David Icke and political peadophiles. Is it time to re adress his claims?

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

His Reptile theory is believable when explained correctly.



He claims they're from another dimension...
I can dig that, although I'd call them Djinn taking Reptillian form...


He claims leaders can shape shift into these beings...
I think this means they can manipulate both dimensions...
Not that they turn into Lizards in our fleshy realm, but rather take that form in the said dimension...


He claims they feed off of negative energy...
Again, nearly all religions believe in the Darkside of the Universe & what they thrive off of...


He claims we are living in a Matrix...
Which to me and my comprehension of his explanations, just refers to the multi dimensional Universe that exists outside of the realm we inhabit...




Again, that's just my comprehension of his wisdom.

People want to ridicule Ickes reptilian theory but there are a multitude of ufology researchers and authors who have mentioned this. They are beings who exist outside 3rd density human perception. What gets people stumped on this is the fact that most can't even comprehend the reality of anything outside of what the 5 senses register as a strictly physical materialization of 3rd density. let alone the beings who can navigate densities either at will, or through technological means.

Icke says some crazy stuff....but if I were him and I had gotten information about a pedo ring in high places I'd say crazy stuff to keep my head on my shoulders, and I would carefully release information regarding the pedo ring ontop of my wild claims. That way you will only look crazy to the people that do not do their homework and you will keep hitmen off your ass. If you have volital information that'll get you killed, your only defense is talk and walk crazy, but not actually be crazy. However I think he doesn't speak of reptiles anymore and gets angry when asked about it, I personally think its possible considering how the world is and the seemingly designed state of negativity the world functions within; plus I know nothing and anything is possible. The fact we excist and atoms are made of 99% space IS INSANE and makes anything possible, anything at all.

From my experience, the loudest dissenter is actually one of the pack. See also the anti gay preachers who were... gay.

He's probably one of the lizard people himself, and it's his job to squawk and carry on like this, so people wont look at stuff.

Or, I am just being mean. ;-D

originally posted by: the owlbear
In no way will I ever accept the notion that there are shape shifting lizard people.

Pedophiles (and thrill killers, rapists, # straight out of "Hostel") in high places...no doubt. Those at the top can pay to cover their perversions. And with the creation of the Ultra-rich class...people so untouchable they can do anything due to unlimited wealth, who knows what they have done just to do it and get away with it.

Oh, but I am a shape shifting lizard people...

Haven't you seen my icon?

Rebel 5

He's the British version of Alex Jones. He sprinkles a little bit of truth on top of a load of regurgitated BS.

I see a lot of people calling him an idiot, but he is far from an idiot. The man is a millionaire because of the sales from his books and shows, public appearances, ect. He has what can only be described as a cult following, who will throw money at him for more delicious fear porn.

That's not the work of an idiot. That's the work of a master con man and deceiver.

a reply to: SensiblyReckless

My first line was going to start exactly like yours!

The thing about Icke for me is that his wild claims detract from the real issues, even if he half mentions them. He is the Alien/UFO movement epitomised in a person, talk about something interesting but then wildly fantasize and ignore the facts.

Also, of all his claims, he doesn't mention or Even Hint at Jimmy Saville once, and considering he worked at the BBC when he did. Well, that just backs up what I thought of him. Booooooo David Icke, Booooooooooooo Alex Jones. YaaaaaY for logical thinking.

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
a reply to: nonspecific

It's been a while but from what I remember Gordon Brown was implicated , then because the girl had severe mental problems the courts were trying to say there was no evidence as she knows no better.

Hmm thats the second time I've heard Browns name mentioned concerning possible child abuse!

These vids are quite an eye opener! Think its the third vid where Brown is mentioned.
The vids detail some very strange involvement by the uk government in the Maddy case.

Part 1:



Part 2:



Part 3:



Part 4:

There are several politicians of late that witnesses have come forward and said that they are part of a child abuse ring, and witnesses say that it's reaching into the highest level of Government.

There are too many people coming forward to ignore for much longer.

And for the record, David Icke always prefaces his ideas with "just giving you the information, YOU make up your minds". I find his theories about Lizard People the most ridiculous, until recently.

I met someone who was regressed through CURRENT life experiences, as he has large gaps in his memories, and thinks he may have been on a military base in Northern Manitoba (Canada) where genetic research was going on, into increasing healing rates using lizard dna. He has an incredible healing rate - he broke his arm last year and it healed within a week - doctors were astounded. I actually watched it happen over the course of a few days. Doctors thought he'd need a cast for 4-6 weeks, and removed it six days later.

Lizard DNA is known to have healing properties, and lizards can regrow limbs if they're lopped off.

Have you ever noticed how almost no one in the Royal Family ever seems to get SICK ? Prince Philip had that mysterious heart condition a year or two ago, that everyone seemed to think he was a goner, and he recovered very quickly for a man of 90. William and Harry never seem to miss an official function, neither does the Queen, nor Charles, Edward, or Andrew, or Anne.

I mean hell, EVERYONE misses a day or two of work occasionally cause they're feeling under the weather.

originally posted by: babybunnies
There are several politicians of late that witnesses have come forward and said that they are part of a child abuse ring, and witnesses say that it's reaching into the highest level of Government.

There are too many people coming forward to ignore for much longer.

And for the record, David Icke always prefaces his ideas with "just giving you the information, YOU make up your minds". I find his theories about Lizard People the most ridiculous, until recently.

I met someone who was regressed through CURRENT life experiences, as he has large gaps in his memories, and thinks he may have been on a military base in Northern Manitoba (Canada) where genetic research was going on, into increasing healing rates using lizard dna. He has an incredible healing rate - he broke his arm last year and it healed within a week - doctors were astounded. I actually watched it happen over the course of a few days. Doctors thought he'd need a cast for 4-6 weeks, and removed it six days later.

Lizard DNA is known to have healing properties, and lizards can regrow limbs if they're lopped off.

Have you ever noticed how almost no one in the Royal Family ever seems to get SICK ? Prince Philip had that mysterious heart condition a year or two ago, that everyone seemed to think he was a goner, and he recovered very quickly for a man of 90. William and Harry never seem to miss an official function, neither does the Queen, nor Charles, Edward, or Andrew, or Anne.

I mean hell, EVERYONE misses a day or two of work occasionally cause they're feeling under the weather.

Even Diana said "She's a lizard" when talking about the queen mother!

Lizard dna for fast healing? Thats very interesting! Any links for more info on that?

originally posted by: nonspecific
Sex magic has been around for centuries, look up Aliester Crowley for a start, also wiccans and many pagan religions use sexual intercourse as part of many magical workings.

I do not want to be too specific as It goes against my nature.

a reply to: Tangerine

Crowley is dead and he wasn't a pagan. Many pagan religions use sex magic? Name them, please. You don't want to be too specific because it goes against your nature? ROFLMAO. You mean you can't.

originally posted by: babybunnies
There are several politicians of late that witnesses have come forward and said that they are part of a child abuse ring, and witnesses say that it's reaching into the highest level of Government.

There are too many people coming forward to ignore for much longer.

And for the record, David Icke always prefaces his ideas with "just giving you the information, YOU make up your minds". I find his theories about Lizard People the most ridiculous, until recently.

I met someone who was regressed through CURRENT life experiences, as he has large gaps in his memories, and thinks he may have been on a military base in Northern Manitoba (Canada) where genetic research was going on, into increasing healing rates using lizard dna. He has an incredible healing rate - he broke his arm last year and it healed within a week - doctors were astounded. I actually watched it happen over the course of a few days. Doctors thought he'd need a cast for 4-6 weeks, and removed it six days later.

Lizard DNA is known to have healing properties, and lizards can regrow limbs if they're lopped off.

Have you ever noticed how almost no one in the Royal Family ever seems to get SICK ? Prince Philip had that mysterious heart condition a year or two ago, that everyone seemed to think he was a goner, and he recovered very quickly for a man of 90. William and Harry never seem to miss an official function, neither does the Queen, nor Charles, Edward, or Andrew, or Anne.

I mean hell, EVERYONE misses a day or two of work occasionally cause they're feeling under the weather.

Exactly how did you watch a broken arm heal? My guess is that he told you it healed that fast and you simply believed it like you believe the lizard stuff. The Royals do get sick. They still show up for events unless they're in the hospital. It's called duty and, like them or not, they take it seriously. It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that someone must be a lizard because they don't announce in public that they've got the flu or a cold.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Before I begin I would like to say that yes, I know that most of the good people at ats do not like David Icke.

And yes I know he he claimed that the queen was a gekko and that the moon was a holographic so and so but this is one of his older theories.

David Icke has been adamant for years that several prominent politicians(one in particular) were involved in "satanic" ritual child abuse.

With the ongoing investigations my question is this?

If the politician he claimed was involved would you be prepared to re evaluate his other beliefs based on his assumption being correct.

David Icke is an interesting case. To be honest, I don't know what to make of his information.

It's not that difficult for me to believe that so called pedophile rings could exist. It gets more dicey when he DOES say that they are doing it for ritualistic means. It gets even more dicey when he says they use the blood of certain sacrifices to enable shapeshifting. That stuff is far out.

At the same time, I like his videos and some of his more "normal" conspiracy theories. And, i get a good "vibe" from his talks. So I don't know what to make of the guy really, haha.

We live in a society that thrives on dismissing and discrediting an individual whom presents hard-to-swallow information that threatens the status quo. Instead of examining their information in a context-appropriate, objective and unbiased manner, people can simply say, "but reptilians! (or antisemite)" and any information they present is automatically dismissed - no matter how factual, truthful or plausible.

David Icke is a prime example of this.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

It gets even more dicey when he says they use the blood of certain sacrifices to enable shapeshifting. That stuff is far out.

Actually its very scientific. He says they invoke sheer terror in the individual right before killing them and drinking their blood because it has adrenaline and they use it to get high.

Edit: he doesn't say its anything to do with shapeshifting.. At least not in the interview I saw.

a reply to: nonspecific

we can neither prove or disprove davids lizard theory.

The Queen of England sure look likes one.

Or do you have any new info on our fellow space friends?

Anything at all that disproves this theory?

originally posted by: noeltrotsky
a reply to: nonspecific

I think when you start claiming pretty wild things about living people then you have a responsibility to be able to prove those claims. I believe English common law calls it slander if you can't prove your claims then it is punishable...and rightly so.

I wouldn't want someone calling me a Pedophile with no proof and screaming it all over the place. In a civil society things like that aren't allowed.

Icke has so many wild claims out there it is going to take more than one being true to get me to shift my judgement of him. Alot more than one.

Not quite true Noel... English/Westminster Law around issues of 'Slander', place the onus of proof on the 'Slandered' to prove that what the 'Slanderer' has said is NOT true.

Funny how they're all very quite on this issue over there.

a reply to: Tangerine


Ummm...have you ever heard the phrase..."methinketh you protesteth too much"...?

The reason I'm asking this is that your all over every thread on this subject attacking people and stating how ridiculous whatever they have to say is...It's like you have a personal connection to this subject...some insider knowledge...perhaps...?

You articulate from a position of knowledge or gnosis and yet provide no evidence to counter whatever thought stream you attack...this to me would seem a trifle agnostic...

I would refer you to this post from earlier in this thread...

Perhaps...then...you might consider that you really have no Gnosis to share on this subject and reconsider your motives for denigrating so many other posters that are simply trying to wrap their heads around the implications...

However...let me make a rather simplistic premonition...I.E.,...allow me to wax Crowley-esque...sans conjuration of course...

I predict that you will choose to deflect and dismiss without recourse to proper rebuttal...As you have in all of the threads on this subject...

Or...not...


YouSir

Award goes to you! for the most idiotic statement of 2014..

David Ickes speaks more truth than you could even dream of...merrychristmas btwa reply to: projectbane

great points! I totally agree..a reply to: Dark Ghost

a reply to: nonspecific

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

Icke is not completely irrational. He can and does act rationally. Any evidence that supports one particular theory does not mean that unrelated theories would then magically be correct by association.