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In Shi'a Islam, taqiyya (تقیة taqiyyah/taqīyah) is a form of religious dissimulation, or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution.
Taqiyya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
In Shia Islam
while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution.
A religion that allows this is coward-y because if you were strong in your beliefs, you'd just suffer and suck it up instead of pretending to be someone else just to save your backside.
originally posted by: St Udio
i have a notion i might evoke the name Al-Wali (#55 which means Protecting Friend)...just before the lopping off begins, causing the Jihadi's to stop !
and every single nation listed that is judged when Christ returns is a Muslim nation today.
OP is a Christian.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Would you be so quick to condemn a loved one as "coward-y" if they lied to save their own skin?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: St Udio
i have a notion i might evoke the name Al-Wali (#55 which means Protecting Friend)...just before the lopping off begins, causing the Jihadi's to stop !
Lets see if I followed all that .... You believe that islam will overtake the world in a violent way and when it comes time for them to kill you, you'll call upon a 'god' that you don't believe in ... (Allah) by the name Al-Wali ... and you think this will make the Jihadis stop killing you because they'll recognize that you are calling upon Allah under that guise?
Or did I get that wrong??
If that's what you are saying .... I suppose it might save your life.
But do you really want to call on a god that you believe is false?
A Christian won't do that. Are you Christian? Just wondering.
Allah and the Christian God are not the same God.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Would you be so quick to condemn a loved one as "coward-y" if they lied to save their own skin?
A lie is a lie. Christians are told not to lie. Supposedly Muslims are too ... they buy into the 10 Commandments, right? That Moses was a prophet? Moses said God doesn't want ANY lies.
Calling out to a false god in order to save your life is against Christian teaching. Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. To Christians, Allah is false ... just as to Muslims, the worship of Jesus as God is false.
It's more important to stay faithful to God then to save your life here on Earth. This is Christian teaching.
Revelation 12: 10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: FlyersFan
I'm talking about your loved ones lives not your own...
Would you let ISIS behead someone you love just so you can say "at least I didn't lie"...
To be honest I would have thought you could go to "confession" at a safer time afterwards and Jesus & the Priest would forgive you...
& like I said, it's a Shia tradition not one that is gonna be used by all Muslims to take over the world as some would lead us to believe when they say "and then...BAM."...
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Would you let ISIS behead someone you love just so you can say "at least I didn't lie"...
To be honest I would have thought you could go to "confession" at a safer time afterwards and Jesus & the Priest would forgive you...
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Would you let ISIS behead someone you love just so you can say "at least I didn't lie"...
Yes. Not denying God is more important than living here on Earth. To continue to profess God while in the face of death for yourself or your children, is what we are called to do. To do so is to preach truth. To lie in order to get out of suffering is weak and doesn't preach truth. The devil is the father of lies.
To be honest I would have thought you could go to "confession" at a safer time afterwards and Jesus & the Priest would forgive you...
Then you don't understand what it means to be a Christian. And you have never read the bible or Jesus words in it. You can't go around telling lies or denying God, all the while winking at God and saying that you'll get square with him when things are safer.
2 Maccabees 7
Preaching the truth, even unto death, is what we are called to do. Telling lies to stop our suffering is weak and it would show our faith to be wrong. You imply that Islam allows lies to get out of suffering. This is the opposite of what Jesus taught.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: FlyersFan
Sure...
For what it's worth...
Allah knows what's in the Hearts & Souls of the people...
& that's what He Judges...
Not the words that are spoke... According to Shiites.
Also I never said that Islam allows lies...
I've twice said that its a Shia Tradition, much like their self harm practices.