7 Children Taken from Parents, Search Warrant for legal "miracle cure" supplement? WTH

Ive eaten the stuff straight (with water) it will clean you out but wont harm you....
And I never got that upset myself on it.
It works for all kinds of diseases if you believe Jim Humble....(the pioneer of it)
Supposed to even be an ebola cure (taken properly)
The Big pharma don't want it spread around it must be good for something......

I don't know what to hope for here.

If they took the kids for good reason, then it means those cute babies were abused.

If it wasn't for a good reason, it means my kids could be next.

originally posted by: JessicaRabbitTx
I don't know what to hope for here.

If they took the kids for good reason, then it means those cute babies were abused.

If it wasn't for a good reason, it means my kids could be next.

From what I've read.

They took the kids on a 72 hour hold. A week later they still had them.

The parents are waiting for their court date.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Annee
There has to be more to this story.

This doesn't add up.

I am with you on that. I have never heard of a search warrant for something like this. How did the police even know he had the bleach miracle cure.

They have two kids in college now I wonder how the relationship with the family is at this point.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the police used this as a premise to gain entry talk to the children away from the parents and determine if they were in some sort of danger.

I really think there is much more to this story than is being told and the search warrant was just a means to get in and asses the situation.

It seems obvious that something was going on that is not included in that very poor news article. There had to have been an assessment made that the children were in danger. Hopefully, the facts will come out in the wash.

Interview with Michelle Stanley here

a reply to: TKDRL

Meh that isn't the interview I want.


I'll give it a listen though.

washingtonpost.com

This article has a few more details like snipers laying in the ditches and how it was a full force raid.

The preacher goes on to tell how his oldest was at a friends house and sopposedly had asked for help to get away from his home school.

Sounds like just a bunch of nosey do gooders.

Stanley mentioned investigators spoke with his children privately. His wife, Michelle, said stories about their child rearing practices came into play. A claim made by one of the children, that he often goes hungry, was refuted by the mother claiming he often didn't want to eat what she made because it contained something like “whole wheat.”

The husband and wife also defended their use of MMS, saying they used the product for its intended purpose of purifying water. Officials in the Garland County Sheriff's office have caught a bit of flack regarding why the children were removed from their home just outside Hot Springs. Earlier media reports claimed that the search of the Stanley home by GCSO was only for MMS, but Sheriff Mike McCormick said in a statement on Tuesday that, “this is absolutely false.”

The Stanley's believe the investigation and “kidnapping” of their children is truly an attack on their Christian faith. The family doesn't own a television, they home-school their children and they believe in spanking. Hal Stanley believes some people think he and his family are fanatics, and his wife believes that some of their older children are playing along with the abuse and neglect claims.

“I'm not against DHS coming and removing kids when they're really in danger,” said Michelle Stanley. “But you've got two teenagers who wanted to go to public school, they've been fighting for it for a very long time, and I think that they just took advantage of them.”

Link

It appears that, as is usually the case, there is more to the story than originally reported. Reports of neglect and abuse directly from the children will, and should, draw the attention of the authorities.

a reply to: deadeyedick

You mean the dad said there was.

More and more this is looking like it has nothing to do with the mms and more and more to do with child neglect.

a reply to: LeatherNLace

and when the authorities have their attention on a case it is up to them to use some type of judgment in such cases. you are just finding what you want to find.

How many cops does it take to find out if a kid ate his dinner? half a dozen and a couple snipers.

you need to get a grip!

a reply to: Sremmos80

then try to explain how non physical neglect accasuations warrants a swat team???????????

You all have to keep in mind that i am not against cps or other services but there are no reasons givin yet for any amount of force to be used up front. these things happen everyday where a cps officer goes in and determines if there is any substance to the claims of neglect then they can call for help if at that pont further action is needed. To bring such a force to raid a home shows that they had already made their minds up in the situation. To take out the mms out of the house when the stated use was givin shows they already were looking for it.

You all can not try to justify this type of treatment and expect people to buy into your stance. As i stated before if the cops had any evidence then they would have stated so but they are hiding the raid for mms on the back of cps.

a reply to: deadeyedick
Well again words of the dad, maybe there was maybe there wasn't a swat team.

But they roll those out for everything nowadays.
I would be willing to bet they thought or knew that the family was armed and was expecting the worst.

a reply to: Sremmos80

no they do not roll out the swat team for child neglect claims everyday.

you are covering.

It sounds like you want to call the family liars.

You should just do that.

Everytime people just bend over to this type of abuse and write it off they are asking for a more forceful police state.

You are using no critical thinking in your post.

If there were any weapons present then they would have been taken until the charges are filed or cleared.

If the weapons were not taken but left then the police would be responsible for any future deaths in the mean time.

There are proceedures for all of these scenerios you come up with and so far you and the police are reaching.

a reply to: deadeyedick

No I am saying they roll them out for anything and everything.
I am not calling them liars, just won't take the dads word as exactly what happend, he has a bias that needs to be addressed.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: deadeyedick

You mean the dad said there was.

More and more this is looking like it has nothing to do with the mms and more and more to do with child neglect.

That kind of depends on what you consider neglect.

One of my kids told a neighbor they were hungry because I starved them.

FACT: I raised her on health food. She wanted Fruity Pebbles.

a reply to: Sremmos80

as do the police have a bias but in the end you have to take somebodys word as truth.

here is a clue. if the dad says anything to the press that is provably a lie then he can be held accountable for it. if he has a bias it is to have to tell the truth in order to get his family back together.

There was nothing taken from the house other than mms and his kids so that tells a whole lot if we think about it we can eliminate many criminal activities from the situation and the fact that no drugs,porn or other "bad stuff" was taken that should raise his credibility level a few notches for you.

also the police already eliminated any physical abuse so we are left with just a charge of neglect and that in no way warrents all this mess. It is an over reach by police and could have been handled by cps visit as in most cases and not a raid.

Court documents, he said, indicate that the 16-year-old boy reported bringing the MMS bottle to a friend’s house and then coughed for several hours after smelling it. But Stanley suspects that the boy may have inhaled a different chemical used for the aquaponics system, and that he used the incident to try to get out of his parents’ homeschooling program. “The two teenagers, the top two — they wanted to go to public school,” Hal Stanley said. “And of course, we’ve insisted that they have a home-schooled education. But I think they were used. “Instead of demanding that we put them in public school, they just arrested them and put them in public school. All the things we’ve wanted to protect them from in public school – they just totally against our wishes put them in public school.”

www.washingtonpost.com... acle-supplement-mms/

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Sremmos80

. . . the police already eliminated any physical abuse so we are left with just a charge of neglect and that in no way warrents all this mess. It is an over reach by police and could have been handled by cps visit as in most cases and not a raid.

When was that? I doubt anythings been eliminated. They haven't even had a court date yet.

IMO, due to past experiences with preppers, caution and preparedness by LEO is justified.

originally posted by: LeatherNLace

Stanley mentioned investigators spoke with his children privately. His wife, Michelle, said stories about their child rearing practices came into play. A claim made by one of the children, that he often goes hungry, was refuted by the mother claiming he often didn't want to eat what she made because it contained something like “whole wheat.”

The husband and wife also defended their use of MMS, saying they used the product for its intended purpose of purifying water. Officials in the Garland County Sheriff's office have caught a bit of flack regarding why the children were removed from their home just outside Hot Springs. Earlier media reports claimed that the search of the Stanley home by GCSO was only for MMS, but Sheriff Mike McCormick said in a statement on Tuesday that, “this is absolutely false.”

The Stanley's believe the investigation and “kidnapping” of their children is truly an attack on their Christian faith. The family doesn't own a television, they home-school their children and they believe in spanking. Hal Stanley believes some people think he and his family are fanatics, and his wife believes that some of their older children are playing along with the abuse and neglect claims.

“I'm not against DHS coming and removing kids when they're really in danger,” said Michelle Stanley. “But you've got two teenagers who wanted to go to public school, they've been fighting for it for a very long time, and I think that they just took advantage of them.”

Link

It appears that, as is usually the case, there is more to the story than originally reported. Reports of neglect and abuse directly from the children will, and should, draw the attention of the authorities.

Sounds like the two older kids knew what they wanted and how to manipulate things to get it, sadly at a cost to their younger siblings and their parents. It also sounds as if there's no "true" abuse here, other than the older teens not getting their way. In all honesty, they only had to hold out a little longer and they'd be in college with their older siblings, instead of being whining brats kicking up a fuss where it seems there is none. (I use the word seems for now until the full investigation is done. Dad says only HE was using the supplement, then why did son take it to a friend's house and to the coughing routine? My guess? To claim mom and dad force them to take it. Why else would cops confiscate it? Probably to test the kids for it to see if the claim is true.) Ugh idiot kids no matter where you go!