Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
People really need to stop freaking out about the LHC. Particles from the Sun collide with our atmosphere with much greater force than what the LHC can achieve on a normal basis. The LHC tries to replicate these collisions in a laboratory setting so they can actually be studied.

These experiments go far beyond that.

Also it has been suggested that gravity may leak between universes and that is why gravity is a weak force. If so when they connect with a PARALLEL UNIVERSE it would seem to me it could affect our own gravity also, possible making it weaker as we leak more. Just a thought!

a reply to: roth1

This is the beginning phases of answers we may see in this kind of science. That is to say there aren't any definitive answers on this specific topic, lots of widely renowned theories, but just that, theories. I just find it entertaining that you have an emotional response to people looking for answers and that were willing to admit we don't know yet, hence the experiments. The way you react to this thread is how I'd expect someone fighting science, first groups that come to mind are the religious ones, on the far end of the spectrum as most of them will humor science as well. or I could be wrong. Maybe I should heed your advice and declare all exploratory science stupid, after all if we find out that the earth isn't flat than we will have to throw away all our maps.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

"if we find out that the earth isn't flat" Great, now I have to burn my globe.

originally posted by: Eunuchorn
I should probably stop giving Roth stars, I think it's just encouraging him. Anyone know why he keeps bringing religion up?

If you posted up was down and down was up,
I'd give you a star. Nearly everything you
post makes me smile, and a smile is
worth a star!

Keep up the indeterminate work!

Kev

a reply to: Arbitrageur
They were colliding protons. The do however study the photon collisions caused by the energy released.

originally posted by: here4this
a reply to: Arbitrageur
They were colliding protons. The do however study the photon collisions caused by the energy released.

This study, however, that's going on now, is really about the affect that neutrinos have, and our ability to track them ad their affect. But interestingly, no one is going to talk about that, straight out.

A gravity leak? Sure it might sound fun at first, jumping higher and whatnot, but if they don't plug up that leak, we could leak out too much gravity to the other universe and end up losing the gravity our planet needs to keep the moon in orbit, or the gravity needed to keep our planet held together!

I'm sure that's probably not how it works lol... the thing I'm worried about is a replication of the scene from Ghostbusters where all the demons from Hell are released upon Earth. It's moments like these where I hope there are some super wise aliens watching over us to swat our hand when we reach for the hot stove...

a reply to: Eunuchorn

No way dude! I want to see if he can come up with a better insult than "fishing rod", that was heinous.

originally posted by: here4this
This is news. This would prove the current theoretical physics views on the multiverse and the nature of gravity . As far as mini black holes go , they have already created many . However , they are so tiny and have such a short life span they are basically unable to study them as acutely as they would like. The LHC produces the relative same amount of energy that a mosquito in flight produces in minutes . Far short of the energy needed to create something that would pose a danger such as a black hole or an opening into another universe . However , good heads up.

Sounds like they might have it covered.

The LHC has already been trying to detect mini black holes, but has come up empty-handed. This is what would be expected if there are only four dimensions, since the energy required to produce black holes in four dimensions would be much larger (1019 GeV) than the energy that can be achieved at the LHC (14 TeV).
However, if extra dimensions do exist, it is thought that they would lower the energy required to produce black holes to levels that that the LHC can achieve. As Faizal explained, this happens because the gravity in our universe may somehow flow into the extra dimensions. As the LHC has so far not detected mini black holes, it seems that extra dimensions do not exist, at least not at the energy scale that was tested. By extension, the results do not support string theory or parallel universes, either.

....They have used the new theory of gravity's rainbow to account for this modification of the geometry of space and time near the Planck scale, where the mini black holes are predicted to exist.

Using gravity's rainbow, the scientists found that a little bit more energy is required to produce mini black holes at the LHC than previously thought. So far, the LHC has searched for mini black holes at energy levels below 5.3 TeV. According to gravity's rainbow, this energy is too low. Instead, the model predicts that black holes may form at energy levels of at least 9.5 TeV in six dimensions and 11.9 TeV in 10 dimensions. Since the LHC is designed to reach 14 TeV in future runs, these predicted energy requirements for black hole production should be accessible.

If mini black holes are detected at the LHC, then it would arguably support several ideas: parallel universes, extra dimensions, string theory, and gravity's rainbow—with these last two having implications for a theory of quantum gravity. Most obviously, a positive result would support the existence of mini black holes themselves.

a reply to: Kandinsky

What could possibly happen, I will say as someone asked earlier?
Suppose that next door universe harbors an angry bunch of giants with a collider xxxtimes our then puny one?
Or suppose they are microbe size and one little black hole from us piercing their kingdom simply wipes out the whole midget universe?

originally posted by: eastbosbud
If the do create a BLACK HOLE they need to do it over FUKUSHIMA... so it can suck up the 600,000 pounds of radioactive fuel that they cant seem to locate for the past 4 years.

That would be the human thing to do, we don't know what's at the other side but let's throw all our sh1t in it!

Que other side of black hole, Utopia, with a large pile of the most polluting things we have created!!

a reply to: Forensick

And then we will get a note saying "quit throwing your garbage in our universe" a la The Simpsons.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Just what the hell are they playing at over in Switzerland? Attempting to create mini black holes?

I know right!? I heard about this 'goal' a couple years ago, of creating mini black holes. WTH? So our gravity's maybe leaking... so they're gonna punch some little holes and let more of it out???

Stephen Hawking spoke out against this back when. (Sorry if that's already been mentioned... I'm late to the party and only read the OP's post so far. My bad.

On a lighter note (in order to laugh to keep from crying as they say) can somebody tell them if they DO contact an alternate universe, can they please ask if people there are freaking out b/c Berenstain Bears is spelled BerenstEin Bears, because we want our books back.

I am finding something sinister in this.. it has been going on longer than christianity has existed.. ALIENS from parallel universe throwing their waste to us .. and much more.. now it´s our turn throw something back ?

originally posted by: Telos
Is at least this Walter Bishop sane??? (Fringe anyone?)

I think all high level physicists have a little "Walter" in them!

originally posted by: here4this
a reply to: Arbitrageur
They were colliding protons. The do however study the photon collisions caused by the energy released.

Interesting site with a full list of dangers.
cerntruth.wordpress.com...

originally posted by: roth1
Parallel universe how stupid. Only God believers would fall for something so stupid. Living inn the fantasy world they do. Your parallel universe in in your dreams.

.....and in the parallel universe, the other Roth 1 says the exact same thing. Some things never change.

originally posted by: Answer
I think the article is a bit sensationalist... like most are when reporting on the Large Hardon Collider.

This is what happens when you have a lot of people who can't be bothered to actually learn about a subject and instead fixate on keywords that they recognize.

It's like reading a tabloid headline and then ranting about the completely inaccurate story, because the reader can't be bothered to think too hard or check information for themselves.

I'll place more trust in the thousands of incredible scientists and physicists who've dedicated their entire careers to their research, rather than troglodytes on the Internet.

If we lived by the fears of the ignorant we would stagnate into extinction.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

maybe this will confirm if time travel is a 'thing' ?? will technical problems halt progress? my guess is no, if the greatest minds on the the planet are prepared to go ahead with this, i'm inclined to side with them, maybe just maybe these pioneers of science will push the boundries and do what humanity has always done on its endless quest for knowledge.

a reply to: new_here

On a lighter note (in order to laugh to keep from crying as they say) can somebody tell them if they DO contact an alternate universe, can they please ask if people there are freaking out b/c Berenstain Bears is spelled BerenstEin Bears, because we want our books back.

I wonder how many ATS'ers got this reference?



Epic, by the way.