Atheist, Politics and God

a reply to: Grimpachi

It's all good...

Like I said, I owe this forum a lot because I absolutely devastate atheists in debate (who happen to be democrats) on my facebook.

Gaze upon your creation!

I have not rescinded any faith I have in God, just the honorary title of being called a Christian.

People are allowed to change their mind, thats a beautiful thing about living in my Nation.

I considered it logical because I am not a learned Christian.

a reply to: AinElohim

What do Muslims and 'progressive liberal democrats' have to do with atheism? Are you trying to suggest all democrats and liberals are atheist? That's stupid. Also a Muslim believes in god... not an atheist. Duh.

China is more effective than radical Islam... I agree.

What are you insinuating?
China on course to become 'World's most Christian nation'

or to suppress science.

Indoctrinating children with beliefs that are not congruent with science is certainly not helping. Teaching them that faith is more important than being critical about evidence doesn't foster a scientific mind either.

“The man of science has learned to believe in justification, not by faith, but by verification.”
― Thomas Henry Huxley

I am not a christian

Are you the Bible believing kinda non-Christian?

a reply to: AinElohim

I am not into facebook.

To many of those people have no selfie composure.


Maybe you devastated them there but here you are worth a good laugh.

originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: AinElohim

What do Muslims and 'progressive liberal democrats' have to do with atheism?

do you have friends in UK on your social networks?

man this is a lot to go thru in a single post... you may have to start a topic with your question.

let me begin by saying they are acceptive of Islam in fear of being branded a racist, all the while posting upside down crosses and "God" quotes on facebook. Heck man they even Hail Satan.

yeah... my adult European friends

a reply to: AinElohim
Satan is a deity. If they literally are hailing Satan then they are literally not atheists.

I don't think you understand what atheism means.

originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: AinElohim
Satan is a deity. If they literally are hailing Satan then they are literally not atheists.

I don't think you understand what atheism means.

they're Atheists bro...

and I'm going to figure it out

I know it's not logical

a reply to: AinElohim

Well at least you admit it's not logical.

a reply to: Lucid Lunacy

exactly...

and there's still plenty battle here, my first topic as someone pointed out kinda jumps me right back to where I left off.

understanding of the rules (which do not apply elsewhere) has also made me more precise.

I get them flying off the handle sometimes and I know in the back of my mind anyway that the first person to lose that composure is defeated.

the root of ones ideology and the basis for everything starts right here though, in this subject matter.

originally posted by: AinElohim
Let's pick the most recent and the amount of blood, let's keep it 19th century to present.

Outside of the 19th century, we have...

Practically everything in the Old Testament.

God sanctioned and commanded genocide and immorality.

You have ignored that point so far.

(Or at least I missed those replies to my previous posts, if you made them.)

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

originally posted by: AinElohim
Let's pick the most recent and the amount of blood, let's keep it 19th century to present.

Outside of the 19th century, we have...

Practically everything in the Old Testament.

God sanctioned and commanded genocide and immorality.

You have ignored that point so far.

(Or at least I missed those replies to my previous posts, if you made them.)

two different gods in the old testament.

a reply to: undo

According to you, Flyers Fan, Argme and a few others on ATS. Of course that's a small slice of the Christendom pie

a reply to: undo

Well, all I can really say to that is...

Tons of people interpret the Bible differently.

I tend to address the Bible in the way I was taught it.

One God, three aspects (Father, Son, Holy Ghost).

What point are you making though? I am curious.

Is it that all the bad stuff wasn't really God?

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: undo

Well, all I can really say to that is...

Tons of people interpret the Bible differently.

I tend to address the Bible in the way I was taught it.

One God, three aspects (Father, Son, Holy Ghost).

What point are you making though? I am curious.

Is it that all the bad stuff wasn't really God?

well if you go back to the sumerian texts, you find three gods, anu and his two sons, enlil and enki. enlil is a military commander and owner of the planet earth (he owns it like a piece of galactic real estate) and enki is a doctor of life sciences (i would say a biologist, but it's more encompassing than that). enki created humans and actually likes his creation. enlil doesn't like humans (he's apparently not human himself and has a problem with our "species"). and that will pretty much answer all your questions about the way god goes from being a caring father figure, to being completely and incomprehensibly, nothing like a caring father figure.

a reply to: undo

Yeah, I remember reading about those figures some time ago. Though I don't know a ton about them. It's interesting stuff though. Of course it means nothing to Christendom as a whole, most Christians, or their arguments.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: undo

Yeah, I remember reading about those figures some time ago. Though I don't know a ton about them. It's interesting stuff though. Of course it means nothing to Christendom as a whole, most Christians, or their arguments.

well i didn't think so either other than noticing that enki's abzu was the same thing as the abyss/bottomless pit in revelation 9. that's when i sat up and started paying attention. at first i thought enki was the bad guy, but every time i read about him, he was doing all the nice things that jehovah/elohim/yahweh did, whereas enlil was doing all the not so nice things. eventually i had to study the creation chapters veeery carefully, and when i did, it became apparent that jesus was enki.

a reply to: undo

All those things were impossible at the time. That is unless you can produce the evidence that people possessed such technology back then. Because no evidence exists that says they did. Also, raising people from the dead? We still haven't conquered that barrier with our current level of technology...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: undo

All those things were impossible at the time. That is unless you can produce the evidence that people possessed such technology back then. Because no evidence exists that says they did. Also, raising people from the dead? We still haven't conquered that barrier with our current level of technology...

have you read ezekiel 1? a hole opens in the sky and out of it flies metal wheels within wheels. lol

a reply to: undo

So if Jesus is Enki, is Enki the son of Enil? Or is that whole son and father relationship not a part of this interpretation?

but every time i read about him, he was doing all the nice things that jehovah/elohim/yahweh did

All the nice things? You and I read a different Old Testament. Yahweh/Jehovah is a monster.

a reply to: Krazyshot
She's basically alluding to ancient astronaut theory. These Sumerian gods/aliens had technology that far surpasses even our current tech. So assuming that's true then raising the dead aint no thang.

Now is there strong evidence for this? Not that I am aware of. Though some Vedic mythology does seem peculiar. Probably just that way because it's read through a modern lens.

originally posted by: undo

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: undo

All those things were impossible at the time. That is unless you can produce the evidence that people possessed such technology back then. Because no evidence exists that says they did. Also, raising people from the dead? We still haven't conquered that barrier with our current level of technology...

have you read ezekiel 1? a hole opens in the sky and out of it flies metal wheels within wheels. lol

And? Got any remains of this "metal wheels within wheels" to prove it actually existed?

originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: Krazyshot
She's basically alluding to ancient astronaut theory. These Sumerian gods/aliens had technology that far surpasses even our current tech. So assuming that's true then raising the dead aint no thang.

Now is there strong evidence for this? Not that I am aware of. Though some Vedic mythology does seem peculiar. Probably just that way because it's read through a modern lens.

I know, but AA theory is pretty much just another religion. Tons of claims using ancient books and manuscripts, but no objective evidence to corroborate the claims. The only difference here is that AA theory tries to use ALL of the ancient texts and manuscripts instead of just the ones from a particular religion. Piling on more subjective evidence doesn't make your claims anymore valid though. At the end of the day, they are STILL subjective claims which don't count as valid scientific evidence. So AA theory just becomes another religion. You need faith to believe it is true.