White Woman Goes on Shooting Spree, Yet Somehow Isn't Automatically Killed By Police

a reply to: FyreByrd

Could it be she didn't resist? Brown and Garner were killed when they were resisting arrest or they were attacking the cops.

Doesn't take much more than a first grade education to put things into context..

a reply to: DrJunk

Please show me where I stated that the woman was not committing a crime...


The focus is black men.......as the post is about that......good hell. This is not very difficult.

I have made simple statements and posed simple questions.

It may be difficult, but if you go back and actually read what I stated, you might find what I am eluding to...unless you just want to scream racism and go about your attempt at high horse retorts.

originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
I'm well aware of the "21 times" more likely statistic. I'm not denying that. As a whole, however, more white people are killed by police than black people. This is indeed a result of a larger total population of white people, but other factors include the widespread prevalence of "thug" culture among black youth. A culture in which if a black youth applies themselves and strives to rise above the culture that promotes violence and criminal activity, they are ostracized. If you want to solve the problem of black youth being statistically more likely to be killed by police, then first solve the problem of thug culture in black youth. The romanticism of thug culture in black youth in U.S. is a huge problem. Solve that, and you'll see those numbers go down dramatically.

So, we are in agreement then that race is a factor in police shootings?

No, not at all. I'm saying CULTURE is a factor in police shootings. If you're part of a culture that romanticizes violence, criminal behaviour, lack of personal responsibility, etc, then you are more likely to get into violent confrontations with police. White people can fall into the "thug culture" trap as well. Race doesn't matter, the culture does, and THAT'S the problem. Skin color doesn't matter to most people in the U.S. today, and matters less and less with every new generation of America.

I guess I need to really get this going by suggesting blacks are just not as good at being criminals as white people are. A good criminal knows when to surrender and fight again another day a bad criminal well you get suicide by cop.

I wonder what her criminal record is compared to the 2 blacks that committed suicide by cop??

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

It was very enlightening for me to read your stereotypical and negative descriptions of black youth.

Thank you for openly admitting to your real pov. It makes it so much easier for me to understand why stats, numbers and plain facts do not tell you much.

originally posted by: th2356
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

It was very enlightening for me to read your stereotypical and negative descriptions of black youth.

Thank you for openly admitting to your real pov. It makes it so much easier for me to understand why stats, numbers and plain facts do not tell you much.

If you want to subtly accuse me of racism that's on you. My multitudes of Japanese, Native American, and Black friends would disagree with you, of course, but if you want to make a sweeping judgement of a person based on a few posts by someone, I would kindly ask that you point that high-powered perception back at yourself and ask why you're qualified to make generalizations of someone based on such little info. Seems like something a textbook racist would do. Interesting.

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: DrJunk

Please show me where I stated that the woman was not committing a crime...

I can't. Because your omission was the distinction.

I've reread your posts. If you have a simple question, please re-ask it, or I am simply going to assume you are trying to make some kind of point that I'm not getting.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgunNo, not at all. I'm saying CULTURE is a factor in police shootings. If you're part of a culture that romanticizes violence, criminal behaviour, lack of personal responsibility, etc, then you are more likely to get into violent confrontations with police. White people can fall into the "thug culture" trap as well. Race doesn't matter, the culture does, and THAT'S the problem. Skin color doesn't matter to most people in the U.S. today, and matters less and less with every new generation of America.

If that were the case, and white people also fall into the "thug culture" demographic, then why is there a spike in black killings by police?

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I do not accuse you of anything. I don't have to, your posts speaks very clearly for themselves.

I find also find it very funny that you accuse me of making generalizations. What about your own stereotyping and generealization when it comes to black youth? Those generalizations are OK, I suppose?

Thanks for the laugh.

originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: ScientificRailgunNo, not at all. I'm saying CULTURE is a factor in police shootings. If you're part of a culture that romanticizes violence, criminal behaviour, lack of personal responsibility, etc, then you are more likely to get into violent confrontations with police. White people can fall into the "thug culture" trap as well. Race doesn't matter, the culture does, and THAT'S the problem. Skin color doesn't matter to most people in the U.S. today, and matters less and less with every new generation of America.

If that were the case, and white people also fall into the "thug culture" demographic, then why is there a spike in black killings by police?

Nice baiting question. The answer is obvious, of course. And I'll even bite. The culture is prevalent among black youth, for the MOST part. But again, the race is isn't problem, it's the culture. And people who CONTINUE to say it's just racism without blaming the REAL culprit of culture are the ones who are part of the problem. If you want to make changes to the amount of young black men killed by police, stop just crying racism and fix the culture within the black community. If the police killings continue, THEN you can cry racism.

originally posted by: th2356
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I do not accuse you of anything. I don't have to, your posts speaks very clearly for themselves.

I find also find it very funny that you accuse me of making generalizations. What about your own stereotyping and generealization when it comes to black youth? Those generalizations are OK, I suppose?

Thanks for the laugh.

How am I stereotyping, exactly? By saying that there's a problem of thug culture in black youth? It's a simple truth. Do all young black people fall into this stereotype? Not at all. A great many of young black people speak out AGAINST this thug culture, and I applaud them for it. A great many of black people have risen above this culture and become successful people. In fact, I'd say it's rather a minority of black people who embrace this culture, but it is statistically significant. You assume I'm making statements of the entire black community, which I am not at all implying.

That being said, I'm glad I could give you a chuckle.

a reply to: DrJunk

Soooo, assuming seems to be your strong suit.

I guess that you really need to address why you hate kittens so much....and have never taken a stand on people murdering them.


Why do you support kitten murder?

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
Nice baiting question. The answer is obvious, of course. And I'll even bite. The culture is prevalent among black youth, for the MOST part. But again, the race is isn't problem, it's the culture. And people who CONTINUE to say it's just racism without blaming the REAL culprit of culture are the ones who are part of the problem. If you want to make changes to the amount of young black men killed by police, stop just crying racism and fix the culture within the black community. If the police killings continue, THEN you can cry racism.

How about, since we can't go forward in time, we go backward to a time before "thug culture"?

Can you provide me with any information to back up that there has ever been a time in the history of the United States when black people were not killed by police at noteworthy higher percentage than white people? I haven't been able to find one. So, if it was happening, before thug culture, could thug culture itself be a product of oppression instead of the other way around?

Is that a possibility you are even willing to consider?

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: DrJunk

Soooo, assuming seems to be your strong suit.

I guess that you really need to address why you hate kittens so much....and have never taken a stand on people murdering them.


Why do you support kitten murder?

Was that really your simple question? That's easy.I think cats are the one of the most vile animals that people let into their homes, and if there was a button I could push to kill every domesticated house cat with no personal repercussions, I can't say that I wouldn't think about it.

originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
Nice baiting question. The answer is obvious, of course. And I'll even bite. The culture is prevalent among black youth, for the MOST part. But again, the race is isn't problem, it's the culture. And people who CONTINUE to say it's just racism without blaming the REAL culprit of culture are the ones who are part of the problem. If you want to make changes to the amount of young black men killed by police, stop just crying racism and fix the culture within the black community. If the police killings continue, THEN you can cry racism.

How about, since we can't go forward in time, we go backward to a time before "thug culture"?

Can you provide me with any information to back up that there has ever been a time in the history of the United States when black people were not killed by police at noteworthy higher percentage than white people? I haven't been able to find one. So, if it was happening, before thug culture, could thug culture itself be a product of oppression instead of the other way around?

Is that a possibility you are even willing to consider?

Of course I'm willing to consider that, and it's entirely likely that is exactly the case, but does that EXCUSE the culture? Does that justify the culture somehow? Are we supposed to just sit back and allow it to continue because there are scars from the past, or do we move FORWARD toward a brighter future together, hand in hand?

EDIT: I have to go do some maintenance on a server here in my office. Do not think I'm ignoring you, I'll respond as soon as I am able.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
Of course I'm willing to consider that, and it's entirely likely that is exactly the case, but does that EXCUSE the culture? Does that justify the culture somehow? Are we supposed to just sit back and allow it to continue because there are scars from the past, or do we move FORWARD toward a brighter future together, hand in hand?

Scars from the past? Black people are still being killed at a rate of 21 times that of white people.

How exactly is this a scar of the past and not an open festering wound that has never healed?

EDIT: I have to go do some maintenance on a server here in my office. Do not think I'm ignoring you, I'll respond as soon as I am able.

No rush. Without us techies of the world, we wouldn't be talking at all.

a reply to: DrJunk

I agree. I hate cats also.


Now, how about all of those poor innocent orphans.....we have you not come out against child fight clubs in day cares?


Or......child sex trafficking.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I guess if black people had just respected the law of the land and not behaved in an ill-mannered fashion towards whites there might have been fewer lynchings as well? If they'd only thought to change their "culture" the lynchings would have stopped.

a reply to: macman

I'm sure you have a point, will you please just get to it?

The charade is boring.

a reply to: DrJunk

Just because you don't come out against something.......doesn't mean anything..


Sooooo....me not stating at the beginning, that the white woman was committing a crime, infers nothing...except to those like you that like to race bait and scream racism.

But, stats don't lie....neither does the evidence.

All of these past instances are black males, acting in a criminal manner where LE gets involved and has a bad ending...

And until you can provide answers to the questions I posed....like what your results are of the your forensic report...you have nothing other then race hustling.