So...I'm a racist now.

a reply to: samerulesapply

About the pa** thing, I've starred it out so as to be nice.

It's only a slur because it offends them. Like...how'd it start? Someone probably was like...stop calling me that! The more you do that the more people will say it...because people like to be morons now and then. And they like to gang up and be morons...they'll always find someone to moron on.

They jus' love mornin!

Is it offensive because racist groups use it in such a derogatory way? I dunno, again, people poked fun at me for various things through childhood, we all did it to each other. It was the ones who took it so personal to the point it became their defining feature that got it worst. Some people like to make you whine and get a kick out of it.

a reply to: AnuTyr

Erm... yes. I am well aware of the definitions of both of those words, I am quite literate you see. However, I fear your point has gone right over my head.

What was that again?

I am aware that Pakistani is not a race but a nationality, yet CharlieSpeirs suggested "Paki" is a racial slur. I am simply curious as to why and if he also considers "Yank" a racial slur.

a reply to: samerulesapply

Then you have to say things to confuse them. If they are trying to congrigate on one idea.
If you can introduce another it will throw them off.

See watch this. Observe how obama slips away from the pitchforks and being burned at the stake for being labeled the Anti-christ.



You can learn alot from these people.

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

I'v never known the pakistanies to be race. As far as i know it is a geographic location. Not a specified race of people.

Does pakistanie mean you have to be brown? No. Many colors if you wanna call it that live there.

So is it a racial slurr? Of course not.

The man does not understand the differences between prejudices and racism. True racism is hating all people of a variant color or biological bloodline which defines us as seperate races.

Canadian american w.e non of those are races but nationalities.


FYI, if you want to be throwing out things that can be interprited at *racist* make sure you tell the offended individual about these characteristics and what seperates them and how you don't hate any race. But you may dislike a particular government. Or say? a certain street in a city where you may have been mugged? All should be stated on experience and not generalization so that the critisim is not predice or racist.

Keep in mind, in order for it not to be that way you have to establish that you respect and love the culture, just a particular experience or individual happened to make a bad experience. Which is okay because it happens both ways. People are people and people know this everywhere... And that's the whole point to living a non discriminatory life.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

That's why I asked "What was the black, bald guys' reaction?".

Some people's jobs depend on political correctness, especially those in the for profit "servicing the public sector", sector.

Well, they shouldn't depend on political correctness at the cost of accuracy and simplicity. Let's say the OP, during his explanation to the other workers said hang on, he chased down the bald black guy, wrote down what he was wearing, his height, approximate weight, etc., then came back to the conversation with the original coworker and rhymed off a list of physical and visual attributes to explain who the bald black guy was. What a waste of ef'ing time! And that time is costing the company money for "political correctness."

When did all these losers decide that we all had to be so bloody careful as to not hurt anyone's feelings. It's like when my son graduated, he was like in the upper 5% of the honour role (95%+ average), but the stupid school put pretty much all of the grade 12 students on the honour roll, just so they wouldn't offend anybody. That's retarded, if they're stupid or average or whatever, the school can't suddenly wish them smarter by putting them on the honour roll.

We really need to start making examples of these politically correct idiots by brow-beating them with the same crap they dish out. Normally I would go with tarred and feathered while hanging upside down from one foot by a rope or maybe covered in honey and buried up to their necks in sand while surrounded by ants, but that might not be politically correct ;-)

We live in Bizarro World!

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: AnuTyr

Lol, cheers for the link.

You're right you know, I don't understand any of it at all. I don't understand our supposedly inherent need to make these kids of distinction.

Do dogs discriminate between breeds? I reckon if I was a poodle, I'd probably think jack russels were proper scum.

I don't understand it at all, and meant what I said when I said that skin colour means as much to me as hair or eye colour...or blood type, genetics...why would it?

If people are cool they're cool, some people aren't. They make bizarre distinctions that are inconsequential, it's not the cause of discrimination or the effect, it's the root of it.

I don't understand...but then again, I'm blonde.

a reply to: samerulesapply

OK. Look. This is will offend some people, but truth is that the ultra-PC folks are of a given political party. Guess which. The PCness is part of the ideology of that party that they accept when they buy into that party. They don't have a choice. They get the badge and must wear it because it lends them status as an upright, superior human being absolutely knowing what is best for the restof us. The trouble is, it has no valid reason for being. PCness is just an extreme on humanity proposed by a few. Now, look out!--just as extreme as the Nazi party deciding that the Jews were not people they wanted to see around, and the other citizens either nodded their heads and said, "Yep. They be undesirables." Others didn't even think that far but simply went along with the mainstream Nazi spiel because they knew who was in charge. The party depended on all swearing allegiance to the credo Does any of this start to sound familiar to your case?

Listen. We are preached about diversity these days. The days of them preaching that we are all equal, the same, are gone. Shuffled out the door when the light finally went on in party HQ that, actually, we weren't. So now that diversity is here we are not supposed to recognize the diverse differences among us? What does that term mean anyway! AGH! How can we survive under such twisted dictates? What will the dictates of the next manifesto demand?

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

If you're willing to come to England and visit a community that harbours Asians...
I would advise you not to use that word.


I don't say "yank", I say american...
I also have never said canuck...

I don't know if those words originated with racist intent or not, but I don't use them anyways.



It's been a racial slur used against Asian people since they first migrated to the UK...


Like I said, you call a Pakistani that word, you won't receive a warm welcome.



Edit: It wasn't used to describe a Pakistani in a xenophobic fashion...
It has been used against Sri Lankans, Indians, Pakistanis & pretty much any Middle Eastern person as a racist term due to their similar complexion.

Hopefully that makes more sense now.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

It's taboo, call an American Yank and that is also Taboo as well.

ta·boo
təˈbo͞o,taˈbo͞o/
noun
noun: taboo; plural noun: taboos; noun: tabu; plural noun: tabus

1.
a social or religious custom prohibiting or forbidding discussion of a particular practice or forbidding association with a particular person, place, or thing.
synonyms: prohibition, proscription, veto, interdiction, interdict, ban, restriction
"the taboo against healing on the Sabbath"
a social practice that is prohibited or restricted.
"speaking about sex is a taboo in his country"

adjective
adjective: taboo; adjective: tabu

1.
prohibited or restricted by social custom.
"sex was a taboo subject"
synonyms: forbidden, prohibited, banned, proscribed, interdicted, outlawed, illegal, illicit, unlawful, restricted, off limits; More
unmentionable, unspeakable, unutterable, unsayable, ineffable;
rude, impolite
"taboo subjects"
antonyms: acceptable
designated as sacred and prohibited.
"the burial ground was seen as a taboo place"

verb
verb: taboo; 3rd person present: taboos; past tense: tabooed; past participle: tabooed; gerund or present participle: tabooing; verb: tabu; 3rd person present: tabus; past tense: tabued; past participle: tabued; gerund or present participle: tabuing

1.
place under prohibition.
"traditional societies taboo female handling of food during this period"

a reply to: AnuTyr

I'm well aware of what taboo means.


Edit: Yes I'm also aware that Americans don't appreciate the word Yank.

You have to learn to hate everyone equally.
Redneck honkies, Yanks, all kinds of Chinks, Niggers, Abos, Kiwis, Wetbacks, all kind of Arabs and Jews, Wookies and Ewoks, Robots, Grays, Nordics, Hairy Midgets, Republicrats, dirty Hippies...the list goes on and on.
Just learn to hate them all equally and then you'll be a politically correct person. Learn to hate them, too.
Ugh...

a reply to: samerulesapply

Those arn't very good examples. Because that still sounds like eugenics LOL.

Uhh.. maybe an example of color of clothes?

Race is like the color of the clothes you wear. Some is fadded some is bleached some is dyed and some is plain.
Either way, i believe in reincarnation and all that is to me is changing a new set of clothes. Do i care about race? Not really. Because its only a suit we wear well we propell this meat suit, thusting our limbs to crawl upon the surface of this meek blue dot seeking refuge among a cosmic phenomenon that could destroy us at any moments notice.

I love run on sentences. But yeah. compare the color of your clothing the argument will go much better than comparing hair or eye color LOL.

You know someone who liked to do that? Hitler.

I was talking to a black lady and I said 'African American' and she told me that was wrong to say. She told me they want to be called "Black people"! So WTF? This is typical PC BS! Other people deciding what other races should be called. Apparently it is NOT agreed upon even to the black people them selves if you are catching BS for saying that. I live in Florida, which is a touchy place to be if you are racist. I work with the general public and never had anyone call me a racist when using the term black to describe a black dude or chick. This world is going off the deep end and I am sick of the PC bull crap that is bantered about. If you got a problem then tell me what you want to be called, as I don't care, but out of respect I will call you what you want. Heck, I swear it was back years ago that blacks wanted to be called African Americans, which is why I used the term. But, I will take it from the mouth of a proud black woman to tell me the truth as to what they want to be called and I use that term now as a result.

Now I am wondering if different parts of the country, or world have different terms they wanted to be recognized as. If so, then the world has a real problem with PC in the day of global communications. I would tell 'she hero' to go bark up another tree. Maybe she will get the hint she is a Byotch.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Wow, that is so weird to me. I apologize, then, if my use of the term offended anyone. I just can't see any one getting mad for being called an Ameri. Which essentially boils down to the same thing.

The more you know, I suppose.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Because in canada i can say Yank and no one bats an eye. However if i go to America and start shouting it, its Taboo. There is no written law that states i can't say that but its culturally forbidden.

And applies all of those definitions above

a reply to: samerulesapply

No you're not.
Now try to apply this when giving a witness account.
Try to tell a police sketch artist that the guy in question ( wearing the name brand clothing ) of no race allowed is headed down Main street... and carrying a Starbucks Venti in his or her right hand...

Or try. The guy who seems deaf... you know! With the Lisp!
I get your pain.


You can turn off the lights... but not the voice..

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

No offence taken my friend.


I did wonder if it had the same connotation in the U.S as it does in the U.K...


I also understand the confusion because we say things like Aussie, and our cousins Down Under don't get offended (or at least haven't expressed any offence taken to me)...


I also understand that it does sound more in the lines of xenophobic rather than racist...
However due to the way it was & is used to derogatorily describe anyone from MiddleEast/Asia it fits the racial definition.



Edit: I'm glad people could learn from what I had to say, I really only said it because I was surprised that a Scotsman(the OP) wouldn't already know that.

I don't think it was racist. How else would you describe him? Anywho, don't let it bother you. Ignorant people will be ignorant. There's nothing to do about it.

PS. I'm not racist. I hate everyone.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

What about jock? Something must be said for us scots or I shall take offence to thee!

I got called a jock once in a bar in london...tell a lie it was essex...a jcok something-or-other as it were. To be fair I wasn't sure if I should be offended or take it as a complimednt...in america jocks are them handsome lads in high school what play sports, so it's quite a macho slur.

And I take pride in being called a scot, it sounds bloody cool. Get outta heeeere, scot! Why, thankyou, kind sir!

I dunno, maybe I'm just thick skinned when it comes to being insulted, people called me loads of stupid names mainly due to my stature, bigger kids tried to accost and throttle me but they didn't like it that much when I fighted back and things got better after a couple of weeks. Just an episode in an otherwise happy and quite typical life.

There were a few victims of note - there was one boy who had the worst squint eye, he was really introvery, long hair...he became this charicature and it became his whole identity, every reference to him was about his eye.

The more withdrawn he became the worse it got, he grew his hair long and hid his face behind it. But I knew other kids with a similar problem, a turn in their eye, and they were fine. They bloody stood up for themselves, some people just crumble, you don't need sticks or stones - names can be effective because people let that beat them psychologically.

I knew people who were taunted for having ginger hair, one lad even got it because he had a problem with his leg and wore a brace, and yes - there were minorities...very much minorities, in large school of maybe 500 pupils you could probably could them with both hands...scotland in the 80's and 90's - things are a lot different now.

I work and have worked with so many people from different countries over the last 10 years or so, I've had more issues with the natives throughout my life than I have any other nationality...we have our fair share of bigots.

They've never insulted me in any way nor I them, if they do insult me they'll no doubt call me jock, or scot...and I'll simply beam with pride.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Understood. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess it is a regional thing. I have heard the term before but I guess I never realized the connotations attached to it.