A second Health care worker in Dallas diagnosed with Ebola

originally posted by: Destinyone
a reply to: texasgirl


Yes, TG. Where is the family of Duncan. Their silence is screaming at me. WHERE IS THE FAMILY!

I would feel a little more calm, if they did parade his girl friend out to say anything on camera. I'm not feeling good about them.

I know those other hospital workers who provided care for Duncan, and their families, are sitting in a nightmare limbo.

For anyone who still thinks this is not a problem, and there is no real reason for concern. Wake up! How many new victims does it take for you to deem it a real problem. Especially when it's health care workers falling to ebola now.

TG, I know, well, I can't really know, how scared you must feel. Is there anything I can do to help you. Would you like me to UPS a box of some kind of supplies to you. In the event you at some future point, feel the need to isolate your family for safety. If so, please PM me, with a small list of things you need, and a shipping addy.

My heart goes out to everyone living in fear at ground zero. I do consider Dallas as ground zero at this point.

Des

I'm okay. No panic at this point. I just feel terrible for all the nurses and doctors who treated him. And embarrassed, angry over how our officials and Texas Health have handled this.

Well if a time comes that you do need supplies, even if just a box of gloves, please forward the list and shipping address to me as well.

a reply to: marg6043

So how many days has it been since they were exposed to him? 17 days so far right? Have they not released others sooner? If everything is fine and dandy then why not do an interview with them? Istill do not trust this marg.

a reply to: Olivine

Thanks for the link…

I heard that study efore about the pigs and monkeys sharing the air. Too many variables from one study. In Reston Outbreak in Washington laid out in the Hot Zone, a monkey house that imported them for testing labs, it was proven the transmission was airborne… Good thing it was Simian and not human type.

One of the scarier parts of the book, because going in they didn't know what they were dealing with and a care taker there had contracted it. That no one else did was also perplexing.

This situation in Dallas is much more dangerous. Now there are three confirmed and everyone is holding their breath (pun intended).

I think it is still contact though (crosses fingers). If it were airborne like the flu we would have many more cases by now.

If they are being truthful about this, then the three people so far were Duncan and those present when he lay dying.

originally posted by: ValentineWiggin
Well if a time comes that you do need supplies, even if just a box of gloves, please forward the list and shipping address to me as well.

Same here TG. My offer stands. We are a Family here too, ya know.

Des

originally posted by: ValentineWiggin
Well if a time comes that you do need supplies, even if just a box of gloves, please forward the list and shipping address to me as well.

That was a really nice gesture on your part, just saying.

a reply to: SunnyRunner360

A thousand common sense posts since the beginning but people will not listen until it comes out in an official report, patouiee.

Not putting you down, glad you found the report just saying.

a reply to: antar

That is a question I can not answer, I could speculate but can not answer still the family are not rich they just depend on help to survive while waiting for quarantine to be over, still, if the hospital staff is coming down with the infections, and the family so far has none, (for what we have been told in the news), that means they probably would not, by now.

I know that Mr. Duncan had the disease before he arrived he was already infected, so if we do a time line of his arrival and possible infestation, he was infected longer than we may think.

a reply to: Destinyone
It is nice to see caring amongst the ATS family!
Kudos to both VW and Des!

a reply to: kosmicjack

i just watched that vid..now some of the stuff that is happening is so unreal. it looks like incompetence everywhere.

im trying to look at this from a different angle.

from that vid apparently some nurses are saying protocols kept changing.
medical waste was piling up cause they didnt know what to do with it
they were told to put medical tape on their neck cause they didnt have proper protective gear.

now is it even remotely possible that the protocol kept changing because they really did not know what to do?
it does not seem like this hospital stocks all the crazy gear that they should be wearing.
that said, there was a sick person there.

were they supposed to not go near him and not treat him cause they didnt have the right stuff? was it one of those deals like lets do the best we can with what we have cause we need to care for this guy?

if there was nobody to pick the medical waste up and/or they simply didnt know what to do with it or where to put it, what option did they have? what should they have done with it?

im just spit balling here...

i wouldnt think it is that common for your everyday nurses and staff at an everyday hospital to know the protocols and risks when dealing with ebola...

is that something that people at ALL hospitals should knoww?

if its not it will be after this is over

a reply to: Destinyone

Someone said he is up for re-election which is probably the reason he is up front and center.

a reply to: intrptr

Earlier, in that video, what I understood Osterholm to say, is that thorough studies of air borne transmission of ebola have never been done conclusively because the close-contact transmission sort of mucked up results. That, coupled with the extremely virulent attack on the lungs of the macaques studied in the pass few weeks, and not knowing for certain how the health care workers are becoming infected--has researchers extremely worried.

My opinion, is that it is easier politically expedient for CDC officials, and others, to blame the HCW infections on poor PPE usage, than to admit that nobody on the planet knows with certainty how this ebola strain is transmitted.

a reply to: CardiffGiant

That is unspeakable, a hospital handling an infectious disease in such manner, they need to close the hospital that is what they need to do, but politics and bureaucracy will not let that happen, they rather keep infecting personnel than stop the spread.

The CDC needs to take the people from the staff out of that place for their own safety until things get under control.

originally posted by: ValentineWiggin
Well if a time comes that you do need supplies, even if just a box of gloves, please forward the list and shipping address to me as well.

Thank you. It is much appreciated!! Everyone on here has been very supportive!

Today's news conference

Face it folks, when scientists and lab people work with ebola, they do it under special protocols that use biohazard Level 4 gear. That's even when the samples are in vials.

Here we have a living, breathing human pumping out millions of the virus in a hospital waiting room and then transferred into isolation where medical staff wearing little more than smocks, surgical masks, gloves and eye protection worked on him until he died. No surprise it is spreading.
The question is... When will the infections overwhelm the system (the system that should be working in level 4 gear) to the point where they have no where to treat new arrivals?
maybe it already has?

I had the saddest thing happen last night. My 14 yro's GF called me to ask if she was going to die?!

Now even though I talk with the grownups in my world as for the kids I continue to press the transmission of any virus at this time of year and broach the deadliness of a few of them that are antibiotic resistant.

My heart sank when this little athletic, honor student, in her quiet sweet voice asked me that almost in tears.

I told her that I have her and her entire families back, that "if" the time came to bug out, I would let them know and that they are always welcome here on the farm. Told her to remind her parents to continue making their preps, and then to live their lives, enjoy their lives.

The msm has been a chaotic mess and we here have done our damnedest to make sense of the chaos to very little avail. We have all seen where major networks have been reading and following this thread without a doubt, and they have been welcomed by us the same as any other like minded members who have steered the truth and the concerns and to ask the common sense and the critical questions all the while searching, leaving no stone unturned for answers.

The bottom line here is how to avoid fear mongering and yet stressing the importance of awareness and precautions.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: texasgirl

I hope this will ease you fears on the family of ebola man Duncan, this was posted yesterday.

Family that lived with Texas Ebola victim showing no symptoms, mayor says

The family who shared an apartment with a Liberian man who died of Ebola in Texas is showing no signs of illness, while the dog of a nurse who contracted the deadly virus is healthy and being cared for, Dallas's mayor said on Tuesday.

Thomas Eric Duncan's girlfriend, her 13-year-old son and two nephews in their 20s had been living with Duncan before he was admitted to a Dallas hospital on Sept. 28.

"So far no signs of the virus in any of them," Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings said on CNN. "We check them twice a day, and everybody's healthy."

Rawlings said none of the other people being monitored after contact with Duncan, who died on Oct. 8, have gotten sick. There is a 21-day incubation period for the virus that has killed at least 4,400 people, predominantly in West Africa.

www.foxnews.com...

So far it seems that infection is now within hospital staff in Dallas hospital, I feel that the entire hospital should be quaranteen and patients transfer to Atlanta.

Thanks for the post. My concern is we are hearing about Louise and her family form third parties and not herself. I guess I will wait until the 21 day quarantine is over to hear a public statement from her.

I am just puzzled as to why she hasn't made a statement concerning the two recently infected nurses? It is her fiancee they cared for, after all.

originally posted by: Destinyone

originally posted by: ValentineWiggin
Well if a time comes that you do need supplies, even if just a box of gloves, please forward the list and shipping address to me as well.

Same here TG. My offer stands. We are a Family here too, ya know.

Des

Thank you. Hopefully we can keep it contained. Hopefully.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: CardiffGiant

That is unspeakable, a hospital handling an infectious disease in such manner, they need to close the hospital that is what they need to do, but politics and bureaucracy will not let that happen, they rather keep infecting personnel than stop the spread.

The CDC needs to take the people from the staff out of that place for their own safety until things get under control.

i get what youre saying and i dont disagree.

just trying to look at all the angles.

from their prospective. they have no real training. no gear. maybe not the facilities to isolate and such...

they get some guy who is violently ill. the moment he came in there the 2nd time they did not know he had ebola..
so, hows it work? is there an intake nurse that checks him out to see he is really bad off? does she call some sort of code so others rush to help?
thats a lot of movement going on without knowing what they are up against...

is that how it works till they find out?

once they find out its ebola, he still needs to be treated and they dont have the right gear...

now what? do the best they can with what they have?



the hospital should have been closed but how...patients in and out...patients in various stages of treatment.
duncan there breathing ebola everywhere.

im just shooting from the hip here seeing if i can try and figure out why it is happening like it is