Brother-in-Law has Pancreatic cancer that's spread to liver, here's the alternative Regimine I got

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: Pardon?

Every single one of your responses is straight out of woo 101.
Dodge, dodge, denial, testimony, dodge.

science isn't studying "woo" yet, but they will eventually. Some things are compartmentalized and divided, things that can only be discussed philosophically, but cannot be measured or observed scientifically, or psychology/psychiatry (like the whole structure of the subconscious which has been discussed in various spiritual philosophies for millenia, has yet to be quantified scientifically). Its cool though, once your shell dissolves, you'll see in the here after that a bunch of woo is truth, give it some decades and you'll see.

I'll repeat again, if something works and is reproducible then it can easily be proven, subjective or not.

Okay, prove the present moment then, which is already gone, and cannot be repeated. Or tell me the truth of this sentence: ("This sentence is false.") as far as science, logic, reason is concerned.

And please try to understand what proof actually is.
Proof is not a post on a thread on a conspiracy site. However much you want it to be.

Proof is relative. I have direct proof, for myself, that I have access to my own subconscious. but that's not enough for you. Like I said, give a few decades, you'll get a nice surprise that will expand the limited box you live in now

That post was too many words for "I can't prove nor provide any evidence that what I say works".
Proving something philosophically and proving something scientifically are two very different things.

As I've said several times now if what you do works and can be reproduced it can be proven with minimal effort.
If it doesn't then it can't.
Since you keep on dodging I will suggest that you fall into the "it can't" bracket.

I've heard exactly the same from too many people like you.
And guess what, none of what they did worked either.

a reply to: Pardon?

That post was too many words for "I can't prove nor provide any evidence that what I say works".
Proving something philosophically and proving something scientifically are two very different things.

Some things are limited to science, others to philosophy, others to math, others to anthropology, others to psychology, others to direct experience......are you seeing the pattern yet?

Life is more than just want science can or can't prove.

As I've said several times now if what you do works and can be reproduced it can be proven with minimal effort.

As I said before, plenty of things in life, can't be reproduced, they are one shots, or what science calls anomalies.

If it doesn't then it can't.
Since you keep on dodging I will suggest that you fall into the "it can't" bracket.

Your black and white glasses fail to see the grey in between.

I've heard exactly the same from too many people like you.
And guess what, none of what they did worked either.

Since my faith is 100% absolute, I will post his cancer free papers when he gets his scans and their clear. THere are other ats'ers who have cured their cancers alternatively. You can search them yourself

a reply to: dominicus

We don't know everything, therefore magic.

Sound reasoning there

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: Pardon?

That post was too many words for "I can't prove nor provide any evidence that what I say works".
Proving something philosophically and proving something scientifically are two very different things.

Some things are limited to science, others to philosophy, others to math, others to anthropology, others to psychology, others to direct experience......are you seeing the pattern yet?

Life is more than just want science can or can't prove.

As I've said several times now if what you do works and can be reproduced it can be proven with minimal effort.

As I said before, plenty of things in life, can't be reproduced, they are one shots, or what science calls anomalies.

If it doesn't then it can't.
Since you keep on dodging I will suggest that you fall into the "it can't" bracket.

Your black and white glasses fail to see the grey in between.

I've heard exactly the same from too many people like you.
And guess what, none of what they did worked either.

Since my faith is 100% absolute, I will post his cancer free papers when he gets his scans and their clear. THere are other ats'ers who have cured their cancers alternatively. You can search them yourself

Yes I am seeing a pattern.
One of dodging.

One-offs are indeed one off. That is true.
You've said that you've done this several times therefore it's not a one off.
Therefore it is, according to you, reproducible.
Therefore it can be proven.
Your last sentence also contradicts that. How can you have 100% faith in a one-off?

If he (hopefully) becomes cancer free, how will you determine that it's your magical abilities that have cured him and not the real treatment which he's already had?
That's a rhetorical question as you will just attribute any positives to your magic without offering evidence, as you've been doing all the way through this thread.

As for other posters curing themselves, I can't find one single example which has proven that the alternative treatment has been the curative therapy.
PROVE me wrong.

a reply to: Pardon?
Boo, Hiss.
Second

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: Pardon?

That post was too many words for "I can't prove nor provide any evidence that what I say works".
Proving something philosophically and proving something scientifically are two very different things.

Some things are limited to science, others to philosophy, others to math, others to anthropology, others to psychology, others to direct experience......are you seeing the pattern yet?

Life is more than just want science can or can't prove.

As I've said several times now if what you do works and can be reproduced it can be proven with minimal effort.

As I said before, plenty of things in life, can't be reproduced, they are one shots, or what science calls anomalies.

If it doesn't then it can't.
Since you keep on dodging I will suggest that you fall into the "it can't" bracket.

Your black and white glasses fail to see the grey in between.

I've heard exactly the same from too many people like you.
And guess what, none of what they did worked either.

Since my faith is 100% absolute, I will post his cancer free papers when he gets his scans and their clear. THere are other ats'ers who have cured their cancers alternatively. You can search them yourself

Yes I am seeing a pattern.
One of dodging.

One-offs are indeed one off. That is true.
You've said that you've done this several times therefore it's not a one off.
Therefore it is, according to you, reproducible.
Therefore it can be proven.
Your last sentence also contradicts that. How can you have 100% faith in a one-off?

If he (hopefully) becomes cancer free, how will you determine that it's your magical abilities that have cured him and not the real treatment which he's already had?
That's a rhetorical question as you will just attribute any positives to your magic without offering evidence, as you've been doing all the way through this thread.

As for other posters curing themselves, I can't find one single example which has proven that the alternative treatment has been the curative therapy.
PROVE me wrong.

Here's the thing. Science does not know what consciousness is yet, what the human spirit is, what will power is. Get it yet? You are limiting human nature. The Spirit and Will power of a Being to survive against all odds has an effect on the the situation in a variety of unforeseen ways, that science has yet to quantify. You observing atoms, double slit experiment, effects them.

GO read some stories on the power of Human Will to survive, and you will find miracles happening. This is why I don't see eye to eye with you, because I have seen this Will To Live overcome astronomical odds in others and in me. Life really is magical, alive, conscious, infinite.......you just don't see with the same eyes that I do, the one's that are in my heart and in my gut

a reply to: dominicus

Interesting story, we have a psychic in the Family, a second or third Aunt I guess you can say, and every once in a while she contacts me and my sister via text message to give the latest visions, then disappears for months at a time before hearing back from her. So sometime towards the end of August 2014, she sent me and my sister text messages that she see's all black around my Brother-inLaws stomach and to go get it checked out.

He was starting to get pain there even prior to the psychic vision, it became excruciating and he went to the hospital where they scanned him and eventually they find Pancreatic cancer spread to the liver.

Sorry if this has already been addressed but it several pages in and I got up to page 5 and didn't see an answer for this question so here it goes.

If your aunt is psychic then why didn't she tune in/predict or whatever they do before he was in such pain that he was already diagnosed? Isn't that a bit suspicious? Do you really think it is a good idea to take advice from a source like that?

originally posted by: dominicus

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: Pardon?

That post was too many words for "I can't prove nor provide any evidence that what I say works".
Proving something philosophically and proving something scientifically are two very different things.

Some things are limited to science, others to philosophy, others to math, others to anthropology, others to psychology, others to direct experience......are you seeing the pattern yet?

Life is more than just want science can or can't prove.

As I've said several times now if what you do works and can be reproduced it can be proven with minimal effort.

As I said before, plenty of things in life, can't be reproduced, they are one shots, or what science calls anomalies.

If it doesn't then it can't.
Since you keep on dodging I will suggest that you fall into the "it can't" bracket.

Your black and white glasses fail to see the grey in between.

I've heard exactly the same from too many people like you.
And guess what, none of what they did worked either.

Since my faith is 100% absolute, I will post his cancer free papers when he gets his scans and their clear. THere are other ats'ers who have cured their cancers alternatively. You can search them yourself

Yes I am seeing a pattern.
One of dodging.

One-offs are indeed one off. That is true.
You've said that you've done this several times therefore it's not a one off.
Therefore it is, according to you, reproducible.
Therefore it can be proven.
Your last sentence also contradicts that. How can you have 100% faith in a one-off?

If he (hopefully) becomes cancer free, how will you determine that it's your magical abilities that have cured him and not the real treatment which he's already had?
That's a rhetorical question as you will just attribute any positives to your magic without offering evidence, as you've been doing all the way through this thread.

As for other posters curing themselves, I can't find one single example which has proven that the alternative treatment has been the curative therapy.
PROVE me wrong.

Here's the thing. Science does not know what consciousness is yet, what the human spirit is, what will power is. Get it yet? You are limiting human nature. The Spirit and Will power of a Being to survive against all odds has an effect on the the situation in a variety of unforeseen ways, that science has yet to quantify. You observing atoms, double slit experiment, effects them.

GO read some stories on the power of Human Will to survive, and you will find miracles happening. This is why I don't see eye to eye with you, because I have seen this Will To Live overcome astronomical odds in others and in me. Life really is magical, alive, conscious, infinite.......you just don't see with the same eyes that I do, the one's that are in my heart and in my gut

Still dodging.
Science may not know about the examples you listed (actually it knows a LOT about them...) but it does know that what you're force-feeding your brother-in-law doesn't work.

Will power doesn't cure cancer.
It might help you quit smoking or go on a diet which could help you prevent cancer but cure it?
No.
Show me one verifiable case where this has happened.
Or will you dodge this as well?

If one of the "therapies" you are plying onto your brother-in-law has an adverse effect on his current medication will you take responsibility for that?
Or will you just blame it on "the wrong vibrations in the spiritual plane".
Will you be held accountable for anything adverse that happens to him?
If not, I suggest you stop a playing a doctor straight away.

Typical woo.
Typical DANGEROUS and DELUDED woo.

a reply to: dominicus

Hello dominocus. ... Hope your brother in law is doing ok .?. I haven't got much advise for you or your bro in law except say positive as much as you can ... Your doing the right thing trying everything you can to help him get through this terrible illness ... Don't let anyone tell you that only the recommended therapy works because that's all bs !!!! I'm still cancer free an never been so healthy 😄 ive been reading what pardon has been sayin an he's not helping you one bit babbling crap about nothing beats cancer !!! He's asked you to show him one thread that's shows alternative cures have worked !!! I'm here so I know off one 😉 so carry on helping your bro in law an I wish you both all the luck an good health in the world 😃

I'm sorry I haven't replied befor now but been busy as f**k since Xmas with work and family stuff .. Good luck again pal x

a reply to: Pardon?

As for you pardon !!! You are talking through your asssss !!! You must of lost someone very close to you through cancer and you couldn't of helped them and you feel guilty about it ... That's the only reason I can think off for you to be so dismissive of any thing that could help beat cancer !!! I feel sorry for you that's all ive got to say 😔

originally posted by: nofear39
a reply to: Pardon?

As for you pardon !!! You are talking through your asssss !!! You must of lost someone very close to you through cancer and you couldn't of helped them and you feel guilty about it ... That's the only reason I can think off for you to be so dismissive of any thing that could help beat cancer !!! I feel sorry for you that's all ive got to say 😔

I've read and posted on your thread and I'm still very far from being convinced in the slightest that what you did "cured" your cancer irrespective of how much you believe it.

And like most people, I've lost family members though cancer but no, I feel absolutely no guilt as they had the most appropriate treatment at the time and I didn't advise them to do anything other than to consult an expert.
And that's why I don't feel any guilt, I don't issue advice on a subject I'm not an expert on as I wouldn't be able to shoulder the responsibility if anything was to go wrong.
I will however question people who do give spurious advice as having worked in healthcare for longer than I care to remember, I don't like seeing people hurt un-necessarily and worse, being given false hope.

So unless people can actually provide real proof, I will disbelieve them until they do.
And I've still reason to do otherwise.

a reply to: Pardon?

it isn't my concern if you are convinced I'm cured are not .... No proof will be acceptable to you unless it's from the main stream and that's you choice I can't an don't want to change that 😄 ive not giving anyone false hope as you are found of saying ,ive just told my story which is 100% true 😀

originally posted by: nofear39
a reply to: Pardon?

it isn't my concern if you are convinced I'm cured are not .... No proof will be acceptable to you unless it's from the main stream and that's you choice I can't an don't want to change that 😄 ive not giving anyone false hope as you are found of saying ,ive just told my story which is 100% true 😀

Take your conspiracy hat off.

Proof is always acceptable if given.
Testimonies are not.
Proof is proof, doesn't matter where it comes from.

You BELIEVE that the regimen you followed worked even though you couldn't be 100% sure that you were taking the correct dose or had been taking exactly the same stuff as you sourced it from different places.
You also had conventional treatment to remove the cancer prior to this.

So you don't actually KNOW whether the conventional treatment was the treatment which stopped your cancer or whether it was your alternative method.

Is your consultant looking into studying the therapy you took?
If not why? Cue "big pharma's paying him off"...however...
...if it was successful it would save the NHS millions and probably make him rich beyond his wildest dreams as he could patent the therapy himself.

Next time you go, ask him.
If he says no, ask him why not.

a reply to: Pardon?

He's had a look at all the trails of mebendazole I sent him and he said it looks promising but until the results of the trails are known he can't say either way if it will work .... Which is fair enough in my eyes... I'm healthy so I don't need to wait 😄

a reply to: Pardon?

I will however question people who do give spurious advice as having worked in healthcare for longer than I care to remember, I don't like seeing people hurt un-necessarily and worse, being given false hope.

There it is in a nutshell. You worked in healthcare for so long, you think that only what doctors say and what studies show is all there is, blinded by science.

Well guess what, many of those folk medicines from around the world have been right. Specific tribes and cultures around the world did specific things to cure a variety of maladies, and then big pharma investigates them and finds out, "oh yeah, this really does work for diabetes, or cancer, or snake bites, or knowing what to mix together (out of millions of plants) the exact 2 plants to make ayahuasca in the shamanic cultures in south america.

There are literally millions of variables and not seen factors that have to do with health: Will power, genetics, epigenetics, conscious observance, subconscious variables, diet, herbs, atomosphere, karma, chi, channels, the spiritual realm. By the way, I remember pre-existing, prior to taking on a limited meat suit exoskeletal body, so I know that soul is stronger that physicality and influences it in a variety of ways.

You really have no clue of the unseen variables and can only spout what recent studies tell you because you are literally "blinded by science" like the song goes. This stuff runs in my family. My great grandmother had breast cancer and was told to go home and die. A healer neighbhor came and gave her a black tar slave which literally cured her cancer at 60, and she went on to live to 98.

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: Pardon?

I will however question people who do give spurious advice as having worked in healthcare for longer than I care to remember, I don't like seeing people hurt un-necessarily and worse, being given false hope.

There it is in a nutshell. You worked in healthcare for so long, you think that only what doctors say and what studies show is all there is, blinded by science.

Well guess what, many of those folk medicines from around the world have been right. Specific tribes and cultures around the world did specific things to cure a variety of maladies, and then big pharma investigates them and finds out, "oh yeah, this really does work for diabetes, or cancer, or snake bites, or knowing what to mix together (out of millions of plants) the exact 2 plants to make ayahuasca in the shamanic cultures in south america.

There are literally millions of variables and not seen factors that have to do with health: Will power, genetics, epigenetics, conscious observance, subconscious variables, diet, herbs, atomosphere, karma, chi, channels, the spiritual realm. By the way, I remember pre-existing, prior to taking on a limited meat suit exoskeletal body, so I know that soul is stronger that physicality and influences it in a variety of ways.

You really have no clue of the unseen variables and can only spout what recent studies tell you because you are literally "blinded by science" like the song goes. This stuff runs in my family. My great grandmother had breast cancer and was told to go home and die. A healer neighbhor came and gave her a black tar slave which literally cured her cancer at 60, and she went on to live to 98.

Since you don't know me you don't know the way I think.
That one statement makes the rest of your overblown post irrelevant.

You still haven't shown any proof though, keep on dodgin'!

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: Pardon?



You still haven't shown any proof though, keep on dodgin'!

Your posts are pretty much irrelevant. No-one offering anecdotal evidence has to scientifically prove anything to anyone. It's just friendly information/advice.

originally posted by: Macdon


You still haven't shown any proof though, keep on dodgin'!
Your posts are pretty much irrelevant. No-one offering anecdotal evidence has to scientifically prove anything to anyone. It's just friendly information/advice.

Really?
Someone saying they can cure cancer doesn't have to show evidence nor prove anything?
As that's what he's saying.

"Friendly information/advice" it certainly isn't.

Do you live in the Middle Ages?

a reply to: dominicus

Just got scan results today. Originally he had a lesion on the pancreas and 3 on liver. The Pancreas is completely cancer free, zero lesions, but the three spots on the liver are there so its still a continuation process.

But great news the pancreas is in the clear. Looks like things are heading in the right direction

a reply to: dominicus

More good news. His cancer marker numbers (CA-19) are super low, 47. The normal range of a healthy individual should be between 0-37. The Cancer Doctor is scratching his head and doesn't understand why his markers are so low. He's order a second test to confirm these low numbers, because according to him, it shouldn't be this low and he doesn't know why it is.

The Psychic family aunt as reiterated, he will entirely recover, but it will be a slow process over time. His weight and energy are back up, he's back to work part time, and looks great except for the M.I.A. facial hair/eye brows due to chemo.

He's also started milk thistle, high dose vit C, and there was a new study that came out in Feb 6th 2015 that certain antibiotics kill cancer stem cells, with a few human studies. So we are waiting on an order of Azithro to start as well.

Things are looking up and I will provide all the appropriate paperwork here when he is deemed cancer free, so the skeptics (Pardon) can eat crow