The ‘BASALT FLOOR’ Giza Plateau Smoking Gun Evidence of LOST ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY

originally posted by: KnightLight

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: Woodcarver

You clearly didn't read the link i provided

v cuts that take 3 to 5 hours per centimeter??

300 to 500 hours to cut a meter sized block, one cut..

Losing 40 cm of copper, at the least, and up to 2.5 meters of copper if dry sand instead of wet.

You'd have to make at least one saw per cut, and probably more than that.

Link to google images of prehistoric carved basalt: click

Look ma, no power tools.

Harte

originally posted by: KnightLight

originally posted by: Painterz
a reply to: KnightLight



It's been proven via experimental archaeology.

Can you show me?
And I really am asking.

Denys Stocks can show you. Link

Harte

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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Harte

Im afraid those are not good examples at all of the same thing. The needles are easily made with heat and forms, or shaping in a multitude of ways. The comb is bone and flint shatter easily with a harder stone. How does that contribute anything in the context presented.

(Why can't people have some decorum and have a discussion any more? Everyone has to act like they are somehow the ultimate arbiters of intelligence and everyone else must be stupid if they entertain novel ideas.)

Because the assertion that "this can't be done with copper" presupposes only things that can be made with copper tools are acceptable.

Harte

originally posted by: Woodcarver

Def a saw. Prob not copper. Quartz dust would be the most likely cutting agent.

The sands of the Sahara Desert, in other words.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

And if you think a small rounded basalt axe head is on par with a monolithic block with polished surface and 90* cut marks. . Your blind as a bat.

originally posted by: Signals
a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

Very interesting point....

Why haven't they done this?

That the blades of the saws were of bronze, we know from the green staining on the sides of saw cuts, and on grains of sand left in a saw cut.

Read more: www.touregypt.net...

Maybe they have.

Harte

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Woodcarver

The only thing completely obvious in this mystery is that archeaology
has fudged an explanation that doesn't stand up. And that is tantamount
to it's credibility IMO.

Why do you beleve this?

The AEs left pictures of them using slabbing saws.

Stock's experiments showed a rate of better than three to one for cut depth to saw loss.

What exactly about that means it's not possible?

Harte

a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

originally posted by: Triton1128
a reply to: Harte

And if you think a small rounded basalt axe head is on par with a monolithic block with polished surface and 90* cut marks. . Your blind as a bat.

And you think basalt can't be worked with copper?

What did they use to make those axes and hammers? Lathes?

No. Stone and sand.

Harte

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

I don't type well and "aliens" is easier to type than the equally ridiculous "Ancient Lost Technology!!!"

Harte

a reply to: Harte

What exactly about that means it's not possible?

Never said it wasn't possible. And in terms of ages it is of course
is possible. The God of the Bible is also quite possible. If you want
to infer what's possible? Anything is possible. But what man
endeavors must also be practicle. And this is a task of monumental
proportions, that I doubt we could acheive with ease even today.
Who ever built that great pyramid at Giza, did it with ease and knew
it would be finished. You need to keep that clearly in mind because,
it's a big part of what went on to achieve such an outlandish thought,
in the first place.

Puma Punku is another great example : The below stones are Diorite. Toughness 2.1 Just below Fresh Basalt. This site, NOT to be confused with tiahuanaco, which was settled adjacent to Puma Punku around 1000 BC.

Puma Punku is dated to be 14,000 years old.

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Diorite Puma Punku design

So mystery solved. Apparently they had CAD and diamond tipped drill bits and saws well before the pyramids

Fun Fact : Puma Punku is located at an altitude of 12,800 feet, which means it is located above the natural tree line, this means NO trees grew in that area which means that no trees were cut down in order to use wooden rollers, the question is how did they transport the stones? The closest quarries were over 60 miles away.

One of the most important archaeological artifacts ever discovered in Tiahuanaco or Puma Punku is the famous Fuente Magna Bowl.

Fuente Magna Bowl

Which has, what looks like, Sumerian Sand-script on it. Sand script used 12,000 years ago, 12,566 km away..

a reply to: Harte

Dont be coy, I'm quite positive you understand by taking a larger stone and smashing a smaller stone of the same type you can "shape" it. Something as primitive as a hammer head can be fashioned this way with little effort.

I think the focal point of this discussion which you're tip toeing around is "saw marks" and "cuts" made with the precision of today's standard.

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

Because by him stating something silly and stupid. He gets all the lurkers who think like him to star his comment. Also, he side tracks the topic at hand. Its a 2 for 1 and the sole reason he dwells here

originally posted by: Triton1128

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

Because by him stating something silly and stupid. He gets all the lurkers who think like him to star his comment. Also, he side tracks the topic at hand. Its a 2 for 1 and the sole reason he dwells here

As opposed to breathlessly exclaiming a deep and abiding faith in anything at all that opposes opinions espoused by archaeologists that are in a better position to know these things?

I stated why I said what I said. I don't see an answer to my question concerning exactly why anyone would think it impossible to saw basalt or granite with slabbing saws, if a particular type of shape required it.

95% or more of the Great Pyramid is limestone which can be easily, but didn't need to be, sawn. The Granite in the Great Pyramid wasn't sawn either.

Yet you and others pretend that meter-long saw cuts were required.

Show me one.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Triton1128

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

Because by him stating something silly and stupid. He gets all the lurkers who think like him to star his comment. Also, he side tracks the topic at hand. Its a 2 for 1 and the sole reason he dwells here

As opposed to breathlessly exclaiming a deep and abiding faith in anything at all that opposes opinions espoused by archaeologists that are in a better position to know these things?

I stated why I said what I said. I don't see an answer to my question concerning exactly why anyone would think it impossible to saw basalt or granite with slabbing saws, if a particular type of shape required it.

95% or more of the Great Pyramid is limestone which can be easily, but didn't need to be, sawn. The Granite in the Great Pyramid wasn't sawn either.

Yet you and others pretend that meter-long saw cuts were required.

Show me one.

Harte

A quick and simple google search that you seem quite proficient at supplied me with this :

Halted saw cut

and I won't even go here.. not yet. We'll save THIS debate for another day ~

Baalbek

originally posted by: Triton1128

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Triton1128

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

Because by him stating something silly and stupid. He gets all the lurkers who think like him to star his comment. Also, he side tracks the topic at hand. Its a 2 for 1 and the sole reason he dwells here

As opposed to breathlessly exclaiming a deep and abiding faith in anything at all that opposes opinions espoused by archaeologists that are in a better position to know these things?

I stated why I said what I said. I don't see an answer to my question concerning exactly why anyone would think it impossible to saw basalt or granite with slabbing saws, if a particular type of shape required it.

95% or more of the Great Pyramid is limestone which can be easily, but didn't need to be, sawn. The Granite in the Great Pyramid wasn't sawn either.

Yet you and others pretend that meter-long saw cuts were required.

Show me one.

Harte

A quick and simple google search that you seem quite proficient at supplied me with this :

Halted saw cut

and I won't even go here.. not yet. We'll save THIS debate for another day ~

Of course you won't "go there."

There is no "there" to go to, unless you want to claim the small cut in your pic is a meter deep and that multiples of such meter-deep cuts were necessary.

Baalbek stones weren't sawn either.

Harte

DP

a reply to: Harte
Did you throw the pics of the hunting knife and revolver in there to see if we were awake.... or what?

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Triton1128

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Triton1128

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: Harte

"If copper chisels can't be used to make these things, then - ALIENS!!!"

Who said anything about aliens? You assume too much, my friend. The title refers to lost ANCIENT technology.

Because by him stating something silly and stupid. He gets all the lurkers who think like him to star his comment. Also, he side tracks the topic at hand. Its a 2 for 1 and the sole reason he dwells here

As opposed to breathlessly exclaiming a deep and abiding faith in anything at all that opposes opinions espoused by archaeologists that are in a better position to know these things?

I stated why I said what I said. I don't see an answer to my question concerning exactly why anyone would think it impossible to saw basalt or granite with slabbing saws, if a particular type of shape required it.

95% or more of the Great Pyramid is limestone which can be easily, but didn't need to be, sawn. The Granite in the Great Pyramid wasn't sawn either.

Yet you and others pretend that meter-long saw cuts were required.

Show me one.

Harte

A quick and simple google search that you seem quite proficient at supplied me with this :

Halted saw cut

and I won't even go here.. not yet. We'll save THIS debate for another day ~

Of course you won't "go there."

There is no "there" to go to, unless you want to claim the small cut in your pic is a meter deep and that multiples of such meter-deep cuts were necessary.

Baalbek stones weren't sawn either.

Harte

You should write a book. Its apparent you have the answers to everything