"Public Schools Introduce Islam" In Mississippi

Does the fact that the person or people that put this assignment together, are products of the same institutions, have any bearing on it?

I would be more offended by the Genesis version of creation being taught as anything other than religious mythology. It has no place in a science class. Learning about one of the two largest religions on the planet seems like common sense.

Everybody should know the religions that humans have created to explain creation and try to understand creation.

When teaching Judaism Kabbalah should be included. When Islam is taught Sufi should also be included. When Hinduism is taught chakras should be included.



The more knowledge the less ignorance. Also wahhabism/salafi should also be discussed so that people know why Wahhabi fundamentalist are like a Nazi version of Islam like Zionists are a Nazi version of Judaism.

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: beezzer

a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite



We're raising "enlighted", "sensitive" idiots.

Yes it's far better to raise children that are ignorant.

We're raising ignorant children NOW.

Or do you think the public school system is just peachy.

No the public school system used to be good but the Republicans had the bright idea of doubling the size of the Department of Education and then cut it's funding.

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
A question to all who support this:

Would you support atheism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Satanism, etc being taught in public schools?

Many have answered that it would be alright if they taught other religions too.

But I want to see exactly how many don't have a problem with it, but might have a problem with other faiths/belief systems being taught.

I would like the double slit experiment with probability waves to be added to Atheism to show the mysterious that is found in Atheism also so that they can compare it to the mysterious discussed in the other religions. If you add Sikhism, Shinto and Hinduism and native American beliefs then I would agree to it. Teaching of every religion not conditioning/brainwashing to follow a religion

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
This is completely sick.

Obamas true intentions could never be clearer.

what?....these are school districts making these decisions...President Obama has no say in what is taught in a particular school district, if you have proof he is doing this, give it. this is probably some type of propaganda by right-wingers with the election being just 4 weeks away.

I thought teaching religion in school was a violation of church and state?
To be honest though, I have no problem with students being taught religion. As long as it's ALL religion, it's not a required class, and it's as unbiased as humanly possible.

My reasoning for this is because people fear what they don't know. And children are impressionable. I'm sorry but we shouldn't be judging people based on their religion. You judge people based on their qualities. How they treat people.

We could end the fear.

a reply to: staple

Klingons killed their gods.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Allah was a pagan name for a peculiar pagan Arabian deity in pre-Islamic times.

Just learn a little Arabic and see how wrong you are.

Nothing being sold to buy.

Its up to you to know or not and show yourself as being ignorant on a subject you seem be quote vocal about.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: ownbestenemy
a reply to: cloaked4u

Its not about learning a religion...it is learning about human and society history.

A valid point, but I think mathematics might be a tad more important than islam and anything to do with it.

So mathematics should be taught in every class? Only teaching one thing in school doesn't make for a well rounded education.

Can you please bloody find where I said that? I mean ffs buddy - find where I said that.

I think you know what I said, as well as what I meant and are just being unnecessarily antagonistic to members.

originally posted by: StoutBroux

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: desertguy
a reply to: desertguy

I am not against Islam I just would not want it to be taught to my children.

You are so wrong. Just try preaching Christianity.



So your children shouldn't learn what it is, what it says, and have some knowledge base to understand what people mean when they say "Islam"???

Ignorance is the solution?

Get real. They aren't trying to indoctrinate kids, they're trying to educate them about the world.

Nope, not allowed to teach about religion in schools. The liberals made it illegal, no symbols or even the generic phrase in God we trust is not allowed.

Parents need to threaten to pull their kids from these schools, money talks.

You're completely wrong.

Learning about religion is part of the curriculum because it's a huge part of our history. Trying to convert people is not acceptable.

There's a big difference. Teaching people about religion is not the same as trying to get them to follow it.

You are so wrong. Just try teaching Christianity.

Christianity is taught in public schools. There is a quote from the principal in this thread stating that the class covers Christianity along with several other religions.

Stop playing the victim card and do a little research. Again, there is a difference between educating someone and attempting to change their belief system. Unfortunately, many religious people don't understand the difference.

a reply to: Answer

While all of that is quite valid, the fact remains that kids have better and more important things to learn than religion.

originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
I thought teaching religion in school was a violation of church and state?

There's a woeful amount of ignorance regarding the actual meaning of "separation of church and state." That phrase is actually not in the Constitution and the First Amendment merely states that there will be no legally recognized official religion and that laws can not prohibit people from freely exercising their chosen flavor of Man/God relationship.

It does not mean "thou shalt not teach about religion in class." It means "thou shalt not establish an official religion and coerce the public into following that religion."

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: Answer

While all of that is quite valid, the fact remains that kids have better and more important things to learn than religion.

You're right and they do learn those "better and more important" things.

I think that the current educational system is sorely lacking in every way. I'm completely non-religious and I feel that if our world were without religion altogether it would be a vast improvement... but I'm 100% supportive of teaching kids about the various religions so they'll have a clue how the world works.

Yeah, yeah... some of you have "no problem" with Islam in school, but one mention of Christianity in school, and suddenly you're "appalled" by the notion. It's like you're particularly afraid to condemn Islam or something, so you vainly agree with it, for liberal brownie points...

originally posted by: Kromlech
Yeah, yeah... some of you have "no problem" with Islam in school, but one mention of Christianity in school, and suddenly you're "appalled" by the notion. It's like you're particularly afraid to condemn Islam or something, so you vainly agree with it, for liberal brownie points...

Actually, I haven't seen anyone in this thread make that claim. You're inventing that one all by yourself so you can play victim like several other posters in this thread who, I assume, are Christians who consider it an "attack" whenever someone has a problem with their beliefs being forced on people.

I would have a total problem with them attempting to get students to follow Islam, Christianity, or any other religion. Simple fact is, they're not trying to get them to follow or believe anything. They're simply educating kids about the beliefs of others. Educating kids about what people believe and manipulating a vulnerable mind into following your particular flavor of religion are two totally separate things. We're talking about education versus indoctrination and unfortunately, some of you don't know the difference.

a reply to: desertguy
I found out today that my daughter when in her other language class , the teacher constantly plays mosque music through the whole class , every class , every time, she is only eight years old and tells me it is creepy and scarey music . Sometimes she breaks her pencils she said as she is so creeped out by the music.

Myself I find the sound (what little I have heard ) interesting and sad sounding and yes a bit unsettling/ spooky.
And I am an adult , so I understand her reaction. Play emotive music elsewhere thankyou.

Learning a language is one thing , having the music constantly played to a child not from that culture is WRONG.

Also this class has replaced what was her reading time , she is a good reader as I have read to her from dot.
But to replace reading and love of words (in my and my kids nature) with this music, is stupid dumb and incompetent.
she wont be doing that class any more now that I know what's been happening and we may have to change schools

Highly disappointed and been led a merry dance by the school.

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originally posted by: Kromlech
Yeah, yeah... some of you have "no problem" with Islam in school, but one mention of Christianity in school, and suddenly you're "appalled" by the notion. It's like you're particularly afraid to condemn Islam or something, so you vainly agree with it, for liberal brownie points...

so the same posters have no issues with Islam being taught but in other threads where Christianity is mentioned as being taught in schools the same posters are against it?


Are you sure or are you confused or simply making feces up?

Please do point out these posters with such contradicting views towards whats taught in schools.

This thread has been so wonderful to read.

It's hilarious that some people (some of whom even appear intelligent when posting in other threads) equate being taught about what a religion believes, it's history and culture etc with being forcibly converted.

Like learning that "There is no god but Allah" is an Islamic saying is comparable to swearing an oath of allegiance. I learned that Nazi's said "Seig Heil" but never started invading Poland.

That learning a bit about a foreign religion should be saved for university. Because you need to wait until you are 18 to not be completely ignorant. Screw your Architecture or Pharmacology lectures, it's some stuff you should have known by the age of 11 instead.

Seriously, some of you want your kids to be as thick as pig poop. There really is no hope for some of you.

a reply to: skalla

All very well but do you think they need constant music that is emotive and spooky to some in that age group.
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