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originally posted by: AnuTyr
a reply to: Judgie
Atlantis is just a generic name for the antdeluviant super civilization that existed before the Ice-age.
It's not a specific place, It's to mean a type of age. Like today we have skyscrappers and follow a system globally. If this society were to fall to another ice age. The society we live in today would be Atlantis as well.
By such definition anyways lol.
Society globally has been destroyed and reconnected multipul times.
The remains we are seeing are only the remains of the last destruction. Not the first one.
originally posted by: Wolfenz
www.crystalclarity.com...
"You have read in the scriptures," Master went on, "that God encased the human soul successively in three bodies-the idea, or causal, body; the subtle astral body, seat of man's mental and emotional natures; and the gross physical body. On earth a man is equipped with his physical senses. An astral being works with his consciousness and feelings and a body made of lifetrons.2 A causal-bodied being remains in the blissful realm of ideas. My work is with those astral beings who are preparing to enter the causal world."
"Adorable Master, please tell me more about the astral cosmos." Though I had slightly relaxed my embrace at Sri Yukteswar's request, my arms were still around him. Treasure beyond all treasures, my guru who had laughed at death to reach me!
"There are many astral planets, teeming with astral beings," Master began. "The inhabitants use astral planes, or masses of light, to travel from one planet to another, faster than electricity and radioactive energies.
"The astral universe, made of various subtle vibrations of light and color, is hundreds of times larger than the material cosmos. The entire physical creation hangs like a little solid basket under the huge luminous balloon of the astral sphere. Just as many physical suns and stars roam in space, so there are also countless astral solar and stellar systems. Their planets have astral suns and moons, more beautiful than the physical ones. The astral luminaries resemble the aurora borealis-the sunny astral aurora being more dazzling than the mild-rayed moon-aurora. The astral day and night are longer than those of earth.
"The astral world is infinitely beautiful, clean, pure, and orderly. There are no dead planets or barren lands. The terrestrial blemishes-weeds, bacteria, insects, snakes-are absent. Unlike the variable climates and seasons of the earth, the astral planets maintain the even temperature of an eternal spring, with occasional luminous white snow and rain of many-colored lights. Astral planets abound in opal lakes and bright seas and rainbow rivers.
"The ordinary astral universe-not the subtler astral heaven of Hiranyaloka-is peopled with millions of astral beings who have come, more or less recently, from the earth, and also with myriads of fairies, mermaids, fishes, animals, goblins, gnomes, demigods and spirits, all residing on different astral planets in accordance with karmic qualifications. Various spheric mansions or vibratory regions are provided for good and evil spirits. Good ones can travel freely, but the evil spirits are confined to limited zones. In the same way that human beings live on the surface of the earth, worms inside the soil, fish in water, and birds in air, so astral beings of different grades are assigned to suitable vibratory quarters.
"Among the fallen dark angels expelled from other worlds, friction and war take place with lifetronic bombs or mental mantric3 vibratory rays. These beings dwell in the gloom-drenched regions of the lower astral cosmos, working out their evil karma.
"In the vast realms above the dark astral prison, all is shining and beautiful. The astral cosmos is more naturally attuned than the earth to the divine will and plan of perfection. Every astral object is manifested primarily by the will of God, and partially by the will-call of astral beings. They possess the power of modifying or enhancing the grace and form of anything already created by the Lord. He has given His astral children the freedom and privilege of changing or improving at will the astral cosmos. On earth a solid must be transformed into liquid or other form through natural or chemical processes, but astral solids are changed into astral liquids, gases, or energy solely and instantly by the will of the inhabitants.
"The earth is dark with warfare and murder in the sea, land, and air," my guru continued, "but the astral realms know a happy harmony and equality. Astral beings dematerialize or materialize their forms at will. Flowers or fish or animals can metamorphose themselves, for a time, into astral men. All astral beings are free to assume any form, and can easily commune together. No fixed, definite, natural law hems them round-any astral tree, for example, can be successfully asked to produce an astral mango or other desired fruit, flower, or indeed any other object. Certain karmic restrictions are present, but there are no distinctions in the astral world about desirability of various forms. Everything is vibrant with God's creative light.
"No one is born of woman; offspring are materialized by astral beings through the help of their cosmic will into specially patterned, astrally condensed forms. The recently physically disembodied being arrives in an astral family through invitation, drawn by similar mental and spiritual tendencies.
"The astral body is not subject to cold or heat or other natural conditions. The anatomy includes an astral brain, or the thousand-petaled lotus of light, and six awakened centers in the sushumna, or astral cerebro-spinal axis. The heart draws cosmic energy as well as light from the astral brain, and pumps it to the astral nerves and body cells, or lifetrons. Astral beings can affect their bodies by lifetronic force or by mantric vibrations.
"The astral body is an exact counterpart of the last physical form. Astral beings retain the same appearance which they possessed in youth in their previous earthly sojourn; occasionally an astral being chooses, like myself, to retain his old age appearance." Master, emanating the very essence of youth, chuckled merrily.
"Unlike the spacial, three-dimensional physical world cognized only by the five senses, the astral spheres are visible to the all-inclusive sixth sense-intuition," Sri Yukteswar went on. "By sheer intuitional feeling, all astral beings see, hear, smell, taste, and touch. They possess three eyes, two of which are partly closed. The third and chief astral eye, vertically placed on the forehead, is open. Astral beings have all the outer sensory organs-ears, eyes, nose, tongue, and skin-but they employ the intuitional sense to experience sensations through any part of the body; they can see through the ear, or nose, or skin. They are able to hear through the eyes or tongue, and can taste through the ears or skin, and so forth.4
"Man's physical body is exposed to countless dangers, and is easily hurt or maimed; the ethereal astral body may occasionally be cut or bruised but is healed at once by mere willing."
"Gurudeva, are all astral persons beautiful?"
"Beauty in the astral world is known to be a spiritual quality, and not an outward conformation," Sri Yukteswar replied. "Astral beings therefore attach little importance to facial features. They have the privilege, however, of costuming themselves at will with new, colorful, astrally materialized bodies. Just as worldly men don new array for gala events, so astral beings find occasions to bedeck themselves in specially designed forms.
In all the years of my personal research the inescapable answer, is yes.
Was there really an advanced race living before the ice age?
The two do not follow. Besides, there is proof of evolution, and there is no proof of 'advanced civilizations before us, assuming you mean something of a scale equal or greater than modern-day.
originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: Judgie
I often wonder if people who believe in Evolution also believe there were advanced civilizations before us. To me that is a contradiction. At the very least it would prove science completely wrong on the timeline of human evolution.
Evidence. How about artifacts found within an indisputably sealed context and excavated by scientists of high repute? That's what it took at Monte Verde in Chile, and the whole 'clovis first' paradigm collapsed.
originally posted by: Judgie
Here is another question, what would be needed to prove to everyone that there was an advanced race living on the planet? I mean we seem to be going in circles with conspiracy talk, if we really wanted to prove this without a doubt how would we do it? What would we need to find?
I'm of the opinion that we have already found all that is needed to prove the case of a "Advanced prior Civilization". The problem is the present power structure in place that actively conceals pertinent finds and information. The media plays a huge role in what is acceptable and what is myth.
originally posted by: Judgie
Here is another question, what would be needed to prove to everyone that there was an advanced race living on the planet? I mean we seem to be going in circles with conspiracy talk, if we really wanted to prove this without a doubt how would we do it? What would we need to find?
The two do not follow. Besides, there is proof of evolution, and there is no proof of 'advanced civilizations before us, assuming you mean something of a scale equal or greater than modern-day.
Evidence. How about artifacts found within an indisputably sealed context and excavated by scientists of high repute? That's what it took at Monte Verde in Chile, and the whole 'clovis first' paradigm collapsed.
Money?
originally posted by: Judgie
I could go on all day about sites around the world which should be looked and explored further because they help confirm an alternative model. However this is not happening, can you offer an explanation why these sites are being ignored and not studied or looked into?
Careful on this matter, as it is quite often illegal to do so. It sure is where I live, unless you have a licence. You go in with your shovels, and you destroy the context of anything you find. Artifacts are only a part of any story. Where they were found generates more important data, even though it sometimes looks as though 'it's all about the goodies'. Seriously, study up on it before you wreck stuff...there's a reason such types are called looters, and pot-hunters.
originally posted by: Judgie
Some of these sites do not need this immediately anyway, and most lie so close to the surface that a couple of guys with shovels could expose a fair amount in a few days. The possibility is endless on how we could achieve this. The hardest part is actually getting people to look and support this with a complete media blackout.
Careful on this matter, as it is quite often illegal to do so. It sure is where I live, unless you have a licence.
Believe it or not your on to something here is an exert from Autobiography Of A Yogi where they speak of the astral world above our own universe able to touch our yet we are unable to reach thiers:
Perhaps we are evolving towards this destiny of astral light manipulation. . . Reguardless our souls are destined to experience the higher worlds. . .
originally posted by: Wolfenz
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Believe it or not your on to something here is an exert from Autobiography Of A Yogi where they speak of the astral world above our own universe able to touch our yet we are unable to reach thiers:
Exactly ... until we become that Energy yet again that so called Spiritual Soul ! that 21 Grams of it...
to Cross Over into Their Space Time...
When I read about Mythology & Religion as it goes Hand and Hand ....
I'm not just thing a Alien from a Another World aka a ALIEN, CIV Type 3 Angel, Deity ....
but just maybe another Dimension aka a Different Time Space then our Own .... That These Sentient Beings are In... if this was ever s Revealed it Will Explain alot of Things ... Like for example ... a Animal that just popped into Existence out of nowhere... in Areas that Scientist re-Searched Thoroughly for Decades let alone Supernatural and Paranormal Events ... if your in that kind of thing of Beliefs ...
Perhaps we are evolving towards this destiny of astral light manipulation. . . Reguardless our souls are destined to experience the higher worlds. . .
Well that's what Some People Have claimed going to the Next level... just maybe they are Right
Exactly Destined to go to the Stars ! as most People have the Sentient Wonder and Curiosity wanting to Reach those Stars or wanting go to them....
Just thing about this ...
MODERN Man ( as we are Today ) has been on this planet for over 250,000+ Years ....
Yet we only have WRITTEN Recorded History ... at Least 10,000 Years... well excluding Petroglyphs and Cave paintings that is ... So What the Hell Has Modern MAN has Been Doing for the Last 240,000 Years ???
We All know the Accomplishments MAN has Made in the Last 6,000 Years ... and Look How Far we Came in just a Little over 100 Years.. ALONE!!!! a Heavy then Air machine to Landing on the moon in what ??? 66 Years..
The Most Unexplained Spot is Puma Punku... tho Dating is only 3,000 year give Or Take.. Some Say 17,000 Years
and then we have the Göbekli Tepe Ruins that is Close to 11,000 year old if not older ...
I Doubt Cave Men have Accomplished that Feat!!! Right Out of the Blue !
I could go on and On here .. but MSG me if you want to Discuss in a little More Depth ...
originally posted by: AnuTyr
a reply to: Judgie
Atlantis is just a generic name for the antdeluviant super civilization that existed before the Ice-age.
It's not a specific place, It's to mean a type of age. Like today we have skyscrappers and follow a system globally. If this society were to fall to another ice age. The society we live in today would be Atlantis as well.
By such definition anyways lol.
Society globally has been destroyed and reconnected multipul times.
The remains we are seeing are only the remains of the last destruction. Not the first one.
originally posted by: Judgie
We think homo-sapiens are 200,000 years old. Lack of evidence of them being older doesn't mean that in the future we wont find evidence. Anyway that is a trivial detail. In 1903 the Wright brothers created the first airplane, it was essentially a powered kite and very primitive. By 1969 (less than 70 years later) we had space technology. If we have been around for 200,000 years who knows how many times we could have developed in that time and also how little evidence especially of the more remote periods there would be left. How long does it take for iron to corrode? how long do bones last before they decay? How quickly does it take Loess or wind blown silt bury structures?