White Woman Goes on Shooting Spree, Yet Somehow Isn't Automatically Killed By Police

a reply to: macman

This thread is not about innocent orphants, child fight clubs or child sex trafficking. Or are you suggesting that since these awful things happen, it is OK that young black males are far more likely to be killed by US police than young white males? Add several wrongs together, and you end up with one big right ?

Sort out the confusion in your head and try again.

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: DrJunk

Just because you don't come out against something.......doesn't mean anything..


Sooooo....me not stating at the beginning, that the white woman was committing a crime, infers nothing...except to those like you that like to race bait and scream racism.

It does when this thread is about a white woman not being shot by police and all you want to talk about is how the black men that were shot were committing crimes. It's actually a pretty important omission.

And until you can provide answers to the questions I posed....like what your results are of the your forensic report...you have nothing other then race hustling.

What forensic report? Do you believe, or have I given an indication that I am a forensic pathologist? You are mistaken.

Could you define "race hustling" for me, please?

originally posted by: th2356
a reply to: macman

This thread is not about innocent orphants, child fight clubs or child sex trafficking. Or are you suggesting that since these awful things happen, it is OK that young black males are far more likely to be killed by US police than young white males? Add several wrongs together, and you end up with one big right ?

Sort out the confusion in your head and try again.

What other variables do you believe MAY contribute to suspects being shot, other than the skin color of the suspects and police?

originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: DrJunk

Please show me where I stated that the woman was not committing a crime...

I can't. Because your omission was the distinction.

I've reread your posts. If you have a simple question, please re-ask it, or I am simply going to assume you are trying to make some kind of point that I'm not getting.

Two simple questions:

1) What variables, other than race, do you think MAY affect a suspect being shot?

2) What data do you have to measure these variables in a way to determine their weighting on the results of suspects being shot?

Examples:

-resisting arrest
-prior criminal record
-time of day/night
-age
-gender
-geographic location of incident

That should help you get started. What weighting do you feel each contributes to suspects being shot?

Yeah, this is a clear example of racism, right?



Honestly, I think I may retire from online forums. The liberal BS machine is a beast run amok at this point. The whole country appears to be infected with this braindead madness.

a reply to: Jamie1

Thanks for your input.

Maybe Antonio Martin was killed because he pointed this black gun at a cop from 3 feet away.

originally posted by: DrJunk
a reply to: Jamie1

Thanks for your input.

What? As smart as you are, you can't come up with any variables, other than white racism, that lead to suspects being shot?

Really?

it's not that hard. How about this variable: Suspect fails to drop weapon or aims weapon at cop. That variable may have more weighting in Antonio Martin and Tamir Rice being shot.

a reply to: Jamie1

Thank you for your input.

I am not interested in discussing this topic with you.

originally posted by: Jamie1

originally posted by: DrJunk

a reply to: Jamie1



Thanks for your input.

Suspect fails to drop weapon or aims weapon at cop. That variable may have more weighting in Antonio Martin and Tamir Rice being shot.

Ok genius, the 12 yr old was shot while the police car was still moving practically..give me a break..the child did not even get the time to proccess a command.
I also wonder how many times the white woman was ordered to drop her weapon..I honestly do not know..you should as your using it as part of your argument..so?

No question about Martin..he clearly asked for it.

To be clear I do not know if this incident has anything to do with race..could be better training/policy/location.

Without incident and without injury is suspiciously due to the fact that she's a middle aged white woman with a gun and not an unarmed black teenager.

It may also be that the arresting cops in question effectively used their TRAINING to deal with such situations, instead of just automatically pulling a gun, which seems to be the reaction of many cops that don't apply training.

We have two cops in our family, both at least ten year veterans, neither of whom have ever had to pull their guns.

a reply to: th2356

Try to keep up. Go back and please read what I have posted in reference to this.

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: DrJunk



Cool story bro!!!





SO, since as you basically state, I can't prove it wasn't race motivated.....seems that you can't prove that any of the recent incidents ARE race motivated.





And again, much like the race pimps Sharpton (who should go pay his taxes instead of trying to be in the spotlight) and Jackson (who also has other personal issue he should focus on), you and they will continue the "poor me" victim card, and proclaim anything you don't like as racist.



I bet you have deemed this racist as well.....Recent Shooting



And just as the Gardner case, a criminal, known criminal that resisted arrest, who had asthma, the death was not race motivated. Seems that De Blazio pushed LE to crack down on the illegal actions of Gardner just days before.



Hmmmm....Progressive Mayor, pushing Progressive laws, backed by Progressive taxes, sets up the incident for a person to die while enforcing said laws.



Interesting.

i respect your opinion for a while now and agree with much of your post but you spread a lie by saying gardner resisted. it really takes away from your whole stance if you claim that and as for brown yes he attackeed a cop and that warrented the cop defending himself at the car and if he would have taken his life at the car it would be justified but instead he chased him down firing at his back brown then turned around and put hands up and got on his knees then was shot in the head then he got up and walked a few more steps and fell dead. the blood trail prooves this cause the trail was thin until the point where he was hit in the head it got thick for the last 25 ft.

originally posted by: DrJunk


It does when this thread is about a white woman not being shot by police and all you want to talk about is how the black men that were shot were committing crimes. It's actually a pretty important omission.

And until we have ALL the facts......we have exactly that. Your opinion based on maybe half of the story.

originally posted by: DrJunk
What forensic report? Do you believe, or have I given an indication that I am a forensic pathologist? You are mistaken.

Ohhh, so you don't have special insight into this incident....but automagically can deem it as a race issue. Fascinating.

originally posted by: DrJunk
Could you define "race hustling" for me, please?

Take what you do, in regards to race, add bold the ignorance involved in statements like yours, sprinkle a little bit ego and there you go. Race hustling.

For an example....go watch any video involved with Jackson or Sharpton....they are the kings of this.

a reply to: deadeyedick

So, Gardner complied, turned around, put his hands behind his back and followed the officers orders?

originally posted by: DrJunk

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

I seriously doubt that any cop looked at this woman and thought: "Oh, she's white, better not shoot her."



More likely they thought "How can we end this without anyone else getting hurt." Now if the cops in the Garner case had done the same mental assessment, maybe Garner would still be alive. However; to say this case is racially motivated is doing a serious disservice to memory of those who have died at the hands of GENUINE racism.

I agree that they probably wanted to end this without a loss of life to the suspect. The question is why are white people overwhelmingly given that consideration when approached by police to the detriment, and death, of black people in the same scenarios?



Could race be a factor?

i think there are many factors.
who if your life was on the line would you rather fight to the death with if you were forced too? A small white woman or a large black man? tv and music has much to do with the programming of peoples views and it is a fine line because i know very many scary looking people that would help a stranger way before a so called normal person would.

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: deadeyedick



So, Gardner complied, turned around, put his hands behind his back and followed the officers orders?

honestly they did not give him a chance to resist or comply. it really is that simple in that case.

originally posted by: macman
Ohhh, so you don't have special insight into this incident....but automagically can deem it as a race issue. Fascinating.

Nope. Go back through our discussion, your initial comment to me was based on the idea that I thought it was interesting that I see the same white people declaring that nothing is ever about race. Where do these people get their information that nothing is ever about race?

You should be asking them these questions, not me.

Take what you do, in regards to race, add bold the ignorance involved in statements like yours, sprinkle a little bit ego and there you go. Race hustling.

For an example....go watch any video involved with Jackson or Sharpton....they are the kings of this.

Your definition leaves a lot to be desired and is verging on nonsensical. If pointing out and drawing attention to racism is "race-hustling", then I guess I'm guilty.

So now what? How do we stop racism?

a reply to: macman

I have alrealy read your posts and seen all your redundant punctuation marks. I don't need to see them again to know that you make little sense to me. That is what I asked you the question about how several wrong things seem to add up to everything being OK in your mind.

I accept that you don't want to answer my question. Carry on and best of luck.

a reply to: deadeyedick

They stated he was under arrest. Very simple.....there is no "5 second rule" when given a lawful command.

Gardner did not comply. So, that is the very basis of resisting arrest.


Brown...attacked a LEO and was shot for doing so.