Bill Would Allow Texas Teachers to Use Deadly Force Against Students

a reply to: Answer

Here's a google search for thief killed in Texas.

So i guess some people do not simply get the right to self defense is an unalienable RIGHT.

That no one has a right to take from you.

No matter the occupation.

Not even the state.

Not even never,never land on Capitol Shill.

a reply to: neo96

No...

a reply to: neo96

Sure beats dialing 911, and just sit and wait to die.

Yes, because people are lying around dying from petty theft while they wait for the cops to respond to recover their 6-packs of beer and tip jars. Could you be any more disingenuous?

originally posted by: Kali74
I wish I could say I was shocked at the sentiment that property is worth more than a kids life... but I'm not. Just disgusted.

Couldn't agree more!

But, when I step back and consider the source, sadly it's almost predictable.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

I thought allowing everyone to be judge, jury and executioner is precisely how they want it in Texas?

Sure beats dialing 911, and just sit and wait to die.

You're going to die if your property is stolen or damaged?

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Shamrock6

You're good with use of deadly force to protect property?

Depends on the property.

Really?

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

Sure beats dialing 911, and just sit and wait to die.

Yes, because people are lying around dying from petty theft while they wait for the cops to respond to recover their 6-packs of beer and tip jars. Could you be any more disingenuous?

Yes someone is being disingenuous.

Like how the article in the op was been so twisted.

It's effing ridiculous.

originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

I thought allowing everyone to be judge, jury and executioner is precisely how they want it in Texas?

Sure beats dialing 911, and just sit and wait to die.

You're going to die if your property is stolen or damaged?

Hey if it's good enough for teachers ?

Why the hell not ?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Answer

Here's a google search for thief killed in Texas.

I'll state again:

I used the term "unjustifiably killed."

If someone was committing a theft of property and was killed, then by definition of Texas law, the shooting was justified.

Regardless of all your complaints, the beauty of our system is that the bill will be voted on by Texas representatives. If the citizens of Texas do not want the bill passed, they will make their opinions heard.

Furthermore, if the citizens of Texas had a problem with the "defense of property" section of the deadly force law, they would have spoken out to have that portion repealed. It certainly isn't a recent addition to state law.

I would find a part of Massachusetts state law to complain about but I have much more productive things to do than start irrelevant complaint-fests on the internet.

a reply to: Answer

So theft is justifiably dealt with by Capital Punishment?

Shoot a guy for stealing a case of beer... Yeah sure...

Snipe a mother in front of her children for stealing from Walmart... Damn skippy...

Gunned down for taking a tip jar... Oh hell yeah...

Shot for walking off with a creeps 100dollars... Hey she was only a hooker anyways...

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

I thought allowing everyone to be judge, jury and executioner is precisely how they want it in Texas?

Sure beats dialing 911, and just sit and wait to die.

You're going to die if your property is stolen or damaged?

Hey if it's good enough for teachers ?

Why the hell not ?

What?

originally posted by: Kali74

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Shamrock6

You're good with use of deadly force to protect property?

Depends on the property.

Really?

Really really.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Kali74

What the hell! Teachers are educators NOT policemen. I know this is a stupid, reactionary law in response to all the school shootings, but man such idiocy...

When being a teacher needs to be a armed proffesion something has gone very very very wrong socialy

Nancy Grace and the Texas judicial system, has just been assured of steady employment....YEE HAH, TEXAS!!!!!

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Answer

So theft is justifiably dealt with by Capital Punishment?

Shoot a guy for stealing a case of beer... Yeah sure...

Snipe a mother in front of her children for stealing from Walmart... Damn skippy...

Gunned down for taking a tip jar... Oh hell yeah...

Shot for walking off with a creeps 100dollars... Hey she was only a hooker anyways...

How about don't steal from people and it will never be an issue?

Laws should be designed to dissuade crime, not to be more forgiving. The "slap on the wrist" style of justice only creates more criminals.

a reply to: Shamrock6

smh

a reply to: Answer

For this to be an issue worth debating, the people who were shot must be innocent folk who were doing nothing wrong and were shot because of the false sense of justification instilled by the "defense of property" law.

Let's think that one through. Under your criteria, it's "not worth debating" whether or not killing somebody over shoplifting a 6-pack is right because a crime was committed. How many crimes carry a penalty of death? Where do you draw the line? If snatching a tip jar warrants summary execution, what about other minor offenses and what makes it okay for individuals to exceed the mandate of law enforcement when it comes to enforcing laws?

Are uniformed police allowed to summarily execute shoplifters? Graffiti artists? Drunk and disorderly people?

Texas is already the laughing stock of anything having to do with education anyway.....now this



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Now they can just shoot the little terrorist.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Kali74

What the hell! Teachers are educators NOT policemen. I know this is a stupid, reactionary law in response to all the school shootings, but man such idiocy...

When being a teacher needs to be a armed proffesion something has gone very very very wrong socialy

100% agree. Unfortunately, people would rather build dams than address the cause of the flooding.