US fears Russian publication of satellite photos of 9/11

No they don't. Even if they had hardcore evidence it would never reach the american public. The US govt owns the media and most of the internet. A smattering of people would see it on youtube before they pulled it,but not nearly enough to effect change. The only places to still view it would be the small obscure video playing sites that nobodies heard of.

I doubt we will ever see this evidence if it exists,the USA would bend over backwards to make sure this never got out.

a reply to: plube

What a load of ... you know. Why would Russia hesitate to do so? Discredit the country they consider their nemesis of decades and brought down their empire? It would have been done long ago if it were true. There is No Reason they would have held back. Making us look bad? Please. It would have been out there already!

a reply to: nosacrificenofreedom
Even if the president came out and said we did it, YES we did it and wtf are you going to do about it most Americans ( and most westerners) would do NOTHING. It takes a lot of guts to stand up to bullies that would kill you just as soon as look at you. These people (entities) would rather blow the planet to bits and spend a huge time in a absolute hellish night mare world than give up control. If a bunch of archetechs and engineers ( the very people that design and build these buildings at great risk to thier careers) using credable science to prove thier case do not convince people along with a massive amount of other evidence(such as high school physics) then nothing will. Any evidence that the russians have will be ignored no matter how convincing. Most western populations just do not want to know.
Besides if there was to much fuss the democrats might even use the event to say that they are innocent and look at the evil republicans while the main part of Americas involment would be blamed on a few rogue cia agents (scapegoats) working with terrorist groups and the american public would probably buy into this story as it would be an easy way out of conflict and most people hate conflict.

originally posted by: Qspeedyrock
If a bunch of archetechs and engineers ( the very people that design and build these buildings at great risk to thier careers) using credable science to prove thier case do not convince people along with a massive amount of other evidence(such as high school physics) then nothing will.

The reason their silly claims are ignored by the vast majority of architects and engineers is they are just crap, and made up silly stories to make some people money.

originally posted by: fartsmeller46
No they don't. Even if they had hardcore evidence it would never reach the american public. The US govt owns the media and most of the internet. A smattering of people would see it on youtube before they pulled it,but not nearly enough to effect change. The only places to still view it would be the small obscure video playing sites that nobodies heard of.

Now that's just flat out ridiculous.

In fact this scenario literally just happened with less of earth shattering reveal, nsa and wikileaks ring any bells? They couldn't stop that and a lot of people are pissed about it. Imagine 911, my god. You clearly live in fantasy world champ, I'll let you get back to it.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The only nation I see that was involved in the cover-up is the UK. I mean, they broadcast the collapse of WT7 before it happened... . they knew that tower was coming down.

Every other world leader was simply being sensible and keeping their mouth shut. It would be suicide not to....

Oh and the people claiming that the plane was a hologram... you've made legitimate researchers look stupid and are a big part of the reason 'conspiracy theorist' is a derogatory term used to describe 9/11 truthers. Seriously. Stop it.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: plube

You know what will happen right?
The republicans will sweep it all under the rug........ If they have evidence.

Which I doubt.

And everyone will be too busy watching The Walking Dead to care anyways.

Ironic isn't it?

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

Logic failure here DJW just wanted to point out that you said:

"Pravda, the source for the claim in the OP, pushes blatant lies."

and

"It is a very big problem if you give them any credibility whatsoever. "

and

"Russian media outlets are saying only what the Russian government orders them to."

What you ultimately meant to say is that : the Russian government lies and controls all Russian media outlets to lie for it.

That is a pretty spectacular, glittering generality fallacy you got there buddy. You have the skillz to be a master propaganda artist some day.

Making a generality is not a fallacy if the generality is true. For example, "People in Moscow speak Russian" is a generality. It is also true. Your list of "fallacies" is idiosyncratic, and useless. Most of the things you list are rhetorical techniques, not fallacies. I submit that you should start a thread in "Deconstructing Disinformation" discussing them. If you don't, I will.

Returning to the subject, I have posted a link to a source supporting my assertion that Pravda.ru is not a reliable source of information. Here is a summary of the questionable stories they have run:

The Moon landings are a hoax.
Global warming is a hoax.
HIV is a hoax.
Evolution is a hoax.
Russia created two HIV vaccines in 2004, and one more in 2006 from genetically modified tomatoes.
An alien base was filmed on the Moon.
Support for Russian scientists who claim that the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is actually a time machine.
That the FBI and CIA are fighting over access to a parallel world which allows time travel and therefore modification of our world.
America is ready to attack Russia.
Nostradamus foresaw World War III in 2010.
Atlantis was discovered under Antarctica.
Human and alien skulls were discovered on Mars.
Fishermen caught and ate an alien.
A young boy called Boris Kipriyanovich is an indigo child and the reincarnation of a Martian.

More

On the other hand, you would be correct to point out that Pravda.ru is different than Pravda, the print newspaper. They are not run by the same people.

I find it odd that one tiny scrap of error in a Western media outlet justifies rejecting everything that Main Stream Media says, but Russian media seems to be able to make outrageous claims and contradict itself time and again yet is considered the be the best source of "independent news."

Oh, and I see someone has dragged Snowdon into this again. Note to Russian propagandists: you should have thought about that earlier. Go back and change the original web pages if that's the story you want to tell now.

One, I don't really see how the US would let them show it in a way that the public mass could see it as real.

Two, it would need to be very hardcore and clear cutting proof, that is very hard to have anymore.

Three, people will wounder why they held back this info for such a long time, making it less likely for them to put faith in it.

But I'd still like to see it. It's like bigfoot photos, sure I don't think it'll be real but it's still fun to look it over.

I'm not sure satellites could prove anything to be honest,we saw the planes clearly hit the towers but perhaps the pentagon is the nail in the coffin on the official story of events?

Perhaps Russia might also bring SA into the equation,they after all seem to have their grubby little fingers in terrorist activities and the war on terror hasn't hurt them in the slightest

There also trying to hurt Russia financially with oil prices and rumours arise that Russia may itself be a target yet again for Islamic fanatics with the nod from the SA princes

Who knows,perhaps they will produce the smoking gun but then again could be a water pistol

What would they even try to prove with a satellite photo? I don't think we'll get much unless they show a van dropping off the terrorist off at the airport with the CIA written on the top of it.

a reply to: ObjectZero

All they need to do is give enough evidence that, and lets face it, most people want, showing that the USA was behind the deaths of its own people in gain of war.

if they do that, the US will erupt from the inside, and Russia can sit back and keep flicking the ear of Ukraine

That is what they want, how can US fight a war overseas when a war breaks out within the US?

I don't think they'll get the reaction they want. It's been too long for it to just whip up a internal war over night or even over the span of a couple weeks.

At best we might see a few people set down from positions and get put in to court. If they info and photos they share are real.

originally posted by: ObjectZero
What would they even try to prove with a satellite photo? I don't think we'll get much unless they show a van dropping off the terrorist off at the airport with the CIA written on the top of it.

It is claimed they have a satellite image of a anchored carrier launching a Douglas A-3 Skywarrior....

remind the Gulf of Tonkin as three heavily armed boats 333 336 339 attacked peaceful destroyer 7 + 3 + 1, and why sudden you become pacifists s3.amazonaws.com... only until the termination of the Vietnam War, your cutthroats became necessary to Israel

Everyone knows that the US had some involvement in the 9/11 attacks. It doesn't matter. Nobody cares. You could come up with video showing Cheney detonating the bombs and nothing would come of it other than a bit of buz in the MSM for about a week and promise of "special committee" that by the time they looked into it, deals were made and lips are sealed.... like the '9/11 commission report".

There is no such thing as investigative journalism anymore so discovering any solid facts is impossible. Absolutely impossible under this establishment.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
pravda.ru says it all.
no more credible than RT.

i like this part here.

in the cities will begin mass protests, turning into an uprising, paint a picture of American analysts

if it ant got to do with race or evil corporations, there are no mass protests, turning into an uprising/ looting.

What media is credible to you? Aren't those two the mouth pieces of the Russian Government? Shouldn't that be credible? Or is it just that it doesn't jive with Western media (mouth pieces of Western Government)? Seriously interested.

a reply to: Phatdamage
Even if this article is true, my prediction is that it will stir the people up just as much as this recent media fueled race baiting that has been going on. A lot of stomping, with not much actually being done. They have the US public exactly where they want them.