have been posting these videos in our local Facebook sale pages.


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What would I search for if I wanted to find the group where those videos are?

Here is another video i found, not exactly current but within the last 4-5 yrs. I have no idea if it pertains to what may or many not be going on with Walmart (amongst other giants closing around the western world, and in which some are just melding into one giant chain rather than many little ones).

Mobile DHS guard towers go up in Walmart parking lots - from 2010--
note: had the wrong video but it is now fixed.

This, along with what Kerry and Fabius said about the so called 'climate chaos' which people were told to expect which would put us at around September 23- ish.

Secretary of State John Kerry welcomed French foreign minister Laurent Fabius to the State Department in Washington on Tuesday to discuss a range of issues, from Iran to Syria to climate change. Or, in the words of the foreign minister, "climate chaos." Kerry and Fabius made a joint appearance before their meeting, and the foreign minister warned that only 500 days remained to avoid "climate chaos"[emphasis added]: Well, I’m very happy to be with John. There is no week without a phone call or a visit between John and myself, and we have on the agenda many items, many issues – Iran, because negotiations are resuming today; the question of Syria, and we shall meet next Thursday in London together; Ukraine as well; and very important issues, issue of climate change, climate chaos. And we have – as I said, we have 500 days to avoid climate chaos. And I know that President Obama and John Kerry himself are committed on this subject and I’m sure that with them, with a lot of other friends, we shall be able to reach success on this very important matter. It is unclear what the foreign minister had in mind with the 500 days. However, France is scheduled to host the "21st Conference of the Parties on Climate Change" in December 2015, about 565 days from now.

No need to panic just intelligent observations from various people concerned with what may or many not be going on. It is human nature to be suspicious after all.

a reply to: stellawayten

You would have to be added in by a friend. They made all the groups private a few weeks ago because the health department was busting people with no permits selling food on there.

1.-Since Jade Helm is a practice run at civil unrest and population control in urban areas could it be that Wal-Mart stores will be used to facilitate mock scenarios of runs on the stores when there is a collapse or major threat. Crisis actors could act as customers in the stores and be handled by the good guys. They could train on handling stores full of looters. I read Jade Helm was a practise of economic collapse and/or martial law type scenarios. What better place to run drills at than in real Wal-Marts?
2.-The gov. does NOT want the public to know how bad the economy really is and the closure of any Wal-Mart is a sure indicator of the economy. They could well have been told to come up with a story to announce your closing and make sure its anything but financial. -(This is doubtful because of the planned re-opening after 6 months)
3.-All these stores are connected in a sinister way at the management level and are too hot to allow any dots being connected and the plug is being pulled on a conspiracy so huge nobody at ATS can figure it out.

A plumbing problem? Sure, if they want to "flush" those who want better wages. Though, is it consistent throughout these stores or just limited, to such as the one in California -"Two dozen arrests after workers protest against Walmart treatment" .

a reply to: DYepes

Union busting. That is the most likely cause. Perhaps the meeting is to break some big news to all the big managers. Maybe new aggressive anti-union policy. Maybe new methods of dealing with union friendly workers. Who knows.

It doesn't matter that these occur in "Right to Work" states. Walmart is being accused of violating federal labor laws and rights, which trumps the states laws. Plus Wal Mart is now an international company.

My money is on labor/union or financial issues. Maybe Wal Mart is hiding some big losses.

I’ve been reading through the thread and I see a lot of logical and fact based comments, and as always I also see a lot of ignorant replies to members with zero connection to what has been described so far. My thought of it all is that it’s not just a single reason behind the closing of 5 Walmart stores, It's rather a mix of reasons.

The Jade Helm 15 exercise with it's slogan "master the human domain” is interesting when evaluating prior/present/post events of the actual exercise.

According to the unclassified (for official use only) Request to Conduct Realistic Training—JADE HELM 15 (RCRT-JH15) posted by the United States Army Special Operations Command, JH “is a challenging eight-week joint military and interagency (IA) unconventional warfare (UW) exercise conducted throughout Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and Colorado.” The seven states and divided regions therein are designated as hostile, permissive, uncertain (leaning hostile) and uncertain (leaning friendly), with, for example, California designated as a largely blue (permissive) region with a small portion of the south in red (hostile) based on insurgent activity in the area. Exercise participants come from across the Department of Defense and U.S. government, and include U.S. Army Special Forces Command (Green Berets), U.S. Navy SEALs, U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command, U.S. Marine Corps Special Operations Command, U.S. Marine Corps Expeditionary Units, 82nd Airborne Division and some interagency partners (likely, but not confirmed: FBI, CIA, DHS and others)

The RCRT states upfront the goals that the exercise hopes to accomplish: to improve the unconventional warfare capability of U.S. special operations forces as part of the national security strategy, and to determine the pros and cons associated with the exercise. The pros, as stated, include a financial deposit into the local economy of upwards of $150,000 (based on the purchase of supplies, food, fuel, and services).

This leaves the cons and the source of some of the controversy surrounding the exercise. In addition to the anticipated increased footprint and possible noise complaints, the exercise planners have also acknowledged that observant residents may notice suspicious behavior on the part of some of the participants, which will be based on the various and complex operational environments that they may find themselves in overseas. Some of the participants will be wearing civilian clothing, driving civilian vehicles, and utilizing weapons loaded with blank ammunition. Local and national law enforcement have been briefed and notified, and in fact, the planners are hoping that locals will notice the odd behavior and report it, with the end goal being teaching points for future improvement.

They also hope and plan that the exercise will provide the opportunity to interact with civilians “to gain their trust and an understanding of the issues,” including written and verbal coordination. Local governments, from mayors to law enforcement to public works are to be briefed and included."

I believe like other members have stated that the closed Walmarts have a connection to the upcoming Jade Helm 15 exercise. Personal involved in the exercise will store essential equipment in the empty stores. Some food will still be left, and that food will be used to feed the involved parties. The biggest concentration of the exercise will be held in Texas and that’s the reason behind 2 closed stores in that state.

It’s extremely ignorant to believe that 5 locations close with zero notice and that the same reason behind the closing for 6 months is due to plumbing problems (no permits filed). Even if the stores were built in the same year (which they aren’t), with the same batch of material and by the same entrepreneurs this would still be illogical. It smells like a legal (unexpected) reason to close the stores. The 6 months time-frame is also extremely ludicrous, because when you have a daily profit like Walmart the initiative to make a hasty reparation (while still partially open) is of highest priority.

Union busting is merely a positive aspect behind renting out the 5 walmart locations to the government. They have closed stores before because of this reason and they even had protests on one of the closed location past november. This notion will most certainly deter new employees from doing this in the near future. By new employees I mean the fresh and legal ones they can hire after their 6 months of ”renovation". Like other members have stated, it’s both lucrative to fire a more experienced employee and hiring a fresh one as well as having a reason not to re-employ potential pro-union employees.

I don’t believe that Walmart are attempting to shutdown low performing stores, and members have stated that some of the locations are far from stagnant. I believe it’s more likely that the locations have been chosen based on the geographical location of the checkpoints of the Jade Helm 15 exercise and maybe also based on the highest concentration of pro-union employees/ highest employment costs of the stores.

Like another member stated before, I also believe that the aspect of closing major stores, which results in less places to buy from, more crowded stores, and higher unemployment during the period of Jade Helm 15 will be beneficial for the kind of exercise they are planning. It’s all about intelligence gathering and to analyze the citizens behavior through as many aspects as possible and to evaluate patterns which appears prior/during/post the exercise. This exercise could in other words already have begun, but on a more subliminal level than what will come during the 8 week exercise.

It’s also quite convenient that the news about ISIS operating in Mexico just 8 miles from Texas, arrived the same day as the sudden closing of 5 Walmart locations in states close to Mexico. I don’t know about you guys, but according to me ISIS is merely a fear mongering pupped and a tool to inflict political change in countries and it wouldn’t surprise me if their ”presence” will be notable in news during months both before and during the actual exercise.

The sources also say that ISIS has "spotters’ located in the East Potrillo Mountains of New Mexico (largely managed by the Bureau of Land Management) to assist with terrorist border crossing operations,”

It wouldn’t surprise me if walmart have some kind of deal with the government that says that they have the right to use their facilities in a case of emergency and that the government have the right to lease property for a reasonable amount during extensive exercises, at locations which both suits Walmart and the planned exercise.

So to summarize:

The closed stores have to do with the planned Jade Helm 15 exercise.
The personal involved will use the facilities during the exercise.
Walmart gets paid for this, as well as being given an excuse to fire both employees with higher salary and pro-union employees.
The exercise interconnects with Walmart because it's storing and housing capability (soldiers) and based on the disruptive aspect closed stores inflicts upon the city and citizens.
We will see more disruptive and fear driven factors before and during the exercise, these could for example be: more news about ISIS in Mexico, disruptive public transportation, power outage, more essential stores closing, engineered or naturally occurring protests.

originally posted by: greencmpI disagree completely.

My question is how do you force businesses to stay in business?

You don't have to. If you as a business owner would rather close your business than see your 2 million income drop to 500k while your employees can go from 12k to 35k each that's perfectly ok. Instead of 500k you now get 0 and someone else will come along and start a business under those union terms.

Unions have been destructive when they've taken too much from a company, and that's the fault of the business owners for letting things get to that situation, but unions have been beneficial far more often than that.

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You do realize that the basic flaw in the argument you have presented is that there are Wal Marts everywhere, so why those 5 specific Wal Marts when as far as I can tell they have no actual relevance to Jade Helm. Just being in the same state doesn't qualify, in part because Ok and FL don't seem to be participating but mostly because of the very wide spread nature of Wal Mart.

Re-itirating the same argument over and over doesn't make it correct.

It would have been cheaper and easier logistically for them to just rent an abandoned store front of which I am certain there are many to choose from in states like Texas, California and the other states actively participating in said exercises. Hollowing out Wal Mart stores on bull# pretenses, forcing thousands of people out of work and losing millions in both revenue and local taxes cannot be justified by Jade Helm in the slightest.

If we cannot look within the store then we need to look to the people who worked there and were fired, if there was something contaminating the area they will find out quickly...we all might. If it was something more subtle, like radiation from imported Japanese products, then none of the employees might know for years. I would suggest they get tested immeadiately for exposure.

A drastic action like this implies drastic circumstances, and Plumbing is a great excuse for why workmen in funny outfits are going in and out of a closed Walmart.

I pass by the Brandon Walmart all the time, just drove into the lot at 12am and the parking lot was completely empty except for a small security car. In the rear, a semi and some activity going on. I'll keep an eyeout if anything changes.

Wouldn`t it make more sense that this was done to make a little spending money for the Koch brothers?

i don't understand what walmart and marshal law training have in common.

But i understand laying off workers and closing a few stores for a couple months to keep some extra spending cash in walmart locations that arn't generating a profit.

During the slump season, rich devious bastards like to lay off workers who are getting paid to much when cutting into profits.

And others just simply close down their shops because they are not generating the numbers they want. So they can open up in different locations.


Maybe the koch bros have their eyes set on a private island. Or need to save for an updated Jet since its 2015 and their 2014 model is going out of style.

And why store essencial equipment in walmart taking away jobs from people in the blatently most obvious of ways when they could just say. Store the equipment inside of trailors? That hitch on the back of flatbeds?

I mean that seems to be the most common thing to do. Unno. Just dosn't make any sense.

Also, Marshal law would be used to save American lives.

Keep in mind that China is a massive country that would take any oppertunity to screw the US over if it could.

Russia is pretty massive as well, Hell the whole muslim empire that spans the globe. Pick an enemy any enemy.

Why would the U.S willingly make it's citizens, It's only fighting force scared for personal depopulation or cattle carting people into fema camps to dominate them or something like its one big north korea.

Looks like north korea is doing pretty fine right now isn't it. They are just the prime gem of population control 101 and everyone will follow suit.

Like if any of this crap even happened. Chinese bombers would be swooping in so fast to cripple a weakened U.S state along with russian submarines and migs raining payload ect.

And don't forget the Muslims, Cuz the muslims don't want just a slice of Death to America. They want the whole thing.

if anything, yall are being paranoid.
Because the chinese gov can't even contain its own people. Russia is bribing anyone to become a russian citizen and to learn russian, as well as invading russian speaking nations just to expand its military might.

I think alot of these anti-american conspiracy bs is forged by well... Anti-Americans. That want to see America crumble so they can take up the helm as the worlds leading super power.

Pick any of the enemies i listed and they would be dying for that chance. Hell mexico would love to invade the US if it wasn't already occupied by cartels.

This coming from a Canadian.

FYI, America is not the problem of the world. Greed and corperatism is. Bank cartels dominating and destabelizing nations are also a problem. Does the fed control the whole world? No. If the Fed is the lumintity. Their control only goes as far as the federal reserve note goes.

Which is basically waging a war for its dominance for a one world currency.

But will it? The Yen is pretty damn strong and has no connection ties with the Fed. Even the Euro. The Federal reserve of america is pretty much scared to death of losing it's grips over suckling from the american people leeching all precious metals it can and storing them in hidden bunkers around the globe.

Use common reason and common sense. The American people are being robbed. By corperations over seas ( Backed by walmart as a front for an american company when in fact all the products are Chinese)

And its wealth, squandered by a privately owned bank that wants to seize control over the american people's government so they can funnel all the resources to themselves so when America finally does go belly up, they will belly up and leave along with said america, Running away with truck loads of gold and gems.

Greed has a funny effect on people. Even for a rock.
Heres a good example of such greed. How many times have this stone been stolen?

How about 9/11 and the gold reserve under it that belonged to U.S.A at one point?
I mean if the federal reserve wasn't robbing america, why all the cash for gold commercials? lol

The last thing the fed wants is for america to fall into chaos. Cuz the moment that happens. It's gold hoarding ventures are halted.

Enjoy this video about the 400 million dollar emerald.

originally posted by: DYepes
I did get something juicy down the grapevine though. Bentonville has called for ALL market managers to show up for a meeting next week, and not a word was mentioned to them about the subject of this meeting. Essentially the people who oversee operations of dozens to hundreds of Wal-Marts in a particular market are being ordered to Home base for a meeting they will have no idea is about.

If true, this lends weight to my notion that the company is in financial problems or has forecast a decline in profits and is planning to scale back operations. They're probably going to be told that the company is "restructuring" and some of them will be leaving in the next 12 months.

Wal-Mart is struggling financially

It was already seeing a decline, and now there are protests across the US demanding higher wages this is only going to get worse. The corporation over-reached and opened far too many locations far too quickly, as often happens with corporations this large. The business model requires a funnel effect to take profits out of hundreds of communities around the country, but this funnel becomes more unstable and more exposed to minor fluctuations as it continues to spend on structure to increase that funnel. One law change, one quarter of lower sales, one cultural shift, one PR disaster, and the corporation has no choice but to start scaling back operations in response.

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What others here are conveniently ignoring is that there are hundreds of Walmart locations in these states alone.

There were more than 4 thousand across the US in 2010, and they haven't stopped spreading.

This depressing animated map shows Walmart taking over America

It's more likely that there is a genuine plumbing problem at these stores, or that the company is planning to scale back operations in these states. As I pointed out in my last post and the link within, the company has been struggling financially and it's reasonable to assume that they will soon be forced to comply with higher minimum wage requirements - which affects their US suppliers as well as them as a corporation, increasing the amount they need to pay for stock, lowering profits, ultimately forcing them to scale back operations.

originally posted by: juiellineau
1.-Since Jade Helm is a practice run at civil unrest and population control in urban areas could it be that Wal-Mart stores will be used to facilitate mock scenarios of runs on the stores when there is a collapse or major threat.

Right, because it makes sense for a private corporation to close several large stores for several months, putting hundreds of employees out of work, causing massive potential PR problems and falling sales across the business, causing potential losses into the millions of $'s, when the same could be achieved by those on the exercise using any of the many hundreds of already vacant locations over a single weekend.

UPDATE: I was contacted by someone at UFCW, Making Change At Walmart. They point out that the Pico Rivera Walmart workers (that's the California Walmart that closed suddenly due to "plumbing issues") has been one of the core active OUR Walmart stores in the country. It is also the site of the first Walmart strikes, back in 2012.

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And another tip-off as to what is really going on is that Walmart is saying all the laid off employees will have to REAPPLY if and when the stores reopen. In other words, one day you have a job, next day there are "plumbing problems" and you are basically fired. Good old Sam Walton American values and integrity.

Fire everyone and you're not in violation of the National Labor Relations Act. Then you have more flexibility in choosing who you are going to re-hire.

And, of course, all the articles about this rush to mention the whacked conspiracy theories such as the detention camps. Speculation about the possible union busting going on gets second billing if mentioned at all.

Once again, "conspiracy theorists" helping to make those who question the official narrative look like lunatics.