Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

Here, check it out, Norman Spinrad's starship-drive has something for everyone.

Unlike the technological focus of many science fiction novels, Kane claims the exact nature of space travel is not understood; the ship's interstellar drive is powered by the psychic energy of a young woman pilot.

Theodore Sturgeon explained the "erotic form of space travel" in the Los Angeles Times Book Review:

"Spinrad's ingenious space-drive has the ship's machine create a field . . . which at peak and at captain's command melds with the pilot's psyche, causing the ship to cease to exist in one spatial locus and reappear in another." During transit, the pilot experiences orgasm.

The Void Captain's Tale 1983

Been fun, folks.

Thanks for being a good host, Baddogma.

a reply to: Bybyots

Signing off just as I return? Can you smell my travel stink from there?

I would hope that now the thread has dipped into a certain obscurity, certain lurkers will come out to play... eventually.

But bye-bye bybyots... see you in and around.

ETA and thanks for that link and other stuff... I missed Spinrod in all my sci-fi reading (who woulda guessed) ...

a reply to: Baddogma

Yeah, I don't have anything else to really add, and I have been pushed to the limits of my understanding of all of this.

I don't know if I mentioned it here, but one last thing that I find interesting is that #SNIPPED'S# Tale, paxnatus' black-triangle/hexagon thread, and ForgottenLanguages' "PSV deltoids" all are pre-dated by, and leverage elements found in the report produced by Project Condign.

And that's about it.



P.S. That, and I am constantly fascinated by the endless flow of these at ATS. I think we need to poll the forums.

Thanks again.

a reply to: Bybyots
What do you mean when you say pre dated by, pre dated by who?
Just curious so I can look into it more.


Peace.

a reply to: Lichter daraus

Sure,

Project Condign was completed between 1997 and the year 2000 when it concluded with the report called Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region.

The elements such as black triangles and some electromagnetic influence on human brains are key components of the report and predate the three stories I mentioned by more than a decade.

pre-dated by who?

The author of the report.

originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: Lichter daraus

Sure,

Project Condign was completed between 1997 and the year 2000 when it concluded with the report called Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region.

The elements such as black triangles and some electromagnetic influence on human brains are key components of the report and predate the three stories I mentioned by more than a decade.

pre-dated by who?

The author of the report.

Great source material to base a theory upon to attract attention. Explains the 75%/25% he mentioned. He believed it and used it as grounds of proof while dropping the 25% lie that he was part of it. Problem is this project can't be verified leaving his fiction 100% a lie.

a reply to: Bybyots

Thanks, the way I read it made it seem like you forgot to say who did it.
Got it now though. Man this rabbit hole has got all kinds of twists and turns, I love it.


Peace.

So, now im wondering why we cant bring up astro, he isnt banned. Also if this is all a hoax and isn't able to be verified how is he not banned?

a reply to: Lichter daraus

Discussing another member that has left the planet and is therefore unable to post in defence of his claims is fraught with potential T&C violations hence the confusion.

Seriously though- I suspect initially folks were concerned an ITK had revealed info that could cause implications to the site - but then they went through post history more thoroughly and simply saw someone going on a bit of a journey- of the reality boundary dissolution variety.

In terms of hoax- well it's a bit heartless to punish someone if they actually believe what they are saying...hoax or not.

Generates some traffic, does have some sound technological research (probably the result of hours of obsession) , alerts you to veracity , is enjoyable to read and engages several member on a number of levels- no ban needed for me.

BTW did anyone ever review the provided photos properly?
One gigantic bit of evidence (Secret Civilisation Member provides forum with photo of a UFO and further info) but no proper review....I cant even find them posted on any other forum except this..

Just about every other UFO photo on this site has pages of analysis yet this is probably one of the better ones (probably one of the the best ever of a "Triangle"!) with a full back story and everyone in the later stages of this thread is interested in seep paralysis??



Pics:

originally posted by: Astr0

a reply to: Bybyots

Evidently, you've not experienced the disappearing PMs syndrome. It does exist here.

a reply to: htapath
Pm's dont sit in your inbox forever, zaphod already explained that a few pages back.

Peace.

a reply to: Lichter daraus

Discussions of other members, banned or not are against the T&C.

a reply to: Jukiodone

I dont want him banned this is a great story I wish he was still around to answer questions.
Others have been banned for far less. I mean look at john lear his story was just as good and he was banned.
Far as im concerned this guy is still here under a different account having a good laugh about all this.

Peace.

a reply to: Lichter daraus

John Lear was NOT banned. Look him up on the member list. He's still there.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Guess I didn't realize it applied to active members too, sorry and thanks for letting me know.

Peace.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Oh ok, I was reading a blog of his where he says he was banned, but he may have said post banned.

a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Look, I'm a good citizen of the free world. You have 2 choices. 1. He has some new type of personality disorder that was discovered right here or 2. He is piloting a giant nuclear powered triangle and traveling the stars.

if noone else was citing the blue sphere i could maybe chalk it up to some kinda mental disorder, sure
/shrugs
..maybe he and i shoulda got lotto tickets instead?

i don't know what this stuff is
i just know some parts mentioned are real
(afaic)
/shrugs

Do you experience sleep paralysis by any chance?

umm, i experience lots of things

originally posted by: Jukiodone

Secret missions to retrieve/manufacture things in Space....Hmmmm -the theme seems to be an old ATS favourite- the article even links back to an ATS thread on another relevant to our current interests favourite: Anti-Gravity : www.abovetopsecret.com...

Lots of smoke. Cant see the fire.

I know what you mean--cough, cough! Good detective work and digging, btw. So, I followed your lead and came away feeling the same thing. Hal Puthoff was mentioned too and that's a whole 'nuther can of nuts. He was included in the so-called Team of 5 surrounding the Serpo mythology and it's promotion and various anti-gravity/exotic propulsion offerings that were (many say) suspect.

So, that patent...didn't do much for ya', Juki?


BTW, I'ma email Obama the good news, maybe that ISIS big dog too: Just sign up at ATS and you can NEVER be discussed no matter how many people you deceive or even kill. Barry O gonna like the idea dont'cha think?

a reply to: The GUT

Hal Puthoff was mentioned too and that's a whole 'nuther can of nuts.

True. A lot of intellectual disconnects going on with all of that group and the associated names. In particular, have you listened to any of the old Russell Targ interviews? It doesn't makes sense that something as purportedly successful as RV is so unrepeatable by anyone else.

The lack of success is always put away by alleging a lack of belief in RV. This raises the question of how anyone had success in the first place?

originally posted by: Kandinsky

The lack of success is always put away by alleging a lack of belief in RV. This raises the question of how anyone had success in the first place?

I think it was Jessica Utts (?) that truly put the nail in the RV coffin. If I remember correctly she went in somewhat sympathetic, but showed the testing and results flawed. The "judging" criteria was obviously loose just from a layman's perusal of the literature. There were those biggies we've been told about though.

That's where I start to wonder about the Scientology connection and the beginnings of militarized RV: Puthoff, Swann, and Pat Price all three high-level Scientologists. When I consider the sophistication of Operation Snow White, who knows what secrets could have been fed to "legitimatize" its worth and get funding for the project:

Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's internal name for a major criminal conspiracy during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members, in more than 30 countries.

It was the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history with up to 5,000 covert agents. This operation also exposed the Scientology plot 'Operation Freakout', because Operation Snow White was the case that initiated the US government investigation of the Church.

Under this program, Scientology operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices, most notably those of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. Eleven highly placed Church executives, including Mary Sue Hubbard (wife of founder L. Ron Hubbard and second-in-command of the organization), pleaded guilty or were convicted in federal court of obstructing justice, burglary of government offices, and theft of documents and government property.

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