The ‘BASALT FLOOR’ Giza Plateau Smoking Gun Evidence of LOST ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I don't get why they'd carve images of stonemasons using stonemasons' tools but not carve images of alien visitors helping them?!

Major failure in logic there

a reply to: KnightLight

plenty of time to master, so show me the experiment that makes sense then?

Nah, let us just stick to the power tools, that makes perfect sense

originally posted by: Mianeye


Nah, let us just stick to the power tools, that makes perfect sense

What? No let's see the experiment that comes close to being viable..
I'm actually looking for an answer..
I never said anything about power tools

The link you provided is Strong evidence that the method proposed would not work.

a reply to: KnightLight

I just gave you an experiment that makes sense when mastered, they even tell you how to avoid V cuts..

Just because it doesn't make sense to you, doesn't mean i should use my Sunday convincing you with more experiments.

a reply to: Mianeye

I already pointed out that it's not viable or anywhere close to it..
They said when mastered it could be 150 hours, to 250 hours to cut one meter.. One cut.. This would eat through a minimum of around half a meter of copper.. So the saw they used would be gone..

It makes no sense.

And by all means enjoy your sunday.
I'm interested in a discussion, not an answer.
And in case you are wondering I'm not looking for anything strange as the answer.

a reply to: KnightLight



It's been proven via experimental archaeology.

The thing that makes no sense is the assertion that it makes no sense that the Egyptians could have used massively labour intensive techniques.

We know the Egyptians mobilised massive workforces. This was the whole trick of the fertile Nile Valley, lots of food = lots of spare workforce.

Throw a few million man hours at a piece of rock, and you can turn it into any shape you want. Even with primitive tools.

a reply to: KnightLight

Nvm...

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: KnightLight

So we are back at the power tools...Ok, you win

No you are jumping back and forth on conclusions..
I'm not.

originally posted by: Painterz
a reply to: KnightLight



It's been proven via experimental archaeology.

Can you show me?
And I really am asking.

I'm getting the sense snarky people are reading my words as snarky, but that is a mirror on how they think, and not the words I'm writing..

I'm using my time to talk and learn.. So let's get to it.

a reply to: KnightLight

But, you are clearly trying to get an answer from me, instead of suggesting something else.

I gave my answer, that's it, i see it as the best answer so far, if you don't like it, i can do no more.

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: KnightLight

But, you are clearly trying to get an answer from me, instead of suggesting something else.

I gave my answer, that's it, i see it as the best answer so far, if you don't like it, i can do no more.

No one has said it was power tools or aliens. At least read your own sources. That saw technique would not work based on the scientist in charge of that experiment.

a reply to: Mianeye

I am not looking for a conclusion.. I'm looking for movement.. discussion..

You are not used to people who don't jump to one side or another. I'm not picking a team here. I can be critical of things I think are right. I can support ideas I think are wrong. I am exploring scientifically at the moment.

And so far we are not even close to something viable. What you showed me made it pretty clear you would have to make more saws of that type than the stone blocks themselves. It would never work.

Don't be so argumentative, we are talking here. I'm not trying to prove anything.

a reply to: Woodcarver

Ahem..From OP. and what is your suggestion as you don't believe in the copper saw theory ?

In this post I will present evidence of Lost Ancient High Technology on the Giza Plateau which shows beyond all REASONABLE doubt that machine tools were used in the construction of this Basalt Floor.

a reply to: KnightLight

And the same question to you, what is your suggestion to how it's done, as you don't believe in the copper saw theory ?

a reply to: Harte

Im afraid those are not good examples at all of the same thing. The needles are easily made with heat and forms, or shaping in a multitude of ways. The comb is bone and flint shatter easily with a harder stone. How does that contribute anything in the context presented.

(Why can't people have some decorum and have a discussion any more? Everyone has to act like they are somehow the ultimate arbiters of intelligence and everyone else must be stupid if they entertain novel ideas.)

a reply to: JamesTB

by the way those pictures are striking. And as an exercise I think it's cool to just stare at pictures.. Let the data sink into your head, not in words.. Just take it in.. The longer you look the more your mind sees. Then you can do imagination experiments or thought experiments.

Imagine building the pyramid.

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: KnightLight

And the same question to you, what is your suggestion to how it's done, as you don't believe in the copper saw theory ?

I didn't say I didn't believe it. As I said earlier I attack ideas I do believe in. But so far when I attacked that experiment with my mind and used their numbers.. It comes out with ERROR this does not work. I'm in open mind mode.. There could be other ways that something similar could work, so when you said they (the Egyptians) could have perfected it over time... I wanted you to show me better experiments perfected over time that actually get somewhat close to beign viable..

It's not enough to go see I made a cut it took a year but I can see how someone else given enough knowledge could do it in a day..

Know what I mean??

I don't want a conclusion. Life is my school. I'm learning.

I havn't seen enough evidence to think I know how the pyramids were built. Egyptologists use the logic well this thing cuts rock we know the egyptians did cut rock, and we know the pyramid is there, so that's the most likely thing that happened..

For me I don't come in like that.. I need it to all make sense, not in pieces. And so far I can't see it yet. It's been a longtime interest of mine.
My job is to keep machines running.. Everyday I know more and more how they work.. This is how I am. Always filling in more gaps. But with the pyramids the gaps are too big to assume they can be filled. So I don't assume.. I keep looking.

This is a little out there, but they may have used some iron, from a meteor source.
If they had a large enough source of it, they could have used it to fashion some tools from it.
The eskimoes had access to a large iron meteorite boulder which they would chip off pieces of iron
to use as tools, at least until the Americans came and took it for study.

So its not impossible that they may have come across an iron meteorite at some point.

Tools of the gods indeed.

a reply to: JamesTB

The evidence looks convincing enough for an in depth scientific investigation. In places where stones show signs of intense work, I suggest that there the soil in the immediate area be analyzed for traces of any differences that are not found in more common soil in the area. Whether that would be typical machine tool residue of cut dust with traces of the cutting tool among it or, a more sophisticated method such as a laser, plasma or whatever cutter that altered the physical content of the removed material. If only copper residue would be found, and there should be a lot of it if that was the method used, should be readily identifiable. Regardless, the puzzle could be solve...if it was wanted to be solved.

But, then, we still have the unsolved problem of UFOs that remain unsolved because that puzzle still remains best left subject to speculation as the human species very slowly advances in its understanding that it is not so great in the cosmos.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: tothetenthpower

I don't get why they'd carve images of stonemasons using stonemasons' tools but not carve images of alien visitors helping them?!

Major failure in logic there

I don't think "aliens" did the work. Pretty sure it was humans. All the evidence points to humans. What we are discussing is their techniques and the materials they employed to do these things.

There are many inconsistencies in what is taught and generally accepted as true. Even though many of these things are known by many to be untrue. I'm speaking strictly in the academic sense. We know that many of the things we still teach as fact are untrue. There is a curve from field work to the class room. Everyday, something written in a text book is proven wrong. Not that i am a science denier. I simply accept that science is a progressive process, always expanding our understanding of everything.