Obama to propose 2 free years of community college

originally posted by: antar
a reply to: burdman30ott6



Heard about this but as a parent I wondered what "working for it" entails? I know that there are limited spots in the workforce at universities and even less at community colleges. CCC Camps on the horizon? Military duty in the new mega city contracts?

I'm sure by the end of the day Alex Jones will have that morphed into some sort of "Obama Youth, compulsory service" scandal... but I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt and say that's just his conversational manner of saying that anyone in the program would be expected to actually keep a minimum GPA and demonstrate that they were doing more than just holding down a desk for 2 years.

a reply to: Khaleesi

I understand where you are coming from. I do. Trade schools are definitely a good thing to go into, but don't discount the universities. Computer science remains a highly demanded field and the demand is only going up. IT is the same way. Every company needs an IT department these days. Actually, I'd say that MOST (not all though) science and math related majors are a good choice to pursue. But it's not like there isn't a demand for a history majors or english majors either.

a reply to: jrod

Again, it isn't free.

And just because money goes towards something else, isn't justification for further theft from some to go to others.


And I am not surprised you are for something, that is given out from the Govt.

a reply to: macman

Is K-12 considered free? 2 more years of education is not that much more, especially considering how much the US spends on the military.

We could just save money and abolish all public schools, that way only the wealthy could afford to get an education via private schools.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

IT is a great field and you really don't have to go to University for that either. My brother-in-law went to Computer Tutors. No degree but it made him eligible to be Microsoft certified. He is now a high level manager in the IT department for the entire state University system. Like I said, it doesn't require college. Trade schools are the way to go imo.

a reply to: jrod

No it isn't free. It is paid by property owners.

And again, with the whole BS line of "well money is spent on this, so why not that". No wonder you are broke.

I also like the "States can opt in if they want but don't have to"

That sounds eerily familiar to "You can keep your own doctor if you want"

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Oh come on. I bet there is no big deal in the state not funding it.

The Federal Govt will just pull bribery...er I mean funding from something else.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I don't see what the big deal is. They are already doing this in TN. It sounds like a good idea in helping the people here.

a reply to: Khaleesi

Yeah, I'm not going to lie, I majored in Comp Sci before getting the IT job that I currently have. You really just need to know a thing or two about computers and can learn the rest on the job.

a reply to: macman

It has nothing to do with money. The US can afford 2 years of college for her citizens. An American can go to Germany or Brazil and go to college for 'free'.

My generations sees the student loan debt = indentured servitude problem. It is shameful when the POTUS tries to do something good for society and the citizens that so many make up ridiculous reasons why it is a bad thing to aid the citizen's education.

I do not think you grasp how the government spends its money. We can afford to maintain an imperialistic standing Army that is paid for by the citizens, we can afford bailouts and tax rebates to some of the largest industries in the world, and you are trying to tell us that the US can not afford this?

Besides free higher education would go against the Republican agenda of keeping everyone stupid.

Truth be told the LEFT doesn't want smart people.

Just like they don't want successful people.

They would essentially wipe out their base.

a reply to: jrod

It has everything to do with money. Honestly, there is no wonder why you don't have any. Your train of thought is the epitome of this generational thinking.

"Well, we spent $100 on shoes. We might as well spend another $100 on a watch. Can't go about without a watch." All the while taking in $50 for that month.

Oh, here is a secret.....we can't afford any of those things you listed as your groundwork.


Tax money is not the Govt money. It was taken from a taxpayer first.

a reply to: neo96

I don't follow you. If the left didn't desire intelligent people then why is it that left leaning areas tend to be better educated than right leaning areas? I mean the bastions of Republicanism (Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, etc) ALL have terrible education standards and demographics. While Democrat bastions have good education level (California, New York, the entirety of New England, etc). So I'm going to have to call bs on your post there. If anything, the RIGHT favors the unintelligent not the left. Doesn't the right often accuse universities of being left leaning indoctrination centers?

But hey, what do I know? I don't like to call myself left or right and I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. Don't let me stand in the way of your partisan snipes.

a reply to: jrod

The US can afford 2 years of college for her citizens

So what part of the current $1.2 trillion dollars student loan debt are some people missing?

Out of that $18 TRILLON dollar debt, and the multiple credit downgrades.

We spend too much, and we have NOTHING to show for it.

Someone needs to tell me where the 'common sense' is in spending thousands of dollars on an 'education' only to end up flipping burgers for 'minimum wage'.

The Obamas' in this country don't make a GD lick of sense.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

If the left didn't desire intelligent people then why is it that left leaning areas tend to be better educated than right leaning areas? I

Pretty much proved that comment.

Everyone knows the LEFT likes to think they are smarter than the RIGHT.

To date NOT A SINGLE one has proven it.

Large price tag? Maybe. But certainly not a larger price tag than perpetual war or poverty though.

a reply to: neo96

Oh nice partisan snipe there. Going strong today neo. Though do let me know when you decide to post some factual information that is worth discussing.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

If the left didn't desire intelligent people then why is it that left leaning areas tend to be better educated than right leaning areas?

Probably because they send their kids to Harvard and Yale.

I mean the bastions of Republicanism (Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, etc) ALL have terrible education standards and demographics.

I bet those "bastions of terrible education standards" are mostly in heavy Democrat voting pockets.

While Democrat bastions have good education level (California, New York, the entirety of New England, etc).

You mean the Ivory Tower Democrat bastions.

a reply to: macman

Not at all.

It is obvious that this thread his devolved into the anti-Obama crowd bashing what is a good proposal for this nation.

What about military spending? What about all the foreign(aka bribes for big industry to do their thing in other countries)?

Why are other countries giving their citizens a decent education, while the American citizen is expected to pay(or get in debt for) more than a year's wages just to get a decent education?


Hopefully someone else can step in and make some valid points on why 2 years of college for the US citizens is good for the nation and our society in general?