Putin's New "Protocols"

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Meduzi

I actually "LOL"d

Thank you.

Oo look here!

Not as much as I laughed at your attempt to prove something you couldn't.

And I don't hate...unless you try and take my freedom which is far from happening anytime soon.

You've just made two more mistakes.

Mistake no.1 Assuming that I'm here to prove anything to strangers in the "internets"

Mistake No.2 Trying to sound like Charlton Heston

Your whole frigging country was stolen. I have a tree outside my house, older than the US.

HUMPH...

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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

HEy! since were posting absurd list here is one I made parodying HAlo/shooter game and selfies. just PUTIN it out there.

How dare you call yourself "The King of Noobs". You have over two thousand posts! I have a more valid claim to that title.

originally posted by: Meduzi

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

HEy! since were posting absurd list here is one I made parodying HAlo/shooter game and selfies. just PUTIN it out there.

How dare you call yourself "The King of Noobs". You have over two thousand posts! I have a more valid claim to that title.

Sorry but I had the name first. I had that since post numbah 1. But here is where the meaning to it is. Although I still have alot of post i STILL act like i did the first day I came here. I been using that title since 92. Its not just a title.. its my way of life lol!! Here I dub you the DUKE of NOOBS. GO into your settings or ask a mod to title it for you.

back on topic. Putin is always enacting new laws and orders. Its the job of a leader i guess.

a reply to: yuppa

Unfortunately I'm having to use the title area as a personal message system!

Still though DUKE of NOOBS has a nice sound to it. I can at least get a t-shirt done.

Back to Putin. Whether people like it or not outside of Russia, within, most people are quite happy with him. Politically, he's a success. The faked-anxieties of a few russophobes elsewhere in the world, is about as significant as too much cheese on a pizza.

a reply to: Meduzi

If you felt that I am "one of those people" then surely you wouldn't have needed to have asked.

At the risk of further thread drift, I need to ask because of the little game you have been playing. Please don't deny it, it is painfully obvious: you attack a post in such a way that you appear to hold the contrary opinion. When someone attempts to refute the position you seem to have taken, you ask, rhetorically, where you have ever actually stated that opinion. This allows you to argue against positions you disagree with without having the inconvenience of actually defending your own opinion.

You have seemed to imply that Putin's support of far right, ultra-nationalist and neo-Nazi organizations is justified because the United States has done the same. I have condemned the United States for having done so, just as I now condemn Russia for doing so:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Would it be too much trouble for you to take a definitive stand? Is support for Fascist and Nazi organizations excusable in the name of expediency or not?

a reply to: DJW001

You have seemed to imply that Putin's support of far right, ultra-nationalist and neo-Nazi organizations is justified because the United States has done the same. I have condemned the United States for having done so,...

...where ?

All I have seen coming from you is trying to make the impression about Russia/Putin being one thing after another...

...but I have yet to see anything else coming from you, than you trying to pull peoples attentions away from those facts by constantly pointing towards make believe crap...

...so where are those threads/posts of you condemning it ?

Do you really think a very minimalistic reference is making you look objectively when the rest has been nothing more as making hyperboles about Putin/Russia and downplaying the other side on a continuous base?

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

...where ?

On the link I provided, for starters:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

All I have seen coming from you is trying to make the impression about Russia/Putin being one thing after another...

Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that Russian propaganda threads are the only threads here you visit.

...but I have yet to see anything else coming from you, than you trying to pull peoples attentions away from those facts by constantly pointing towards make believe crap...

And all I ever see from you are lies from Fascist websites and blogs.

...so where are those threads/posts of you condemning it ?

Please, summon up all your willpower and click on this link:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Do you really think a very minimalistic reference is making you look objectively when the rest has been nothing more as making hyperboles about Putin/Russia and downplaying the other side on a continuous base?

And do you really think than anyone believes that you are anything but a Fascist puppet? The websites and blogs you publicized have been thoroughly exposed here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

(As well as in this very thread.)

a reply to: DJW001

And all I ever see from you are lies from Fascist websites and blogs.

Still trying to make the impression about fascist stuff and attacking blogs...

My post here sums it all up.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

That`s the strategy which is being played out all the time...

Label alternative views and commentators as being "conspiracy theorists," pro-Russians, Putinistas, Russian paid shills,etc.

Question only will be, are you so stupid to let yourself get fooled by such an obvious technique...RT themselves and Fair.org do a good job in explaining it all...

Ex-RT anchor tells Congress how Putin’s media works

Reporting on Russia’s Troll Army, Western Media Forget West’s Much Bigger, Sophisticated Troll Army

So all you have to do is keep watching out for the people who keep attacking alternative media (RT, bloggers, etc.) and who accuse people over and over again as being paid by Russia to know who you`re dealing with.

The problem is, the sources you keep citing are not merely "alternative," they are stridently Fascist. FortRuss is the organ of a political organization bent on conquering the entire Eurasian landmass in the name of the Orthodox Church and Mother Russia:



openrevolt.info...

You are perfectly welcome to espouse these views, but please don't pretend not to hold them.

a reply to: DJW001

I don`t hold them, the only thing is see is, FortRuss is having in some cases good news which isn`t being told by Western media...

I also have linked to neo-liberal mouthpieces, does that make me holding neo-liberal views too?

Let`s face it, you don`t do anything else as making a smear campaign against anyone who doesn`t tow the pro-American line, be it ATS members, blogs or Putin, it`s all the same to you !

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

I don`t hold them, the only thing is see is, FortRuss is having in some cases good news which isn`t being told by Western media...

I also have linked to neo-liberal mouthpieces, does that make me holding neo-liberal views too?

The problem is your "good news" happens not to be true most of the time! Given that FortRuss has a track record of lying, why do you bother to read it, unless you agree with its political positions?

a reply to: DJW001

I know, everything is a lie when it doesn`t follow the neo-liberal line being presented by the MSM.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: DJW001

I know, everything is a lie when it doesn`t follow the neo-liberal line being presented by the MSM.

No: any claim that cannot be verified by at least two independent sources is suspect; any claim that can be falsified by at least to independent sources is a fabrication. You swallow Russian fabrications hook, line and sinker. FortRuss, openrevolt, RT and other such outlets are first and foremost tasked to provide propaganda to support Russian imperialism. Read them at your own risk.

a reply to: DJW001

Read them at your own risk.

I will, just as with the propaganda on the other side.

originally posted by: Meduzi
a reply to: yuppa

Unfortunately I'm having to use the title area as a personal message system!

Still though DUKE of NOOBS has a nice sound to it. I can at least get a t-shirt done.

Back to Putin. Whether people like it or not outside of Russia, within, most people are quite happy with him. Politically, he's a success. The faked-anxieties of a few russophobes elsewhere in the world, is about as significant as too much cheese on a pizza.

Thats the spirit. And yeah a T=shirt would be a good idea. you could market it. Im sure putin is a nice guy outside his office same as Obama but its the stuff he does in office that worries people.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Meduzi
a reply to: yuppa

Unfortunately I'm having to use the title area as a personal message system!

Still though DUKE of NOOBS has a nice sound to it. I can at least get a t-shirt done.

Back to Putin. Whether people like it or not outside of Russia, within, most people are quite happy with him. Politically, he's a success. The faked-anxieties of a few russophobes elsewhere in the world, is about as significant as too much cheese on a pizza.

Thats the spirit. And yeah a T=shirt would be a good idea. you could market it. Im sure putin is a nice guy outside his office same as Obama but its the stuff he does in office that worries people.

Russians have to like him if they don't they end up in jail or shot in front of the Kremlin.

a reply to: dragonridr

You should be more nervous walking through New York on a dark night, than walking through the streets of Moscow.

a reply to: DJW001

You're beginning to sound like a school teacher.

Again, if everything is so "painfully obvious", then why are you still asking questions?

It's great, here. Just be being here, and disagreeing for a while, one can have all sorts of nasties attributed to one's self.

It's a new reality of modern life, silent guilt, especially in the US, thanks to the Supreme Court.

originally posted by: Meduzi
a reply to: dragonridr

You should be more nervous walking through New York on a dark night, than walking through the streets of Moscow.

Much rather take my chances in New York than speak out against Putin it's safer. Obviously never been there have you?? See Putin arrests little girls throws them in prison because they dared question him. However th e were lucky puss him off to bad and aparently he has you shot on thee streets of Moscow. It just doesn't pay to o pose Putin he is in control and not scared to use his power to protect himself.He's Become nothing more than a 2 bit dictator who dreams of being Stalin.

Here we go again. Something is "obvious" again.

Seriously, Russian politics, stinks, but so does everyone elses. This whole Putin stuff is just comical compared to real issues in the world. Americans manage to shoot 100,000 of themselves a year, but so many just won't give up their guns.

I see that today one of your drones just killed some hostages. You have prisons full of people not even charged with a crime. You kill 80 citizens for every terrorist...

The US invaded Iraq and had its leader killed.

Put itself and the West into a financial crisis.

And to top it off, even created a monster going by the name of Islamic State.

But that Putin guy....