Atheist, Politics and God

From my observations I have been able to gauge that these atheists are the elitist and collectivist who want to control every aspect of others lives. They think that the value and moral worth of a human being is determined by their IQ level, and they the atheists themselves being the smartest lot on the planet apparently want to be the ruling class. Liberal left-wing atheists want to implant themselves as rulers over human individual affairs. They are the true face of the NWO, totally brainwashed by liberal mainstream media...

In my nation these particular individuals are usually into left-wing politics, they call themselves democrats and that is the true insult because they are not democratic or liberal about other individuals feelings and beliefs, they are not sensitive to others plights.

They want to destroy the relationship that the individual has with God, and that which is the individuals highest moral authority. A relationship so special that it is the one thing we have which helps us keep governments in check.

So what does anybody feel about atheistic morals entering into the realm of politics even in a nation which is already secular?

www.theobjectivestandard.com...

I don't think all atheists are like that to be honest.


Sure, the odd few think they're smarter than the religious...
Or on occasion think they're actually some sort of scientist, all the while without the credentials or fancy letters at the end of their name...


But that's very rarely.




Most atheists are just as kind and caring as believers...
Tolerant too.



I don't really know what atheistic morals are though.

So I can't really answer that.

Probably more tolerant than believers on average...


Im sure many more Atheists have religious family and friends...

Than believers have Atheist family and friends.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Most atheists are just as kind and caring as believers...
Tolerant too.

I don't believe that...

When you get down to that which matters most, they fall short and fail in morals and ethics.

Also history teaches us that this is something we should be very cautious of, unbelievers are dangerous in my opinion.

Sensing a threat of danger invokes preemptism...

So how many Atheists are in politics??? Answer: not that many. There are FAR more religious in politics than non-religious, even if they are hiding their Atheism from the masses. What "observations" have you made? The picture you're painting is you hate Atheists and give no real evidence for it.

ONLY Atheists are "brainwashed" by MSM? Please elaborate on how you have come to that conclusion.

What nation are you from?

An Atheist's argument is you don't need "God" for morals. We have never needed "God" for morals. Your "special" relationship is based on faith, which is defined as believing without proof. My morals come from my self respect as a fellow human.

Atheists aren't on the forefront of changing the world, but many people are coming away from their false beliefs and realizing that reality trumps faith.

a reply to: AinElohim

Unbelievers are dangerous? Are you kidding? You have a severe lack of knowledge of this topic my friend. I implore you to research the very claims you are making. Muslim extremists are believers, the Crusades were based on religion, I mean I can keep going...

a reply to: AinElohim

OMG the religious don't have a monopoly on morals you know.
Heck have you even read some of the so called moralistic stories in the bible?.
I believe in my God but not a man made version.
Religious people.....dangerous to all.
Just look at the news to understand.

a reply to: InfinityandBeyond

I am drawing my conclusions from my peers... they may not be in politics right now no.

But from the things I read and the history that I know, measures must be taken.

a reply to: boymonkey74

This post was his first...what a heck of a way to break your ATS cherry...

a reply to: AinElohim

Your peers sound misguided buddy and just as extreme as you. What things have you read? I'm asking you to be SPECIFIC. Measures must be taken? Hmmm...I'm interested to see where this goes.

a reply to: AinElohim

Hmmmm, I guess we define "unbelievers" differently then.


An Atheist to me is someone, who for whatever reason, has not seen the signs/had the experiences of a believer...
Or wants a more effective way to test such signs/experiences if they've had them.


An Unbeliever to me is someone who has seen the signs/had the experiences and flatly rejects everything as "delusions" or "hallucinations" or "tricks of the mind", or is too fearful to admit to something their precious mind cannot handle destroying their own personal zeitgeist.



It's the second bunch that are dangerous to me, because they will use power (if they have it) to destroy everyone else's credibility, or chance to believe what they wish.

originally posted by: InfinityandBeyond
a reply to: boymonkey74

This post was his first...what a heck of a way to break your ATS cherry...

I am here to do philosophical battle with logic and reason.

I am wholly individual, so I could care less how other perceive my religious political philosophy.

a reply to: AinElohim

There has been nothing philosophical, logical or reasonable about any of your posts buddy. Believing Atheists are about to wage a war is not a philosophy...more like paranoia. If you fully believe something exists in the heavens, why feel threatened? Or do you feel threatened because you know in your heart Atheists are on to something and you're afraid to admit it...

a reply to: InfinityandBeyond

Yes and Josef Stalin, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot & many others believed that religion was the downfall of humankind...
& oddly enough they're the biggest mass murderers in history...

Besides maybe Ghengis Khan, but I don't know what his beliefs were...
Or if he even existed.

Let's not turn this into religion kills more, because no one has the moral highground in that "debate".

Today, Christians are no more or less moral than anyone else.

They have a history of being less moral though, imo. It depends on your perspective of morality though, ofc. The Old Testament certainly doesn't lay the groundwork for good morals (link). Christians like to ignore things like the Inquisitions, the homophobia, civil rights etc. They like to say the people responsible for things like that aren't or weren't "real Christians". Yes they were, and yes they were responsible. I am not broad brushing all Christians... Nor should all atheists be broad-brushed either..

The reality of the matter is, people are capable of moral and immoral actions. Regardless of race or creed. No one race or creed can claim to be the source from which morals stem either.

a reply to: AinElohim

WAAAAY TOO COOL!


You figured out a way to lump people who disagree with your religious view of things into a group of boogeymen.


YEAY for you!

a reply to: AinElohim

To be honest, its more likely to me that the elite of the elite are not atheists at all, they all seem to believe some flavor of Theosophical Liciferianism. They simply push atheism to neutralize the masses. Most of the atheists that I personally know arent leftists at all, most of them are libertarian minded like me. Either way, the right wing is no better. They try to force denominational christianity onto the public, and the political influence is clear: no abortion, no gay marriage, die for Zionist Israel.

The bible teaches that soul-life is breathed in at the first breath, not conception.

The bible is against homosexuality, but that cannot be enforced in a constitutional society that separates church from state.

Jesus taught that He would personally regather Israel at His return, so why do we support a politically atheistic nation that was single handedly established by the globalists?

In my opinion, there is nothing more spiritually ignorant than a person who denies that a creator exists, but atheism is not the root of the problem. The root of the problem is the political polarization of the public.

As a christian dispensationalist, I tell you that the conservative christians are equally responsible for the decay of this nation as the liberal atheists.

Jesus never told us to get into political crusaderism. The irony is that we have become the Sadducees and Pharisees of the modern day.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I was raised religious. Half of my life. There is NO proof that these "signs" or "experiences" exist outside of the mind of the believer themselves. Do you realize there is a disease for people who worry about their health so much they actually get sick? Hypochondria. If you devote your life to believing in your choice religion (which of course is the right one and all the others are absolutely wrong) then I believe yes, you are hallucinating because of your severe amount of trust and confidence your "God" is the right "God" and you will go to heaven. My mom is religious and saw a sun ray poke through the clouds and told me it was "God". You mean those signs? Because to me, in my reality, is sunshine coming through the clouds...

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: AinElohim

OMG the religious don't have a monopoly on morals you know.
Heck have you even read some of the so called moralistic stories in the bible?.
I believe in my God but not a man made version.
Religious people.....dangerous to all.
Just look at the news to understand.

my religion is Heavy Metal, please do not refer to me as a Christian or a Muslim or a Hindu, I am a theist.

there is no need to bring religion into this.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: AinElohim

WAAAAY TOO COOL!


You figured out a way to lump people who disagree with your religious view of things into a group of boogeymen.


YEAY for you!

I understand... you don't like my music. I know Heavy Metal is not for everyone.