French Magazine which portrayed Prophet 10 Dead in Office.

a reply to: DJW001

I know reptilians are always a concern of mine when these events transpire. Perhaps this is an issue that neither of our mighty lists can properly address, for which I'd suggest people attempt picking up the Qur'an for themselves. I mean, if the literature which Muslims consider holy promotes killing non-Muslims then we've got motivation for this event right there.

Qur'an Surah 9 verse 29: 'Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.'

Context to the verse I'll happily provide on request. But simply going on how people would naturally read this passage, it reads as fight those who 'do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful' So what has Allah and Muhammad made unlawful, drawing pictures apparently. Now we each agree with freedom to practice religion I'm assuming, but Islam is the only religion in the world that can't be practiced fully unless Muslims are stopping us from practising our faiths! Religious freedom begins and ends with Islam, for from the moment Islam is practised fully in a place all other beliefs are slowly eradicated. This really isn't a left right issue for me, but I do wonder when the left are going to start acting like the left and stand up to much of this belief system.

a reply to: ipsedixit

It is shaping up to look like a shoe string OP. Robbing a gas station says "hay we didn't plan very well".

Maybe their handlers told them they had to die as heroes if they decided to accept the mission. Couldn't go underground.

Then again they say one of them left his drivers license in the car.......so that was MK-Ultra of just dumbass criminal.

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: ipsedixit

It is shaping up to look like a shoe sting OP. Robbing a gas station says "hay we didn't plan very well".

There's no robbing, they were just spotted at the gas station.

The mention of a robbery is a mistake from misinformed news sources. Go have a look at the french newspaper (quoted earlier) and that'll clear things up.

ETA : another timeline, this time from BFMTV. No robbery

More news from LeMonde's Twitter feed, showing a police vehicle with what looks like a collapsible platform or extension ladder on the back of it. Could this be used to storm the upper floor of a house?

www.lemonde.fr...

(One can read it with Google Translate if necessary.)



LeMonde.fr: @Niko : merci pour votre photo. Senlis, située dans l'Oise, est à proximité de Crépy-en-Valois, où nous savons qu'il y a actuellement un important déploiement policier (avec notamment plusieurs hélicoptères mobilisés) – sans savoir précisément pourquoi, c'est-à-dire si les suspects s'y trouvent.

Translation:

Niko: thank you for your photo. Senlis, situated in the Oise, is close to Crépy-en-Valois, where we know that there is currently a heavy policing (including several helicopters mobilized) - without knowing exactly why that is, say whether the suspects are there.

According to the Twitter feed of Le Figaro, police prevented another gunman from forcing his way into another French publication this morning.

www.lefigaro.fr...

Un homme armé d'un tournevis tente de s'introduire dans les locaux de Valeurs Actuelles
Ce matin, entre 11h et midi, un individu armé d'un tournevis a tenté de s'introduire par une porte de service dans les locaux de Valeurs Actuelles. Deux policiers gardaient l'entrée principale du bâtiment située dans le quartier de la Bourse à Paris. L'homme, surpris en train de forcer la porte, a pris la fuite, vite rattrapé par les policiers. En le fouillant, ceux-ci on découvert plusieurs tournevis sur lui. Il avait également enlevé la batterie de son téléphone portable, technique utilisée pour ne pas se faire repérer par la police en cas de fuite. L'individu, qui viendrait de Belgique est actuellement en garde à vue au commissariat du 2ème arrondissement.

Trois camions de CRS et un barrage anti-émeutes sont sur place pour protéger la rédaction.

Translation:

A man armed with a screwdriver trying to enter the premises of Current Values
This morning between 11am and noon, a gunman with a screwdriver tried to enter through a service door in the premises of Current Values. Two policemen guarding the main entrance of the building located in the Exchange District in Paris. Man caught trying to force the door, took flight, quickly caught by police. By searching, they found several screwdrivers on him. He also removed the battery of his mobile phone, a technique used to not being caught by the police in case of leakage. The individual, who come from Belgium is currently in custody at the police station of the 2nd district.

Three trucks of riot police and anti-riot barricade are in place to protect the editors of the publication.

originally posted by: blupblup
I think South Park sum it up quite nicely.

South park always hitting the nail on the head

I want to know is what are they going to do with that rocket launcher?

They obvious have it for something and haven't used it yet

According to the Figaro Twitter feed, they are doing house to house searches in an area around a town called Longpoint, which is in the Aisne region that was mentioned already. I think the police must be getting a lot of tips from the locals and have to check them out methodically. LeMonde has said that the media still do not know exactly what is going on except that there is a very heavy police presence in the area.

They are doing spot checks on the road near the village of Courcy (in the same area, not the Courcy west of Paris), according to Le Monde.





Apparently teenagers in the area have been tipping off the journalists as to what is going on but the police have clamped down on it.

They are Saying they had only just stop't watching them!

they are ether lying or the bad guys Know what they are doing!
they may have some one in the office who is telling them information.
or they have some one who has Hack't them.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

I don't think you got the essence of my reply.

Nevermind.

Yes! I love it.
some people are fighting back.
ok they are using terrorism back against them.
they are attacking mosques in France.
one used training grenades.

this is good!
as it will Make the Muslims
police there own.
I hope!

French police special forces house to house searches around small towns north-east of Paris (Corcy).



The terrorists are probably hidden somewhere, maybe in a forest, waiting for the night to come.

I just hope the car spotted at the gas station wasn't a diversion, it seems like every man and his dog....and many of the anti terror units have gone up there, a location that Sky news say took them about three hours to get to.

Just hope the two spotted at the gas station are indeed the wanted guys, or that they are all that's left of the terrorist unit.

At least Paris still a huge security ring round it at the moment, I wouldn't want to be taking my eye off that for the moment while the world is looking miles away.

CX.

a reply to: CX

Agreed. Also seems it might be easier to lay low in Paris than in the countryside. It's curious, unless they are trying to reach accomplices/support to get out of France.

I couldnt stand this man...........untill I read what he said on radio today, noway would the whipping boys master come out with anything so bold but true. I feel bad calling him the whipping boy now,


UK Deputy Prime Minster Nick Clegg on his LBC radio phone-in show says in a free country there can be no right not to be offended: "They have killed cartoonists who have done nothing more than draw drawings which they so happen to find offensive. At the end of the day, in a free society people have to be free to offend each other. You cannot have freedom unless people are free to offend each other. We have no right not to be offended. And that fundamental principle of being free to offend people is exactly what was under threat by these murderous barbarians."

originally posted by: OldSchoolContemporary
a reply to: Logarock

I'm glad someone else picked up on that! Let's cover the range of defences and justifications so that we may be able to move on......

* These men were mentally ill.
* Islam means peace.
* All religions are bad.
* Racism.
* Big oil.
* Non-violent Muslims.
* The majority of the victims were Muslim.
* The killers felt insulted.
* The Bible contains violent passages.
* Christians and why the poster hates them.
* Workplace violence.

The above will cover every left leaning liberal post in today's topic.

* People should know the consequences of insulting Muslims.
* Westboro Baptist Church.
* The Pope's views on condoms.
* False flag.
* CIA did it.
* Abortion protestors

a reply to: kamatty
Hmmm...seems like cherry picking. Then why have laws on libel or slander? What of on-line bullying? O real life bullying? We try to stop that....anyways, that's another thread altogether.

originally posted by: kamatty
I couldnt stand this man...........untill I read what he said on radio today, noway would the whipping boys master come out with anything so bold but true. I feel bad calling him the whipping boy now,


UK Deputy Prime Minster Nick Clegg on his LBC radio phone-in show says in a free country there can be no right not to be offended: "They have killed cartoonists who have done nothing more than draw drawings which they so happen to find offensive. At the end of the day, in a free society people have to be free to offend each other. You cannot have freedom unless people are free to offend each other. We have no right not to be offended. And that fundamental principle of being free to offend people is exactly what was under threat by these murderous barbarians."

And....

Being offended is a personal choice.

We all have the right to decide to be offended. We don't have the right to force other people to do anything simply because we choose to be offended by what they do.

Hmm on one side this seems to be exaggerated. Those people should not offend others especially their teacher. It's because none of you believe in Mohammad (PBUH). It would be the same as if this guy were to publish The profit Jesus (3eesa) or Moses (Musa) doing something wrong. or the same act, maybe something sexually obscene. Well then? these people will most likely be placed to civil trial and due to an uproar these people will probably be sent to jail for a long time. However, Muslims see this as a direct insult their very nature. Their actions may be a little over the top, but something needs to be done in order to prevent a picture of lets say the profit Jesus doing something morally inept. I do agree on one thing though, instead of murder.. they should lecture. Isn't it obvious? Romans did a lot worse to those following the book. And in turn, spread the word of Jesus farther than he would have done alone. So those who speak only of hate towards Islam, I invite you to learn why you hate it. Take a lesson or two, point something out that goes against everything you stand for and then grow a dislike. Instead of wrongfully attaching the religion on people. The real value of the religion is in the Holy book The Quran. Read and Understand before you hate and discriminate.

From the live feed of Figaro:

Selon notre journaliste sur place, les forces de sécurité continuent de fouiller Longpont et Corcy, où elles sont présentes en grand nombre et font du porte-à-porte. Selon lui, les habitants sont retranchés chez eux, la ville de Longpont est morte.

Translation:

According to our reporter there, the security forces continue to search Longpont and Corcy, where they are present in large numbers and go door-to-door. According to him, people are entrenched in their homes, the city of Longpont is dead.