The God is Real Thread

originally posted by: paradox
This is such an amazing thing to hear. I was a very aggressive atheist until a year ago when I sought the truth and God spoke to me. It truly is a very life changing and personality altering experience that those who do not seek will never understand. All glory to God.

I consider myself a hopeful agnostic. I don't know if there is a God, but I would like for there to be one - as long as He is truly kind, loving and generous.

I wonder why God has never spoken to me? Do I have to be doing something special? Or does it happen when you are sitting around watching TV or cooking dinner?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
I wonder why God has never spoken to me? Do I have to be doing something special? Or does it happen when you are sitting around watching TV or cooking dinner?

It happened to me, out of the blue, while I was driving my car. Nearly drove off the road! Totally unexpected.

You do get to choose what you experience. Every experience you have you have chosen. You have created every moment in your life. a reply to: windword

Why not HER GLORY?God is not a man or a woman. a reply to: OpinionatedB

Yours is one way but not the only way by any means. a reply to: SniperSmiley

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

I agree to some extent. I see it more like this, we sign up for a class on a subject that we would like to learn more about, or a take on some challenge we would like to meet. The lesson plan, the pop-quizes, and essay questions are pre-determined, but not necessarily by us.

I have a nagging memory, that I already know the answer to something very important, but I can't remember what the question was .

a reply to: kaylaluv

No you don't have to be doing anything special. But when HE speaks, its good to be listening. This is not to say stop your normal life, just pay attention to the small quiet voice. Its quiet at first, but when you learn more about it, it gets louder.

The first time I heard HIM HE was trying to save my life.. and I was busy telling HIM no.. HE had to yell at me.. lol. then, when finally listening resulted in certain life instead of certain death.. I knew what HE sounded like.

He didn't talk often to me when I was a Muslim, but HE did talk a couple/few times. It was becoming Christian that has changed all that now, HE really does talk to me all the time.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Its an androgynous being, and when you hear HIS voice it is more masculine sounding, although there is no sex attached... it does seem more respectful than saying "it" anyway.

Which God are we talking about? The lesser, demented God of the Bible or the ALL there is?

Want to see THE ALL , go look in the mirror. Want to feel the ALL go sit in some quiet space and sink into stillness, all your answers come from inside.

There are things that not even Gods realize, but you can with humility and gratitude. You are an Avatar. You are the ALL. PEACE.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I can tell the difference between the voice of God, and the voice of the Holy Spirit. At least, there is a difference for me. The Holy Spirit is slightly quieter, and is more like a peaceful comforting friend who talks to you.

I cannot feel any difference inside though, between God, HIS Holy Spirit, and Jesus. They all feel like God. But they have different roles, and seem to come across differently.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Hi Kayla,
I can assure you that God speaks to you all the time, but what made my experience life changing is the realization He gave me to discern His voice. It's not something explainable but I can tell you it's real. I came to Him broken and hopeless and he has picked me up and molded me and my life into something I would have never thought possible. It may not look like much on the outside, but to me it's like night and day. A very personal experience. If you seek God with all of your heart, you will find Him. Listen to the small voice inside you and always follow it.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Every one of us is connected to all and everything in that at the base of it all we are only energy that is holding the shape of people and things and that at that level there really are no boundaries.
Science and religion are closing the gap. We as people want to know our purpose and we want to understand the mechanics of creation. Quantum physics is revealing more mysterious actions every day and it points to an intelligent director in these actions.

What a lovely post. I applaud you; perfectly stated. I'm an agnostic/deist. But I studied Wicca for years, and a lot of that has stuck the landing.

Namaste.

a reply to: Klassified

But many Xtians have this tendency to believe they're right, and everyone else be damned. That's what I was addressing. I'm all for spirituality, but not to the exclusion of other peoples spiritual experiences, because they don't line up with Xtian doctrine or beliefs.

Yes.

About 30 years ago I suffered horrible panic attacks. And one night on the road, I 'felt' a presence touch me reassuringly, and I 'heard' a (feminine? or androgynous, maybe) voice say: "You will be fine. You aren't going to do that, because you don't want to. You want to live."

At that time my attacks revolved around fearing that if scissors or knives were in my vicinity, I would use them to impale my heart and end my own life. Or, that I would deliberately swerve off of a road and plunge to my death. (I still have nightmares about that second scenario).

In retrospect, I see much more clearly. I had gotten into some trouble a few years earlier, a situation that I felt terribly guilty about, even though all things were being addressed and I was toeing the line toward moving past it.....

My self-imposed "guilt" was causing me to panic about what I might do 'to myself'. I got help, and began studying panic disorder, and eventually became a counselor myself.

Was it 'the Holy Spirit' speaking to me? 'God'? I don't know. It was an inner voice - an internal compass.

Many years later I was invited to hear Judy Goodman give a lecture. She is a 'seer' , and she said what you said: when we 'pass' beyond the veil in death, we 'meet' an entity that 'fits our expectation' - but for EVERY culture or belief system, that entity is relevant to the beliefs the new arrival held in life.

a reply to: Rex282

There is no doctrine of religion more vile and destructive as that of the eternal punishment of hell…in any form.

The fact is the creator God is going to “deliver” ALL of mankind from Hades(the realm of death and imperception…religion).The majority of mankind will not be delivered at all from their BS religion in the physical realm life.

Yep. That ^^^

I'm happy for windword, too. Sometimes I clash with people who had wonderful, supportive, encouraging religious upbringings. I know my mother tried to give me that; it was MY PERCEPTIONS of how the stories were told to me (while kneeling before the altar OR attending Sunday School) that turned me off.

All I heard was fantasy stories of 'miracles' (of the formula type easily found in any 'young readers' library section) and that I was unworthy.

I realize now that this is NOT what happens to everyone. But it happened to me, and windword. And our experience is EVERY BIT AS VALID as anyone else's. Religion is, IMO, a problem in our world.

a reply to: windword

You miss the point. Just because someone says they had a religious experience and claims to now know the truth, doesn't mean that that experience is going to apply to and be a valid fit for everyone.

Exactly.

It's an individual journey for everyone. There is no one-size-fits-all religion out there. Many ways up to the summit, each in our own unique fashion. And that's how it's SUPPOSED to be, and was INTENDED to be.

Yet some insist on claiming "only THIS path will get you there!".

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Yours is one way but not the only way by any means. a reply to: SniperSmiley

I seek new paths every day, I do not know the best course, but I am impatient. If something shows to be faster and still good, I switch my course in an instant, and completely. Because God is Good. His justice is swift, and exact. I have walked the wrong path too many times to know. I now see the Light of God, The Path of The Lamb?!?!?!?

I'm sorry...from the sounds of it, you were a very staunch muslim before you became a very staunch christian. i strongly feel the transition suggests its own misgiving. how do we know you are not wrong now? i also feel that the evidence which compelled you to trade islam for christianity is remarkably ambiguous. many muslims have shared similar stories when they converted from christianity. its almost like they are all the same story, and it just sounds so good they keep using it.

so tell me, did you save 15% by switching to geico?

The creator most certainly is real.

back when I was a teenager I had someone come to me physically (appeared right in my living/dining room)
that was a divine being,
and left me with no doubt God is real,
cares and pays attention to what we do.
He never left a name, but he sure did look like the classical picture of Jesus,
and there was NO DOUBT in my soul that this was a divine being.

My path has been different. I don't follow modern religion, but I was told that is ok,
that we all walk paths that return to the creator, and that it is what is in a man/woman's heart and soul that matters, not what book they follow. We are free to chose what we take away from our learning experience here on earth, but in the end, we will be looked at for what we have done and experienced here. We judge ourselves.

People have a misconception that God is an angry God, but that is not the god I experienced that day, nor is it the god I experience every day in my life just by living and knowing that the creator is real.

s&f

I wish more people could experience the creator and his love,
because once you do, no matter what happens, you know in the end everything will work out just fine.

This proves that faith and truth in religion is very subjective if you can switch back and forth.How do you know it is god or just your conscious mind having conflict.

Cognitive dissonance is central to many forms of persuasion to change beliefs, values, attitudes and behaviors. The tension can be injected suddenly or allowed to build up over time. People can be moved in many small jumps or one large one.

You changed your beliefs in one big jump and reduced your cognitive dissonance to a great extent.

This is why people change from being Muslim to Christian, Christian to Muslim, Christian to Atheist, Atheist to Christian. We are all trying to find a consonance within ourselves.

originally posted by: celticdog
This proves that faith and truth in religion is very subjective if you can switch back and forth.How do you know it is god or just your conscious mind having conflict.

Cognitive dissonance is central to many forms of persuasion to change beliefs, values, attitudes and behaviors. The tension can be injected suddenly or allowed to build up over time. People can be moved in many small jumps or one large one.

You changed your beliefs in one big jump and reduced your cognitive dissonance to a great extent.

This is why people change from being Muslim to Christian, Christian to Muslim, Christian to Atheist, Atheist to Christian. We are all trying to find a consonance within ourselves.

In your world view, shifting paradigms are part of cognitive dissonance?

3/4 of the people on this thread indicate a belief in the supernatural and that belief is hardwired in our brains. What are we dissonant of in our physical makeup?

Why are you so dismissive of an experience that you have never had? I will guarantee you that you have experienced the supernatural but you didn't want others to feel you were stupid so you passed it off, you don't want people to think you are crazy so you say others are who do acknowledge the supernatural.

But let's see how the supernatural is...and if you can explain it.

1:Mothers feel their children in pain and yet their children are many miles away.
2:Identical twins feel each other even though they have grown up in different families.
3:Men feel empathetic pregnancies for their wives.
4:Remote viewing is accepted by the government and used for spying, because it works.
5:You hear a song moments before it plays on the radio.
6eople know a person is calling them, just before the person calls.

All of these and more have been reported, measured by scientists and accepted as real phenomenon. But yet, only the skeptic chooses not to believe God exists and yet cannot explain these supernatural experiences. What is more crazy?

Let me tell you what crazy is, a scientist who says that a sun or planet in our solar system is invisible, and yet God can't be real because He is invisible. Now explain that cognitive dissonance.