Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Yeah, the tech implies incredible agency to whomever has access and it scares people... as it should.

But the decision to deny 99% reality is not tenable, either.

A dilemna ... or, thanks to whatever tech or force of nature that changed reality for some of us, a dilemma.

I can see the need for one govt to get it all under one roof... but the model for the singular govt they are using is flawed in the current rulers favor, of course. Perhaps they are getting advice from a hive mind or AI that doesn't understand human need as individuals within a group? Our individualistic "flaws" may be our only real asset.

Oh, to be a microdrone on the wall of the conferences...

a reply to: Baddogma

Our individualistic "flaws" may be our only real asset.

I like the idea of flaws being assets. Our flaws are what make people different and interesting. Otherwise the world would just be a lineup of Barbie and Ken. Most people have a 'charm point' that makes up for there flaws. Kinda hard sometimes to find a charm point in some people though admittedly.

I like the idea of diversity too. In Nature diversity is a good thing, while monoculture leads to trouble and colapse. I look at a one world this or that as monocultural trouble.

I can see the need for one govt to get it all under one roof... but the model for the singular govt they are using is flawed in the current rulers favor, of course. Perhaps they are getting advice from a hive mind or AI that doesn't understand human need as individuals within a group?

Hmmm, of late I am starting to wonder just to what extent "aliens" are involved. I know there is a lot of ill feelings from some quarters to be blammed for the cattle mutilations. One of the MIC's more spectacular mistakes.

Yeah, advice from somewhere so it seems. Probably some folks who have their own agenda. If the advice is to blame innocent parties as a coverup, then that says volumes about the advisors morals and ethics. One should expect to be conned when dealing with conmen. I reckon 'they' understand human needs very well, one might even say; too well.

All a big mess ain't it. They have dug a hole for themselves.



Maybe I am just a tad hard in my opinion of the "outside party". Letting people jump to conclusions and not correcting misconceptions is not exactly dishonesty. Letting the misconception go on too long and gaining a life of it's own, is on the otherhand, not conductive to a lasting relationeship.

And really, who's idea exactly was it of mutilating cattle and blaming the "aliens". That might have some twisted logic in keeping people scared and inline with the narrative. That may have been the MIC's "good idea".

originally posted by: NewNobodySpecial268
a reply to: yuppa

Went shopping and cleared my head.

"Instrumentality", the homogenization of individual human consciousness into one, has been ongoing since the introduction of the monotheistic thinking.

That went hand in hand with all the culling of seers (psychics) from the human herd. The seers are the real threat to instrumentality. They are the ones who can see straight through lies.

The religions did the early culling and laid down the dogma. Science is a progression there in the relay. Science is also giving us AI and the big cities while depopulating the rural.

Throw in a one world religion and one world government under control of one computer network and we start to see instrumentality becoming possible when they extinguish the individual thinking completely.

The reincarnation beaurocracy decides who is born and who is not. They are not all powerful. Alice's maternity hospital where the culled dead seer kids are now being born again proved that to me.

All we needed was a 'big and ugly friend' to watch over the project to keep the PTB away. That is "Clover" (DP-2147?) and the threat of a "Cloverfield scenario" by the way yuppa. That recent development surprised the heck out of me.

So indtrumentality seems to be a thing in the scheme of things.

The wild card seems to me to be time.

Back in the 1960s/1970s New Zealand author Bruce Cathie did a lot of work on harmonics and UFOs.

In one of his books he said the discovery of element 108 would be the key to time. That probably means someone has a TV set with a date dial next to the channel dial.

That brings us to "CERN and Steins:Gate".

I stay away from CERN out of politeness and because there was help from that direction for my deceased kids when I needed it most. From that one can deduce that instrumentality and time are not exclusively the same group. Probably not is my opinion.

The other area I stay right away from is the "Missing 411".

I understand that "cattle mutilations" are the work of the same group, or perhaps a subsiduary, of the 411s. Where the 411 is the testing of technology upon random people.

The same as any technology developement. The developement phase using "test subjects" will always horrify people. So it is vitally important to keep things under wraps until the finished prototype is ready for production use. If indeed it is ever let known it exists.

The BBTUFOs could be unvieled one day. I cant see any real reason why not.

Antigravity and invisibility is one thing. Invisibile battleships appearing out of nowhere is a frieghtening idea. So is the idea that there is no such thing as privacy. Even worse is the idea of people disappearing at any given time or place.

In this scenario, where time and temporal technology exists, one would have to have a very disciplined and controlled society. The smaller the better in the first practical sense.

That reminds me of the hackneyed phrase "you are not ready yet" often said in connection to the aliens. That may translate into "you dont yet have complete control over your people to have this technology".

That is if the aliens dangle time technology like a carot on a stick.

Now in the scenario of 'ALICCE and Relearned Knowledge', or simply just developing the technology on one's own without help, the same problem would be there: how do we keep control?

Well the time i was originally in we were still human shaped and were not tang yet,but we did have issues with huge bio mechanical weapons being used by the remaining nations on earth.DARPA had perfected the G bombs so cracking their armor wasnt that hard to do anymore. Just the collatorral damage was excessive at times. people flat as pancakes,lost limbs,that sort of thing.Needless to say i learned to keep my yap shut to prevent another slip of tech.

Is it weird that changing stuff in the past alters your future memories?

CERN was still around then,but it was militarized. rail gun artillery as a bonus to being a super collider. Their chief enemy was the Instrumentality project.No one remember when their rivalry went hot though. prolly after the rk's left in 2032 or so.Still these memories might now be faulty after the changes i made to my familys line.

AS to 411. Mutilations stopped for some reason. people vanishing though picked up. normally in 3rd world countries with broken govs,and in anrachy.People no one would miss.rumors persisted that the bio creatures were captured followers from 411.Who the heck knows except ALICCE for sure.My theory is 411 stole tech from the cloverfield designers.

a reply to: yuppa

The old manta the future is set in stone, and we just living it does not ring true for me.

From memory, the Arabs have a similar saying for it is written . . .but add not everything is written.

We mortal folk can "f-up" the plans of mice and men.

Interesting what you say about the drop in mutallations and pick up in 411s. Sounds like someone's research is progressing.

Clover is a mystery. You probably followed along there as it happened.

She is truly a wild card in the scheme of things. That one is full of civilisations turned to stone.

ALICCE aside, Clover's bait is knowledge. Like a deep sea angler fish dangling a "worm" and swallowing the inquisitive whole.

Hi Guys,

it's Sunday and I made myself a new avatar, so behold you're the lucky chosen ones I am going to ramble to now for a very long post so I can see said avatar in its full length.

When thinking about those triangles (I have sadly zero personal experiences) my head wants to dwell on what X (I believe it was KPB? could also have been TEOT or Reverbs, I don't know anymore) said:
that the thing had rivets and was ultra quiet.

And the whole topic is very machine-heavy isn't it?
I like to ignore the super-advanced tech stuff most of the time, because I just focus on the mostly psychological effects of (all the) phenomena (related? or not?).

But on the other hand it shows up again and again throughout my whole journey, like (one of) the first story I liked was the Black Knight Satelite and I mean... it's just so good, right?
The retrograde AI/probe circulating Earth, sparking the interest of the first guy (J.V.) who introduced a true systematic review of the phenomenon...

Since I personally & honestly do feel the phenomenon wants to be figured out. The fact that disclosure/contact hasn't happened yet is I believe not due to intentions of the other or gov or whoever but because our intersection with the "world of the other" is very small.

I would bet my life that we are missing a huge part of what is still out there. Is consciousness the answer? Yes and no. Is technology the answer? Yes and no.
It has to all come together. Like what that TrueAmerican wanted to attempt, what KPB achieved and what we who want disclosure really should think about imho is:
The scenario in those 3-body-problem books.

What I mean is: our universe could really be information based. Consciousness could be indeed property of all things effecting their surroundings and double as information processing devices.
As deeply into the fabric of the multiverse enscripted code we got no clue is even there beyond our subjective experience, but that lays wide open in front of everybody who enters our collective field/noosphere.

With that in consideration it really looks like we should once and for all throw that "they are hostile" bs out of the window, because you don't spend that crazy amount of time (which might in the case of interdimensional contact much more relative than to us linear folks but still...) to spoonfeed a bunch of insane monkeys drips and drops in sizes they can digest to lead them on the road of revealing yourself without before mentioned monkeys to fall on their knees and get a submissive-gasm, or the opposite and go Berserker, if you just want to wipe them out or any such a thing.

...just a little Sunday thinking. Have a great day!




the whole pic, because it's just too cool

a reply to: Peeple

Since I personally & honestly do feel the phenomenon wants to be figured out.

I like your thinking there. Looking back on my experiences it has all been a game in many respects. The Phenomenon wants to play. I think that is going to be the most fruitful approach.

I doubt "they" will land on the white house front lawn, I think more likely it will be individual effort. Like TrueAmerican is wanting to do.

What is the story with the photo?

Just have to share…

I think that a_0 was telling the truth about the tris being grown from a flake of graphene. It explains a bunch of stuff about the observed characteristics.

I mean, if the craft is quantum mechanical in nature then having something like a spotlight occur upon the surface could be explained by the QM interaction with reflected light back to your eyes.

It wouldalso be easy to convert all electric signal into 2D and then let it envelop the craft. You “plug in anywhere” and let wave guides filter out all other signals. Ambient light hits the back, gets translated down to 2D, “walked from the back to the nose” then recombined with it regularly scheduled frequency and sent on its way.

Waveguides are what is important. It means that the interior is shielded. And they could use space based solar power for a supply.

And I am sick and tired of guessing how it works!!

Everything is a wave…

🌊

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Pep-Talk:

You're the Best
You're the Strongest
You're the Smartest

if anyone can do it it is you

XOXO we'll figure this # out soooo hard

On the matter of rivits.

Someone once said to me regarding the Philidelphia shenanigans that wharf workers saw the impression of a ships hull in the water, complete with rivit impressions. A big hole in the water.

So perhaps the odd early midel tri might be metal plated.

originally posted by: NewNobodySpecial268
On the matter of rivits.

Someone once said to me regarding the Philidelphia shenanigans that wharf workers saw the impression of a ships hull in the water, complete with rivit impressions. A big hole in the water.

So perhaps the odd early midel tri might be metal plated.

Or the surface of the graphene is bumpy in places like rivets or all over,to aid in plasma and wind resistence.

a reply to: yuppa

Dunno myself yuppa. The tech is the providence of you guys who were there in the day.

This has to be the biggest lot of rubbish I've ever read. Is it fan fiction? What rot. Still if it makes you think you are part of secret knowledge (which you aren't) then more power to you I say. But it really is second rate sci-fi fodder. Whoever wrote this pulpy trash doesn't seem as if they've read much more than 2001 in the science fiction genre either. Also the artificial intelligence would have a clichéd female name wouldn't it? The fact that presumably sane people have been taken in by this shows how far we've regressed as a society of supposed rational adults.

a reply to: ethnicpurity

lol
hi there, are we having a super important moment today?
"I'm going to tell these strangers on the internet how I see it and they will all see my superiority and change their silly ways" is that about the thought process you put in your post?

a reply to: Peeple

The thing is, they are exactly right! It IS puerile and cliched... in general.

It's the details and testimony by people I knew (digitally, anyway) for several years- along with a couple personal instances- that makes me consider it.

But hey, if it gives someone an ego boost on a down day, it just might be worth it!

a reply to: Baddogma

I think ALICCE is a cool acronym. It describes something, It's a girl's name because ships and storms are ALWAYS named in the feminine. Plus the name links straight out of Throigh The Looking Glass, and the pommie voiced girl AI in Resident Evil.

Wonderful!

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

In my research over the years what ever craft or 'method of travel' these creatures/humans/ets/ultra Terrestrials all seem to hide themself very very well when they are trying to keep a low profile or something we cant imagine, maybe just soaking up our electrical emissions and watching us and learning how the major military's work.

I think some of these craft if not most come from right here on/around earth and have been here for a VERY VERY long time, possibly longer than humans.

They hide from government craft(sometimes, seems like they are playing rather than engaging out US aircraft) and people but then they will for no reason i can think of show themselves to random people(maybe not so random) and most of these encounters are very very close up.

I have seen other odd things in my life but nothing as solid and 'real' as some of the orbs i have seen and the BT i saw.


I have always wondered about the orb thing as that was in the woods and i would lie to you if i didnt have a little part of me that thinks something else happened that night, why else come to with in 1-3 feet of me? and why me?


anyway


I think we are not the bottom rung on the so called 'food pyramid' but i know were not the top

sometimes predator's(like cats, bears, pac's of animals) like to mess with their pray before taking it


i just want a ride and to meet the person flying them face to face not in the middle of the night in a dark bedroom, they have been watching us for maybe as long as humans have clamed out of the trees and into the savannah of africa and other places.

I have also wondered if some people i know still in the military or other organizations are just messing with me when they happen to know im around.

the BT however was THE most impressive technical feat i have ever seen.

what ever is running those craft even the little orbs and tic tacs WOULD change the Earth forever

i have a sneaking feeling what ever the tech is it is related to 'nuclear' stuff(like the standard model) not Alpha, Beta, Gamma, or xrays as mush as the forces that make natter solid from our point of view.

the fact that NONE of the miles and miles long gravity detectors(interferometers) have detected STRONG spikes and locally means they are not using gravity as such for propulsion.

a reply to: ethnicpurity

i wish i could download my memory or play it like a movie


keep your eyes to the sky with all that's going on in the world i bet you the east coast of the US might see US and Friends fast movers keeping an eye on what certain parties are or are not doing with the gifts of thermonuclear death given by Russia to Belarus and Co.


once you see something you cant deny it might shake you up a bit thats the fun part.

a reply to: OrangeOrbs

I couldn't have put it better myself OrangeOrbs. We're on the same page.

It wouldn't surprise me though not all the BTs are of terrestrial human origin. The surveylance gear is also very impressive.

I said in another thread that if a grey showed an abductee a image of the constellation of Orion, the abductee would presume the greys are from Orion.

In the direction of Orion . . .

Thst suggests anywhere between here and there. Maybe even just above our heads in stellar stationary orbit disguised as a star. Who knows what else.

The Dalnegorsk Orb is an interesting case. The Russians investigated that one. A crash which burned for days. The investigatirs concluded it was mining rare earths from the hills in some fashion.

In many cases of encounters, I find curiosity plays a part in mant cases. Often peoole get followed home because whatever it is is curious.

Going back to a***o's original comments..... does anyone notice similarities to the account he tells and the plot of 2001: A Space Odyssey?

a reply to: mfgrizzly

Yeah.

And as I pointed out, Neal Stephenson’s, Ananthm.

But that was mostly the Orion Project stuff (way more detail).

And if you check his other posts, he was a talented writer (see short stories).

And that is the rub! With 60/49 (or however you want to split it), how much is “shine on” and how much is “disguised truth”?

Hence, science. You can not hide in basic physics. Either it works or it doesn’t. And a lot of what we’ve been told checks out (as first steps in where the tech leads to—BBT). And that is the part that makes me wonder “how?”

So we quietly talk amongst ourselves about what we can bring to the discussion.

The whole original post has a “meta” around it from the start!!