Fundies. Put A Lid On it!

a reply to: Tangerine

congratulations you have finally caught up.

that is what I assumed as I have said about a dozen times in this thread.

Perhaps you should read it?

Has it occurred to you that you don't know what my beliefs are and so aren't in a position to use that as reasoning for why I was mistaken?

a reply to: Grimpachi

you've completely lost me.

what bad assumptions do you think im making?

other than the one ive already owned up to about 12 times?

a reply to: sweord

How can you be lost? You said:

Atheists tend to hang out in bunches so I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed the friend was an atheist too.

Now you knew this was on facebook.

Then you said:

you are talking about offline.

Im talking about online...

Most of the people on my facebook are the same people in my phone contacts.

So let me ask you do you treat your friends differently on the phone or online just because it is a different forum? Do they become different then?

Or have you tried to switch your argument around and insinuate you were referring to people that are only known online?

Somehow I think your answer will not be helpful clearing this up. Surprise me please.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I only have online 'friends' that I met online and don't talk to offline, or offline friends that I don't interact with online.

Im not on facebook or any other social networking sites so I don't talk to my offline friends online at all.

are you surprised? I hope so.

If you are asking do I treat my online friends differently than my offline friends then my answer would be yes. definitely.

I still cant see where this thread drift is taking us but im getting excited.

a reply to: sweord

No I think I understand why you said that now.

You didn't differentiate between a networking communication tool for the real world with forums of people with made up names and avatars to you they were the same.

So now that I am certain that you thought FB and anonymous places like this were the same that explains alot. I really wasn't sure up to this point. You did surprise me. Thanks.

a reply to: Grimpachi

ok now I get where you are coming from...and you're right.

I do understand the difference between facebook and an anonymours forum.

But in truth looking back I probably misread or skipped over the facebook bit.

I didn't really think that the post being put up on facebook was the important part of the story but it does change things.

Obviously it would be very harsh for someone to bait their actual offline friends on facebook like that.

That would be one provocative atheist...

so my incorrect assumption can also be put down to a bit of inaccurate speed reading as well.

so you are correct I wasn't really looking at the situation from a 'facebook' point of view more of an anonymous one.

Of course we can assume that the Christian replies she got WERE from her friends which is pretty damn low in my opinion.

Id be unfriending those guys in a hurry. after I gave them a serve.

I didn't mean to imply that atheists were such horrible people that they try to bait their 'believer' friends.

but I did mean to imply that they would be capable of doing it to strangers.

a reply to: sweord

Its fine. It was a simple misunderstanding of the circumstances. I just couldn't wrap my head around it.

I will agree things get said online anonymously that I hope most people in personal relations with others would refrain from. That happens on all sides. As for the friends part here(this is the only place I visit to discuss) I will call some people friends in a sense but it isn't anything like actually knowing and having interacted with people. Two different worlds with different circumstances. I am sure you know what I mean.

I will admit though I still don't get the hanging out part but it is fine there is no need to explain. Anyway, again thanks for explaining.= some faith restored in humanity

a reply to: Grimpachi

well in thinking about this it seems we tend to chose our friends online based on common beliefs or like mindedness whereas offline we tend to not worry about that so much and just choose friends by whether they are a good person and treat us well.

That's something ive gleaned out of our discussion anyway.

a reply to: sweord

Yeah kinda but there are those on here that I often disagree with which have even had some entrenched debates and at least one them I deeply respect enough to invite him down to actually meet. That person holds a deep Catholic belief but it has been the respectful manner in which he has always been that I can call him a friend and respected adversary.

Maybe that is just an exception to the rule I can't say.

a reply to: Grimpachi

An atheist and a catholic meeting online and becoming friends would be a pretty rare thing I reckon.

a reply to: sweord

Well when you put it like that....lol



I am sure stranger things have happened. You still got me to laugh.

a reply to: Klassified

God-bothered hypocrites and suspicious villagers.

originally posted by: Klassified

Could you enlighten me as to what an "atheist fundie" is, and how they are hypocritical? Thanks.

Your kidding arnt you?

Try google, its your friend, read a typical creation evolution thread where the atheists decides what others think and must believe

a reply to: borntowatch

It seems "atheist fundie" is in the urban dictionary but I got a kick out of another site that claimed to define it here

One of the definitions is this.

You believe that extra drippy ice-cream is a logical proof against the existence of God, because an omniscient God would know how to stop the ice-cream from being extra drippy, an omnipotent God would have the ability to stop the ice-cream from being extra drippy, and by golly, an omnibenevolent God wouldn't want your ice-cream to be extra drippy.

They assigned like 426 attributes which pretty much means that if a person is an atheist in any way then they are a fundie atheist. Oh well nice try. Funny though.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: infolurker

Actually the X is indicating the Greek letter “Chi”, And when spelling Christ in Greek it starts with an X.

So calling you Xtian, or Christmas xmas isn't juvenile at all.

Getting offended by it is though..also ignorant, especially if you are Xtian.

Ah yes, we used to use many words differently in the past.

Currently, the majority of the time you see Xmas or Xtians is in a derogatory manner on the internet. It appears to be an evangelical atheist favorite term as of the last few years.

originally posted by: sweord

"It would be a rare atheist who even had the ability to hang out with bunches of atheists."

nah its not hard at all. you just got to an atheist forum and say hello.

You could gather a whole bunch of atheists right here on ATS if you like by starting a thread call "atheism is a religion"

if you're having trouble meeting people that is.



Atheism isn't a religion. How many Christian-related threads are there on ATS right this minute? How many atheist threads?

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: Tangerine

congratulations you have finally caught up.

that is what I assumed as I have said about a dozen times in this thread.

Perhaps you should read it?

Has it occurred to you that you don't know what my beliefs are and so aren't in a position to use that as reasoning for why I was mistaken?

Ooops. The only part of the above post that is mine is, "Atheism isn't a religion. How many Christian-related threads are there on ATS right this minute? How many atheist threads? "

originally posted by: sweord
a reply to: Grimpachi

An atheist and a catholic meeting online and becoming friends would be a pretty rare thing I reckon.

Not really, I'm an atheist & I have two of 'em as close friends. Episcopalians, Protestants, Lutherans, Pentecostals, and a few other denoms as well. The Catholic snot I told off that infuriated her buddy list was, IMO, the anomaly.

Exactly why is atheists & the religious being friends such a hard notion to wrap your mind around? Or Pagans & Christians, for that matter? (we have a bunch of mutual Pagan friends, too! Wow, who knew!) It's more a matter of being yourself, and being tolerant of others being themselves, too. We've all had debates over whether or not a tree spirit exists, and whether or not Jesus ever did, but we're all still friends because in the end, we're more than the mere sum of our beliefs.

@nyiah

unless you actually met those friends online then I don't see what that's got to do with the post you quoted.

And atheists and 'the religious' being friends offline is not hard to wrap my head around at all.

If you actually read my posts you would see that ive already said as much two whole posts ago.

But you obviously want to disagree with me about something so don't let what ive actually typed stop you.

An atheist and a catholic meeting on ATS (of all places) and becoming friends offline however, is surprising to me.

Even a little heart warming to be honest.

Ive actually started writing a movie script based on the idea. I think its gonna be a real tear jerker...Oscar material.

a reply to: Tangerine

"Atheism isn't a religion" - yes, I know.

"How many Christian-related threads are there on ATS right this minute? How many atheist threads?" - I don't know.