Breaking: Soldier shot at war memorial in Ottawa

originally posted by: flowofmysoul
Is it true that US embassy is closed in Ottawa?

Why not?

Would be standard procedure would it not?

US embassy seem to love attracting fire.

Id close it and put it under heavy guard if I was even half competent.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: ElohimJD

NORAD is no joke and it is the central hub for all NA defenses.

Maybe when it was based at Cheyenne Mountain.

It has since been moved.

www.washingtontimes.com...

Sad isn't it?

To save money we allowed the entire NA continent to loose the powerfully protected Cheyenne Mt complex.

But NORAD is still powerful, and still has command operations over air and space, just not in the safety of 100 meters of reinforced granite rock...

The real tragedy is the potential to loose second strike capabilities do to the soft protection at the Colorado Springs facility. If C. Springs is taken out first.... no more MAD.

God Bless,

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

It’s not that I live in a fantasy world and I agree completely that these groups are a threat. I never said they weren’t!

However, I live in a world in which my government and no doubt the American and the British governments, consistently lie to us in order to further their own agendas.

As well, I live in a world where it’s been shown that ISIS and other similar terrorist groups were originally supported and funded by our militaries.

My intent for the post was to encourage people to think critically. It’s easy when we’re angry to want to go out and start rounding up “witches” --- but in this case, we don’t know yet who the shooters were or their motives.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: aboutface
a reply to: Ridhya

Yea, I too heard that. A native person as the shooter would blow my mind. Not that they don't have lots of reasons to be pissed off, because they certainly do, but I know so many of them and they are all non-violent and quite likeable.

We just had three teenage girls from CO caught in Germany trying to figure out how to get to Syria to join ISIS.

Never discount the power of youth and stupidity.

Yeah...that was a pretty funny story. I am sure they would have enjoyed the rape. Gotta love the naiveté of the whole situation. Hey girls...why don't we go join IS and be treated like second rate animals....sounds like a plan Becky...let's go!

If any of the suspects were/are aboriginal they are rogues b/c there are certainly no legitimate or prominent native groups or organizations (that I'm aware of, at least) even the most radical, that would come anywhere even close to doing something like this or sanctioning something like this.

My heart goes out to the victim/s and also my prayers to resolve this swiftly and peacefully with no further bloodshed.

As a Canadian this troubles me deeply, and regardless of who's responsible lets remember not to give in to the fear which these disgusting actions are intended to stir and incite in us.

Thanks everyone for all the updates.

The first report i saw ( i'm in Quebec/Montreal, fallowing the story all day ) was a long-hair and flag with arabic writing ( from a constructor near the parlement )

The GRC won't confirm the suspect identity, but they seem to know.


Police seem to calm down, so the story about more then 1 shotter seem less likely, or he was shot down but the GRC didnt tell us.

Door's guard of the parlement are not armed, the suspect was kill by the "chief of guard" of the parlement as he enter ( he didnt went far ).

He seem to have a shot gun, so the 30+ shot were mostly shot from the armed guards.

The suspect seem to arrive alone or with other, in a car without his "numeral plate" on the back of the car. He killed the soldier, then stole a diplomatic black car and drove in the front of the parlement ( the black car that we can see near the parlement )

Sorry for my bad english i'm french!

a reply to: ElohimJD

The real tragedy is the potential to loose second strike capabilities do to the soft protection at the Colorado Springs facility. If C. Springs is taken out first.... no more MAD.

I wanted to disagree with this, but then I remember the Fort Hood shootings, and how easy it was for a single gunman to bring a military base to it's knees.

a reply to: Runciter33

The native scenario does not make any sense at all. If it were true, then why go after a soldier guarding the cenotaph? Many of our natives are respected veterans from WW2 and since, and they all know that just as we do.

a reply to: aboutface

Why would they go for something that makes sense?

a reply to: FreeQuebec86
Your English is fine.
Thank you for the update.

originally posted by: FreeQuebec86
The first report i saw ( i'm in Quebec/Montreal, fallowing the story all day ) was a long-hair and flag with arabic writing ( from a constructor near the parlement )

The GRC won't confirm the suspect identity, but they seem to know.


Police seem to calm down, so the story about more then 1 shotter seem less likely, or he was shot down but the GRC didnt tell us.

Door's guard of the parlement are not armed, the suspect was kill by the "chief of guard" of the parlement as he enter ( he didnt went far ).

He seem to have a shot gun, so the 30+ shot were mostly shot from the armed guards.

The suspect seem to arrive alone or with other, in a car without his "numeral plate" on the back of the car. He killed the soldier, then stole a diplomatic black car and drove in the front of the parlement ( the black car that we can see near the parlement )

Sorry for my bad english i'm french!

If true about the flag and arabic writing that confirms the radicalization element of the incident, whether home grown or not remains to be seen

lifted this off another forum, cannot confirm

pbs.twimg.com...

might be pic of shooter

Pretty sure they already had a list of names of those known to have travelled and joined extremist groups and come back....should make it pretty easy to pinpoint who was involved.

a reply to: aboutface
I dont believe its related but its relevant, some native bands here threatened violence if the pipelines went through. People do crazy things to call attention to plight sometimes


a reply to: FreeQuebec86
ne vous inquietez pas, faites vous bien!

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
lifted this off another forum, cannot confirm

pbs.twimg.com...

might be pic of shooter

Long hair, black and white covering and a long gun...however he doesn't really look "native" to me.

Does it say where the pic came from and how it was obtained? That is a crazy close shot of him and would appear to be from today being that what he has in the pic fits the description.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
lifted this off another forum, cannot confirm

pbs.twimg.com...

might be pic of shooter

Definatly not Native Indian

a reply to: Stormdancer777
Well that is a lever action rifle, not a shotgun... but the interesting thing is there are conflicting reports (IF there was only one shooter) - as it was confirmed that the parliament guy was short, with long black hair, and a double barrelled shotgun.

Other reports say a guy fled carrying "a big rifle"

a reply to: Ridhya

I know, but still why not go after any other target related to their anger? I just could not accept the notion that an aboriginal would choose an honour guard at the war memorial.

a reply to: whatnext21


I guess it's home-grown islamic radical.

Earlier this week, we had the "St-Jean" things, with a converted Quebecers, that converted in the past 2yrs, had financial and love problems. He went from a "douche-bag" looking to radical islam. He drove his car on 2 military dress people, got a pursue and got kill by Police as he crash + trying to attack police with his knife after.

The "weird thing" is that our PM Stephen Harper, told us all before the Police or any media. That it was surely a terrorist attack. ( He is pro-ISIS war + Pro-patriot-act style bill to come soon... )

BUT, the mentally-ill guy was watch by the gouvernement, he try to go in syria, but got his passport take off ( so it must have trigger his rage )

And a week before, the gouvernement release the info that about 80 terrorist are "watched" too

So other people were saying he used a mentally-ill guy for his agenda ( for conspiracist lover lol.. Brainswash/flase-flag ? )

But today, Stephen Harper didnt say it was a terrorist already... BUT one of the minister confirm the dead of the soldier on twitter... So the gouvernement know more then the media.




My "guess" is that Harper will tell the media ( once again, being the first ) and confirm it was a terrorist attack.


Why he want to be the first to confirm it ? Look like a political tactic to look like ( The good father in control who know it all... )


I don't think a outsider would do this, it's surely a home-grow islamic going all crazy because of Canada going to war vs ISIS.

And maybe he knew how the security work in the parlement, because only "Diplomatic car" are allow to approch, and he stole 1.



and personal view, i dont like that GRC and police hide so much information. In USA when a crisis appear, it's seem that media are well inform. Here police make press conference without telling us nothing, because "it's on-goin".

Media here use police radio to get info, that would explain all the confusion ( police radio are never clear for outside listener )

originally posted by: aboutface
a reply to: Runciter33

The native scenario does not make any sense at all. If it were true, then why go after a soldier guarding the cenotaph? Many of our natives are respected veterans from WW2 and since, and they all know that just as we do.

I'd question the Canadian native story, too. As much as I would a story about a similar incident that was pinned on American natives. Sure, there are grievances, but those communities haven't shown a tendency to that ... much less than some other groups.