Still Think the World is Waking up to the Conspiracy?

Ia reply to: Tedgoat


I was a believer in the thermite theory for a while as it seemed to be the only scientific answer that could stand up against the official theory given to us by a manipulative government and an equally manipulative MSM.

None of them offered any real reason for how those towers could come down at such a speed and to not come to a stop until ground level.
That just couldn't happen. There were too many undamaged floors below the impacts. No pancake......why didn't at least one of the buildings slow down and stop ?
How did the 14 people on the stairwell survive 110 floors crashing down upon them and then walking out of there ?

Judy Wood in my opinion ticks most of the boxes with her explanation of a direct energy weapon being used.
Official theorists try to make out she's a loony but she's far from it.
Those buildings disappeared they turned to dust.
Her presentations are brilliant.

Planes didn't bring them down...nor fire.........nor thermite.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Tedgoat
a reply to: hellobruce

No proof of Molten Steel?

Very true.

If you knew anything at all about molten steel and excavators you would know you cannot pick molten steel with one....

It is simply impossible for a hydrocarbon and office furnishings fire burning in air to melt steel.... apparently some steel was even VAPORIZED that day.

Wrong again, there is zero evidence for molten steel, or steel vaporising.

You also showed a piece of steel cut during the cleanup....

Steel cut during clean up? You mean the thermite cuts? During the Demolition?



Sorry I disagree that there was no melted / Molten Steel. And these columns were the result of Thermite demolition. They are way too high for clean up crews to cut. They explain exactly how the towers fell symmetrically.

Let me ask you this? Do you think that the Official Story is true and that 9/11 was conducted by 19 Hijackers (10 that were found alive after the attack) and the dying at the time Osama Bin Laden? Or do u just disagree with the Molten Steel theory?

originally posted by: Tedgoat
Steel cut during clean up? You mean the thermite cuts? During the Demolition?

No, the thermic lance cuts during the clean up. There is zero evidence for the use of thermite.

Let me ask you this? Do you think that the Official Story is true and that 9/11 was conducted by 19 Hijackers (10 that were found alive after the attack)

Oh dear, you fell for another truther silly story!

www.911myths.com...

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Tedgoat
Steel cut during clean up? You mean the thermite cuts? During the Demolition?

No, the thermic lance cuts during the clean up. There is zero evidence for the use of thermite.

Let me ask you this? Do you think that the Official Story is true and that 9/11 was conducted by 19 Hijackers (10 that were found alive after the attack)

Oh dear, you fell for another truther silly story!

www.911myths.com...

Oh dear I think I shouldn't have asked a Official Fairy Story believer that question!

No point in discussing 9/11 with you. Your in the minority group that believes the Governments are innocent in the 9/11 attacks and the pigs do fly!

Another one?

originally posted by: Tedgoat
No point in discussing 9/11 with you.

Well, it is obvious you are not interested in the facts, you just want to believe your truther silly stories.

The motto of this website is "Deny Ignorance". Some people seem to think it is "Embrace Ignorance"!

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Tedgoat
No point in discussing 9/11 with you.

Well, it is obvious you are not interested in the facts, you just want to believe your truther silly stories.

The motto of this website is "Deny Ignorance". Some people seem to think it is "Embrace Ignorance"!

Ok then Brucey let's discuss facts.

Put up a summary list of facts please and we can discuss them!

originally posted by: Tedgoat
Put up a summary list of facts please and we can discuss them!

On 9/11 Four passenger airliners were hijacked by 19 al-Qaeda terrorists so they could be flown into buildings in suicide attack:-
American Airlines Flight 77 was crashed into the Pentagon,
United Airlines Flight 93 crashed into a field near Shanksville,
American Airlines Flight 11 was crashed into 1 WTC, the fire and damage caused it to collapse,
United Airlines Flight 175 was crashed into 2 WTC, the fire and damage caused it to collapse.

The collapse of 1 & 2 WTC caused severe damage to WTC buildings 3 through 7 and St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, The Deutsche Bank Building on 130 Liberty Street was partially damaged , two buildings of the World Financial Center also suffered damage.
Those are the facts, what part of them do you disagree with, or want to discuss?

originally posted by: Tedgoat

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Tedgoat
a reply to: hellobruce

No proof of Molten Steel?

Very true.

Steel cut during clean up? You mean the thermite cuts? During the Demolition?

That picture on the left is not thermite. It is a shaped explosive designed to cut steel.
Just denying ignorance.
Carry on.

a reply to: lambros56

Judy Wood in my opinion ticks most of the boxes with her explanation of a direct energy weapon being used.
Official theorists try to make out she's a loony but she's far from it.
Those buildings disappeared they turned to dust.
Her presentations are brilliant.

Doesn't it bother you that JW and RG never tell you exactly what did bring down the buildings?
At least JW talks about some mystical weapon that somehow takes energy from a hurricane and vaporizes a skyscraper.
But then she stops and never says how you can take wind energy from hundreds of miles away and direct it onto one building.
Warp drive is better understood than her mystical weapon.

If it existed why didn't they use it on OSB's building in Pakistan?
No risk to our troops. No link back to the US.
Was this a one use wonder weapon?
No one ever heard about it before 911.
It's never been talked about in the military circles since 911.

Nope it's a unicorn.

a reply to: samkent


It`s been used more than once in my opinion.....
Oklahoma .

As for Bin Laden in Pakistan......it wasn`t him .......in my opinion.

a reply to: PLAYERONE01

No, it wasn't the aluminum from the planes. It was aluminum cladding, which covered the Towers from ground to roof. Several hundred tons worth. Then there was zinc, lead, magnesium....a dozen or so metals found in a modern skyscraper.

originally posted by: Tedgoat

It is simply impossible for a hydrocarbon and office furnishings fire burning in air to melt steel, it just doesn't happen. Yet SOMETHING caused large quantities of molten iron and/or steel to accumulate in the basements of all three WTC buildings that collapsed to the ground and apparently some steel was even VAPORIZED that day.

WTC7 didn't have a basement. That kinda blows the credibility of your source.

originally posted by: waypastvne
originally posted by: Tedgoat

It is simply impossible for a hydrocarbon and office furnishings fire burning in air to melt steel, it just doesn't happen. Yet SOMETHING caused large quantities of molten iron and/or steel to accumulate in the basements of all three WTC buildings that collapsed to the ground and apparently some steel was even VAPORIZED that day.

WTC7 didn't have a basement. That kinda blows the credibility of your source.

WTC-7 had the first 6 floors blown out by explosives. 2 credible witnesses and Fire Fighters have detailed this fact! Read back in the comments and you will see the videos especially with the video interview of Barry Jennings who was one of the witnesses that had to be rescued by the Fire Department from the 8th floor as the first 6 were gone and the 7th too badly damaged for a rescue!

originally posted by: Tedgoat

originally posted by: waypastvne
originally posted by: Tedgoat

It is simply impossible for a hydrocarbon and office furnishings fire burning in air to melt steel, it just doesn't happen. Yet SOMETHING caused large quantities of molten iron and/or steel to accumulate in the basements of all three WTC buildings that collapsed to the ground and apparently some steel was even VAPORIZED that day.

WTC7 didn't have a basement. That kinda blows the credibility of your source.

WTC-7 had the first 6 floors blown out by explosives. 2 credible witnesses and Fire Fighters have detailed this fact! Read back in the comments and you will see the videos especially with the video interview of Barry Jennings who was one of the witnesses that had to be rescued by the Fire Department from the 8th floor as the first 6 were gone and the 7th too badly damaged for a rescue!

"The first 6 floors were blown out by explosives". "Barry Jennings who was one of the witnesses that had to be rescued by the Fire Department from the 8th floor as the first 6 were gone and the 7th too badly damaged for a rescue!"

So I am guessing there were two separate sets of explosives pre installed? If these explosives that were used to take out 6 or 7 floors were not the explosives..(or thermite, depending on your theory), used to take building 7 down, then why did they set these explosives to go off first? Maybe you figure it was to trap as many people in building 7 as possible before they set off the second charges that actually finally brought the building down?
I'm getting a headache trying to follow the logic here......
If that is your theory it failed miserably because no one died in building 7.
If it is not please explain how "explosives" were set off that took out the first 6 or 7 floors, but then hours later more explosives were set off that finally brought building 7 down.
I'm glad I left a string to follow when I chased that rabbit down the hole. People down here scare me.
I'm out......

originally posted by: Tedgoat


WTC-7 had the first 6 floors blown out by explosives. 2 credible witnesses and Fire Fighters have detailed this fact! Read back in the comments and you will see the videos especially with the video interview of Barry Jennings who was one of the witnesses that had to be rescued by the Fire Department from the 8th floor as the first 6 were gone and the 7th too badly damaged for a rescue!

So your claim is that Jennings' experience proves that the lower 6 floors were gone, huh?

Here's a pro tip : go read Jenning's statement again, and that of the firefighters that rescued he and Hess.

The FDNY led J and H down the stairs, from the 8 floor on down. The stairs were in the core area. The core area is inside the building. That is proof that your claim is false. Only an imbecile would deny that...

a reply to: Tedgoat

The building had the bottom six floors blown out by explosives...did NOT collapse....so Barry had to be rescued. And yet, the building collapsed hours later because of those explosions. oooooookay.

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

No no no......They set off the second set of thermite bombs, with that energy weapon that vaporizes steel, that gets its energy from......hurricanes, hours after the first demolition charges went off to trap Mr. Jennings.

sarc/off

a reply to: hellobruce

I am interested in facts. And I've been studying the facts for a number of years now.

The facts have one thing in common--they work against, they contradict the official story at every turn. From the aviation side to the structural engineering and other issues, the facts contradict the official story.

a reply to: hellobruce

None of those "facts" you list can be proved. Not one.

UA93 was still in the air and communicating within the ACARS system 30 minutes after it supposedly crashed in PA. And of course nobody at Shanksville could actually find the damn airplane, so how could it be there?

a reply to: Salander

Will you please provide proof for your "facts"?