Anyone else notice anything weird about the locations of the USA ebola patients?

a reply to: The Vagabond

The first thing I'll say is I'm not accusing you of having an agenda.

Thats why I apologized, I realized that overnight. Thanks for the replies.

I'm not frightened by the way. I heard a Hospice nurse say something…

We are all meant to grow old, get sick and die (shrugs)… sorry about that.

This test would only make the main operation harder to pull off.

Any attack is preceded by probes. Sure it heightens defenses for a bit. But also exposes weakness. I saw a few. They send people home rather than pollute their shiny hospitals. They inspect people at airports with a questionnaire, instead of a thermal thermometer. Dallas case lied to get past every choke point, right? They still haven't stopped flights from infected countries.

Strike one, two and three, imo.

originally posted by: windowpane
You do realize that the only lab confirmed case is the one in Dallas right? So, I'm not sure how you can argue that somehow this is staged if there's only 1 actual confirmed case.

I wonder if the OP will update his map as the cases turn out to be false alarms?
There have been around 4 of these cases confirmed as other illnesses so far. Does anyone remember the suspected case at Heathrow in London? People were saying we were being lied to but that was months ago and still no cases in the UK. People get ill and have fevers all the time, it's more likely to be another illness.

If only one or two cases remain definite it means there is no 'pattern' on which to base a theory. I also don't get why whoever is supposedly orchestrating a planned attack would even bother organising for Ebola victims to turn up at certain locations. Ebola is rampant in West Africa, all that needs to be done is to continue to let flights come in from this area and we will get cases....no complex planning, organisation, paying people to come over on planes needed.

Personally I think the reason flights are still going comes down to cold hard cash. It's less expensive (financilally and in terms of lives) to tackle a few cases of Ebola for our government than shut off all the flights and business coming from Africa. They don't want to lose money and that is more important to them than a few lives.

a reply to: intrptr

But the entire point of the probe is to make sure the attack succeeds. If the probe and the attack are the same, the probe itself will be the attack. This is why Enola Gay wasn't preceded by another lone bomber with a nuke on it that was never meant to be dropped- that would make no sense.

So if an Ebola carrying terrorist successfully enters the country and isn't quarantined, why not immediately poop on his own hands then go fondle the beef jerky bin at a gas station, then go to McDonald's and fondle the drinking cup lids, then go find a Kardashian and fondle that just to make sure the sickness really spreads far and fast?

Once you got through and knew there was poor containment there would be zero point zero reason to wait before infecting several hundred people and then moving on to the next target. You could do Dallas and Denver in the same weekend, pick up some local produce in Denver to help you get your mind off the fact that you've got Ebola and are surrounded entirely by people you hate so much that you want to give them Ebola, then head for LA by way of Salt Lake and Las Vegas- you'd need one other guy for a weekend trip down the eastern seaboard. That's it. Leave the rest to fast food and gas station men's rooms.

a reply to: The Vagabond

For all the "planners" of such an attack knew beforehand he wouldn't get very far. The above board posturing in the media has the US medical response sooo impenetrable for all they knew the guy would get stopped at the three airports he visited and changed flights on, let alone make it all the way to a Dallas hospital… twice.

I think the 911 terror pilots and crew made several "dry runs" even on the same eventual route they used to hijack the planes…

Practice makes effect.

Besides they know our media would make small of this. They even discovered that the CDC tried o hide the Dallas case for hours before admitting what the press had released. How "prepared" is that?

a reply to: intrptr

For all they knew, sure, but why not tell him "hey if at any point you are free and unsupervised, go ahead and spread lots of germs"?
This situation doesn't line up with malice.

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein


Well, if I know one thing. Texas is the most irritating, defiant, gun wielding, self righteous, loudest and proudest state that America has. If I were the Illuminati, that is certainly where I would get Ebola started, to weaken the nation from starting with the most defiant state. Sorry, if I offended anyone from Texas, the state itself is pretty nice, but the people I met there had less than decent manners or class. Let's face it, when all of the US hates Texas, and the rest of the world hates Texas...there's a reason for it, and it's not that the whole world is jealous. I'm just saying, this is the perfect place to start the Ebola virus, if you are wanting to weaken a country's pride, and break their morale

a reply to: The Vagabond

"hey if at any point you are free and unsupervised, go ahead and spread lots of germs"?

What do you make of his having "close contact" with children from four different schools?

That struck me as an odd occurance. Maybe its just me…

The problems encountered with spreading it are more complex than just wandering around touching things. The host needs to exhibit symptoms to be as infectious as possible, but will also be experiencing the ravages of the disease, which may limit his ability to "get around". Theres this window of opportunity. Id say he measured up quite well. Got through the security before being symptomatic and then tested hospital defenses as well as spreading to others as much as possible.

I heard they swept up his vomit from the parking lot and threw it into the sewer grate. Mmm, rat food.

Bear in mind, I am playing devils advocate for purposes of conversation. News reports are not the best source of information, we both know that.

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

I think you may be right. If this were an attack, it is a perfect one. However I read on another site, although I forget where, that the US may have done it, and that this is not really Ebola, but a weaponized form of the flu.

a reply to: intrptr

Ooh, close contact with children from four different schools. Crap it sounds like he buggered them.

I've been in close contact with children from four different schools today. I sneezed on one of them too. You go see your friend whose got a nine year old a twelve year old and a fifteen year old and if one of them has a friend from a different school visiting you're there.

a reply to: The Vagabond

Not if I'm sick…

I'd stay as far from kids as I could. My brother sends his son over here to babysit, sometimes with a cold which I invariable catch.

I would never do that to others. if I have a cold thats the worst to go to work or a friends house with four kids there.

Of course what does out Dallas case care about others. He lied to get in the country.

So you are probably right. One doesn't have to have an agenda, just be a dick.

Stay tuned.

I would like to point out that the CDC almost just admitted that the virus is airborne...nearly admitted the truth again. Another thing I would like to point out that these people are saying it's all good in Nigeria now. WHAT? They just had tons of people dying and infected, and IF Nigeria has better safety rules and regulations than we do, so much so that we can't even find a homeless man who MAY have been infected. I mean seriously how did we ever make it to the moon and how did Russia even see us a threat. I mean seriously? We can't even be smart enough to throw a few sheepeople in a big box to keep them away from the other sheepeople, so they don't get infected then again we are just sheep to these wolves. The funny thing is I ain't even mad because I just assumed that this # would happen 10 years ago.

IF this is an operation to kill the people, which would be pretty damn good timing because what is coming up this time of the year? Family gatherings, flu season, and extra cold weather. All the things to help spread a virus and kill a person faster. Not only that there is a potential that guess what you actually get the cold, and you being smart decide to not infect your family in fears that it isn't just the flu, so you mistakenly go to the hospital where they then proceed to treat you as an Ebola patient where you are then infected via poor sanitation, injected because it was all planned, or just whatever.

However, if it is a false flag and there really is no Ebola in America then when the flu hits a lot of people like it does every year then you will see hundreds of people freaking out, which I promise will cause panic in the states, which in turn will cause the government to use "necessary" force in order to deal with the "problem" so you will see more rioting, looting, and plenty of chaos in the following weeks which will then be put down by a military overlord and there you have it. One emperor of America and all the loyal minions under control. Why? because he has the cure to this false flag, which is you guessed it, nothing more than a placebo.

In addition I also have to agree that the strategical placing of this virus around the edges is a very smart, especially in Texas because that's right all of the illegals coming across the border caring that strange virus already affecting a # ton of kids including my own 2 kids, so very smart to bring in a guy and then also have some homeless man running around the streets just flinging his spit, blood and whatever else on people, which by the way there was a report back in the Ebola outbreak before this one that proved this virus was passed airborne not only that the virus spread through species, so lets just say for a second that we are bringing in oh i don't know a # ton of illegals immigrants, food, and whatever else across our borders. There is no telling what or who is infected already. I don't think there is a homeless man running around I think they have got a good way to keep people in there homes for right now down there in Texas and when the time comes right they will purposely release maybe 10 people or so who "have it" in order to scare and infect others, which will just lead to chaos...blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

Also finally isn't there a US patent on Ebola or am I just reading all these articles wrong? So if they do have it on file and they just cook up a genetic cocktail of virus whenever they want. If the government really does want us under control, what makes you think that we can find back when all they gotta do is just start lobbing bottles of this # on our doors. Seriously that's the hardest thing they can do, the easiest being a bomb, but then again they work subtly, just like God at least that is what I was told.

Anyways, lastly a question, IF you are so certain that we are being hood-winked, bamboozled, and whatever else into going along with this so they can control our lives. Why didn't we get out there more? Why did we settle for being the conspiracy theorist that were made fun of by the media? Why aren't we out there now helping people pull the scales from there eyes? Why aren't we out there telling others the truth? What because the real world doesn't agree with dissent? I thought the very idea of Liberalism was the idea of equality? The equality to speak our minds and not have judgement thrown upon us because our ideas are different from the rest, but those people seem to be the main howlers of the hatred. They are no better than the Conservatives, but at least those people learned to keep there mouth shut sometimes.

The system is unjust, but we expected the parameters of this system to change to a brighter future. If you don't like the system, change the system entirely. Remove the system and replace it with a more reliable, accountable, and appropriate one.

We aren't going to hear about any other positive cases of ebola. The only reason that any of us even heard the name Thomas Eric Duncan is because Texas decided to skip the CDC initially and tested for ebola at the independent lab in Austin. They called the CDC after they had a positive test result and the CDC proceeded to freak out that the cat was out of it's proverbial bag.

They learned very quickly what would happen if ebola was suddenly present in a large metro area when they were swamped with calls from concerned citizens and press and were being criticized for their ineptitude for dealing with ebola. The CDC has no idea what they're even dealing with and have shown as much in the last week. Now, they're not taking any chances. Every time we hear of a new positive case of ebola, a media blackout is put into effect in the area and the only stories allowed are the ones that say, "negative for ebola", "has malaria", or "was not tested for ebola". Also, "extremely unlikely". Anything else will likely gain whoever reported it a nice time in a jail cell. The CDC doesn't have the manpower to deal with cases like Duncan all over the United States. Can you guys imagine what kind if hell it would be if all the cases we've heard about in the last week were positive and we KNEW about it?

Last night in Kansas City, the only people talking about their cases were locals on Twitter, who were freaking out that their media was more worried about the Kansas City Royals than ebola. We have more of this to look forward to because our media is bought, paid for and owned by corporations and the government that serves them. The government is more worried about the economy and stockmarkets which will very surely crash if we were to have an outbreak of ebola. This is why we will never see any other reports of positive ebola until Americans are dropping dead in the streets.

We will have to do one of two things.

1. Go on with life and believe the media, CDC, and government.

2. Proceed as if we know we have ebola in the United States.

I'll be going with number 2. Because I know very well that my government isn't worried about me and never will be.

originally posted by: Petros312

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Petros312

This is ATS, a conspiracy site where conspiracies of all types are considered. Conspiracies by their very nature are clandestine and secret. We work with the evidence available.

The quote above clearly indicates that the person does not understand what it means that Ebola is a disease only transferred from body fluid to body fluid contact. With no critical thinking a person would begin to believe that by touching a paper bill handled by someone who had Ebola you put yourself at risk for being infected. That's the kind of half-truth that will lead to mass hysteria.

OK, I read the same rubbish about body fluid [bf] but now I have to interrupt. You write this BF cr4p as if we are talking AIDS or HIV. Which compared to Ebola is really not that easy to catch.

Ebola spreads by BF, which are not just vomit or blood! BF are semen, vaginal excretions, urine, saliva and sweat. Also it is NOT BF to BF, it is BF to skin!
Therefore whenever someone with Ebola sweats and puts their sweaty hands on a plastic seat, whenever they kiss someone or drink out of the same glass, whenever they have sex, whenever they pee on the rim of the toilet and you sit on it...you could catch a nice dose of Ebola.

Don't tell me that infected people who believe that they only have the flu, don't do any of the above...ever, and I might believe that it is hard to catch but humans do these things, especially when they are not aware that they may have Ebola.
Also people who think they have the 'flu' may vomit and sweat from fever. Then mum or nan comes in and clears up or even just picks up the wet clothing for washing...aaaaaand they can catch Ebola.

By the time they find out, it is far too late.

So we have to stop thinking Ebola is hard to catch. It isn't.

Ok first of all anyone still thinking Ebola can not live on surfaces or can not be transmitted through the air needs to read all studies done on the subject. Also you need to take a look at cases already reported where the victim had no close contact with victims. My worry is not the confirmed cases. My worry is the insistence by mass media and the government that we should not worry. When we are being told to worry it usually means they are scaring us into something. Bombing Syria is a prime example. They are actually keeping a lid on many cases trying to down play the situation. My main concern is that the cases that have been reported as possible Ebola are in fact just that and it is being hushed. Possible cases have been reported in:California, Hawaii, Texas, Utah, New York, New Jersey, Washington D.C., Kentucky, and Florida. In some cases such as Hawaii they refused to even test for Ebola. Think about the mass panic and all out pandemonium that would occur if it were announced that Ebola cases were positive in all these states. Is anyone else but me worried that this is a distinct possibility?

originally posted by: n4nay
Ok first of all anyone still thinking Ebola can not live on surfaces or can not be transmitted through the air needs to read all studies done on the subject. Also you need to take a look at cases already reported where the victim had no close contact with victims. My worry is not the confirmed cases. My worry is the insistence by mass media and the government that we should not worry. When we are being told to worry it usually means they are scaring us into something. Bombing Syria is a prime example. They are actually keeping a lid on many cases trying to down play the situation. My main concern is that the cases that have been reported as possible Ebola are in fact just that and it is being hushed. Possible cases have been reported in:California, Hawaii, Texas, Utah, New York, New Jersey, Washington D.C., Kentucky, and Florida. In some cases such as Hawaii they refused to even test for Ebola. Think about the mass panic and all out pandemonium that would occur if it were announced that Ebola cases were positive in all these states. Is anyone else but me worried that this is a distinct possibility?

No, you'e not alone. There are a lot of us out here that are thinking the exact same thing. Especially, with this obvious media blackout and canned, prescripted news responses to the suspected cases and their testing. They've been doing this since the beginning. Don't forget the man taken off the boat in New Orleans, along with 3 other people from that boat, and then we're told he's only got malaria. A disease that's not even endemic to either of the two stops before on that boat, and the boat was Liberian. There is likely more ebola in the states than we're being told. But, because they're afraid the stocks will crash, they will not tell us until people are dropping like flies.

I also believe all of the suspected cases of ebola are ebola. If they're not I'll gladly be wrong, but since they're not really telling us anything, and don't seem to know what they're doing, I'm going to go with the cautious assumption.

TextThe government is more worried about the economy and stockmarkets which will very surely crash if we were to have an outbreak of ebola.

I was reading only yesterday that the markets worldwide are all dropping, starting with the airlines, Big Pharma are up though!!

originally posted by: stellawayten
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
You also forgot the kid in utah.

According to Fox13, the patient has tested negative.
fox13now.com...

originally posted by: Tarzan the apeman.
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

Life just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

This made me laugh but sadly enough, this seems to be fairly accurate! Which is not funny at all, just sad times we are living in...

originally posted by: Merinda
In the recent epidemic less than half as many people died of ebola worldwide as there are gun deaths in america each year. Want me to draw up a map with sales points for guns and ammo?

No thanks...Guns can be gone, a virus that has no cure cannot. If it spreads like wild fire there is no stopping it...Guns take people pulling the trigger, a virus doesn't react with any morals or ethics...It just attacks and kills people. You are comparing apples to mud.

a reply to: The Vagabond

But the scale alone should tell you it's not an attack - If we were under attack by so much as one lone whacko with the means to buy a hotdog cart the first we heard of it would be a hundred cases in the same city, not a case here and there from travelers.

This just happened recently....What do you think will happen if this is the plan? If this happened 2 years ago, I would agree with this statement.