Curiosity: Potential Anomalies (2015)

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Char-Lee

Left image.

Right image.

Whatever those dark spots may be, the fact that we see one in a photo and another in the other photo doesn't mean we are seeing the same object photographed by both cameras, I think it's more likely that we are seeing two different dust particles (or whatever), one on each photo, if the cameras take the photo at the same time (it looks like that's what happens) then the object should be moving at an extremely high speed to appear in two different places in two photos that are supposed to have been taken at the same time, and there's no sign of motion blur.

I`m not too sure about the dust thing. I mean there`s nothing else on Mars you could say it was as they don`t have birds or planes so it can only be dust .....or an object.
It seems all too coincidental for me with two different dust particles on those two frames but I`m not too clever in this area so ........?

originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: Char-Lee

not necessarily, a blur would be absent if the exposure was high, do we know what the exposure was ? at time of taking?

Of that photo, not yet, the photos on the PDS, at the moment, go only up to sol 804.

From one of the NavCam photos from sol 803 I got this information:

START_TIME = 2014-11-09T08:17:04.996
STOP_TIME = 2014-11-09T08:17:05.962

so, in this case, the exposure was almost one second, a long exposure.

Also, looking at the same information for the photo from the left camera (the previous one was from the right camera), we can see this:

START_TIME = 2014-11-09T08:17:04.996
STOP_TIME = 2014-11-09T08:17:05.921

so it looks like the left and right photos are really taken at the same time, but they can have different exposures.

simple things like this being absent from NASA's presented picture, tells me these people don't like science much

That's just a side effect of people wanting pretty pictures instead of scientific data. People want to see the pictures and they publish as soon as possible (from what I have seen), without any of the related data that most people would find boring and useless.

That is one of the reasons I wait for the photos to appear on the PDS, as those are processed and have all the related data available.

PS: the images I used were NRB_468792225EDR_F0441282NCAM00253M1.IMG and NLB_468792225EDR_F0441282NCAM00253M1.IMG, found here.

a reply to: funbox

www.abovetopsecret.com...

i thought this bunker looking opening or pixels was interesting.

a reply to: ArMaP

So what does that tell us? Was there dirt on each camera or? I don't really understand.

a reply to: ArMaP

yet again ArMaP your astounding misinterpretation makes a wonderful picture , but not a framed one , more akin to the way information is proffered to us , the picture they paint with their information , in this case im referring to the website .. is captioned information to hard for them to do ? myself, ide just like to right click on a raw file and see all the data. but with all the money spent by them , you would think they would have a website with all of the bell and whistles.

so which site are you getting the science from ?


funbox

a reply to: Char-Lee

cant see very well from them pics , is the sol and cam given?

funbox

originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: Char-Lee

cant see very well from them pics , is the sol and cam given?

funbox

yes I sure hate it when people do not include the links, oh well just another maybe something photo. All i know is it i seems to be the far left top here.
www.jpl.nasa.gov...

while I was waiting for my bet to go through...I thought...haven't been watching at Mars rocks for a while...and was feeling up to it.

Anyway...I'm not up to speed with the thread..so if this was posted...excuse moi.

Can you guys drop an eyeball on these...

Sol 964 -1

Sol 942-2

Lots of weird...dare I say rocks and features. Cant make out anything concrete...but a few interesting ones.

Great Martian Pyramid:

mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: ArMaP

So what does that tell us? Was there dirt on each camera or? I don't really understand.

What it does tell us is that what the photo from the left camera doesn't show the same thing as the photo from the right camera, as both photos are taken at the same time and the position of the objects in both photos are not compatible with it being the same object.

It also tells us that the objects were either moving slowly or stopped, as in a photo that takes one second to be taken any movement would be noticeable.

What it doesn't tell us is what the objects are, but, based on the above, I think the best bet is that they were dust particles or something similar.

a reply to: funbox

Misinterpretation of what? Could you be more specific, to help me avoid misrepresenting any thing?

If you would like to click on a raw file and see all the data then you have to wait until you have a browser compatible with file format used by NASA (and other space agencies), something that, as far as I know, doesn't exist.

but with all the money spent by them , you would think they would have a website with all of the bell and whistles.

Why, so half a dozen people are happy with it?

so which site are you getting the science from ?

If you are talking about the data associated with the photos, the one I posted above, obviously, the PDS Imaging Node, in this case the pages dedicated to the Mars Science Lab mission.

mars.jpl.nasa.gov...







I see like a rope in the side like a bow, or a rope to put that thing in the shoulder...

a reply to: ArMaP

my bad , I thought you was suggesting I was interested in just the pictures ... what im saying is , with all this information scattered within their website and sister sites,

they could produce a application similar to google earth but with a timeline , all the data could then be accessed as you follow the journey .. a similar feel to street view but much better, with all the science accessible within the tiers of the application so , say from satalite view you could access different kinds of data sets (satellite instruments ? ) , whilst down in mars street view you could follow the path of the rover whilst having a 360 degree view , you could have all the data sets associated with time and position of the rover snippets of the chemical analysis of the rocks that where drilled along the way could be instantly accessed , with information from the on-board weather station ,

in my eyes there are far better and more compact ways of relaying info , sadly im not seeing it

If you would like to click on a raw file and see all the data then you have to wait until you have a browser compatible with file format used by NASA (and other space agencies), something that, as far as I know, doesn't exist.

why not download then right click .. o yeah , the jpgs they supply have the data stripped out

funbox

originally posted by: funbox
in my eyes there are far better and more compact ways of relaying info , sadly im not seeing it

The Analyst's Notebook is closer to that.

why not download then right click .. o yeah , the jpgs they supply have the data stripped out

I don't think EXIF data in a JPEG file has all the possibilities the IMG format has on its label area (or external file), in the files from the NavCam that data has more than 500 lines of text.

a reply to: Clonevandal

I dunno, I like the two dogs better. The one with the ears and the one laying its head on the back of the one with the ears. Good boys. Good doggies.

a reply to: ArMaP

I don't understand what I am seeing on this picture? The right side? Part of Curiosity under the dirt?

Sol 29 1642 x 1259
Left
an.rsl.wustl.edu...

a reply to: Char-Lee

hmm not able to access the picture matey , can you download upload ?

funbox

originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: Char-Lee

hmm not able to access the picture matey , can you download upload ?

funbox

Hum it is CX00029NL0030872 F400066545VA
this page
an.rsl.wustl.edu...

Under heading Sol left 29 1642 x 1259
Left
From the main one ArMaP shared
an.rsl.wustl.edu...
I downloaded it not sure what you meant put it somewhere else? I have never used another off site photo site not sure?

a reply to: Char-Lee

The part I marked in red in the image below?


It's part of the photo from the right side used to make that small mosaic.

If you click on the "Product views" menu and then on the "Source products" sub-menu you can see the images used to make the mosaic.


Edited to add that, to get a link to a specific photo on that site, use the "Share" option on the "Action" menu.

a reply to: ArMaP

Ah I see thank you. I find the whole site difficult to use but that's just me i am sure.