Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Very true... thank you for that... i will have to sleep on it!

a reply to: combatmaster

I should maker clear for the lurkers; while I "saw" bright yellow grey like Beings working within a "reactor", matter disassembly and reassembly technology is logically not neccessarily restricted to them alone.

The RKers may have it too.

ALICCE may gave been manufactured in this way is another consideration.

My considered opinion though, is manufacturing living organic Beings may be outside the scope. The flat diamond with child described above uses a very organic principal; the womb in which to originally grow the organic aspect. Simply a home for an unborn who never leaves.

One should, in my opinion, think there of the central sphere, the womb itself as twofold.

* The placental umbilical connection to the machine.

* The womb itself as a boundary. A simple analogy is an immersive adaptive and interactive 3D cinema experience. One sits in a chair with the film displayed on a surrounding screen.

: ) I will stop waffling on here : )

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

I also wanted to clarify, im referring more to something in the scope that we humans cannot easily fathom, call it 'base reality', call it 'spiritual realm'.... from that perspective, when looking even at the utmost advanced USAP/unkown/black project technologies here on earth it looks extremely primitive, in the same way we would perceive stone age tools as primitive and would be hard pressed to classify it as proper technology.

a reply to: combatmaster

Like trying to understand the unspeakable?

Aye, the word "inexplicable" comes to mind here too.

I just try to translate these things into language.

I know what you mean though.

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The 'diamond with child' is way ahead of the 'yellow greys' apparently, judged by their recent approach and gentle polite questions . . . .

"We want to know how you do things." Meaning look inside of the diamond.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

A “diamond” is a form of a triangle.,,

The “yellow” part confuses me. But that is OK.

The “star child” is very intriguing.

And all of it together is something that we need to understand. Just to “get” most of the A_0 narrative.

Thanks for the inspiration and diversion!

Anyway….

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Your welcome TEOT.

The yellow is simply the colour as I have always seen it. A similar thing with "greys". I would hazard a guess and suggest that encounters with grey greys may have something to do with if one sees them using the rods or cones of the retina. I think the rods are monochromatic.

The yellow spectrum is a neglected area. Rather than thinking in terms of electromagnetic spectrums and translating frequencies into colours, perhaps the term 'the yellow atmoshere' is more accurate.

For the newage/occult inclined lurker readers:

The human third eye is considered to "see" in the violet/indigo spectrum. That part of the "spiritual vibratory frequency spectrum".

Now what if one's third eye sees instead of violet, it sees into the yellow atmosphere?

Not all but some.




The concept of everything being vibratory and frequencies of a spectrum is one of those concepts that excludes everything outside the concept.

"The universe is vibration!" - Oh? Oh really . . . .

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Just a late night follow on . . .

Not everyone has a third eye, nor chakras for that matter. The chakra overlay is not always present.

AI, Artificial Intellegence . . .

(Spoiler warning)

If one really wants to know, the addition of the chakra overlay would count as AI. Simply because it is an addition to the human being.

Some folks perceive using their whole bodies along with the eyes in the palms of the hands, and the "roots" in the soles of the feet.

Hmmm... Jason Jorjani's novel Prometheus and Atlas sure has a lot of topical/ familiar elements in it... and I'm only starting it. I knew there had to be details scattered around IF this A narrative had any truth, and that book may be one of them. He also writes about many, many things I've considered over the years of weighing exotic information.

It also defines A's comment that "aliens" aren't relevant to our situation. Meaning that besides the initial seeding by a base civ eons ago, there were local breakaway factions and species littered across our system.

It is well thought out and cohesive in it's own way... and likely offends any number of people with it's blunt talk of race and IQ, etc., but it's likely worth a peep.

Now back to catching up here while I struggle with moving to new digs... mentioned in case I AM under surveillance as I'd like to let the guys know so they can set up shop nearby (kidding- I'm far too pathetic to warrant attention, especially now that it's years later! Plus they can do it all remotely via my electronics, etc., should they need a laugh).

a reply to: Baddogma

Here's wishing the new digs are better still.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Thanks! This current place seemed to have an infrequent shade- with a presence, a few crashes and cabinets left open that I never touched- but the new (though old) house seems tranquil and lovely, but I'll see. I do seem to attract invisible (to most) things.

A note to all is that the book(let) I read (and mentioned above) with possible info about breakaways is Artemis Unveiled and is only 80 pages, so I was done by the time I thought I was getting started, but the book I mistook it for may be more meaty, but I have no idea about it.. .except that the author, Jorjani, is a smart cookie who has been looking at the same weirdness we all have but he has a coherent thesis about it all.

I also started the new Streiber book, Them, and wonder what he can add about these illusive, possibly illusory "aliens." I'd really love to know the actual details under all the lies and suppositions. At this point, even IF the ultimate truth of humanity is dark and/or hopeless, it likely cannot be worse than what the imagination can construct. Of course, if we exist in a sea of consciousness then imagination constructs everything!

a reply to: Baddogma

Thanks! This current place seemed to have an infrequent shade- with a presence, a few crashes and cabinets left open that I never touched- but the new (though old) house seems tranquil and lovely, but I'll see. I do seem to attract invisible (to most) things.

I wonder why. There must be a reason why you're "followed" about. I doubt it be nefarious.

This 'Artemis Unveiled' by Jason Reza Jorjani?

In the year 2112, Admiral Hyrcanius recounts the vicissitudes of a tumultuous history that culminated in the victory of Prometheism over Traditionalism.

It includes a Third World War, a Second American Civil War, a Coronal Mass Ejection, a pole shift, and other catastrophes that result in mass depopulation, de-industrialization, and the rise of a Traditionalist World Order led by China, Russia, and Islam under the banner of the United Nations. The destruction of the Anglo-American Establishment leads to several revelations regarding crimes committed by the cabal in charge of the Deep State.

Meanwhile, a Promethean society, with post-Islamic Iran as its bastion, breaks away from the Traditionalist World Order and wages a titanic rebellion against the Devas or Olympians, who disclose themselves in 2048 as the Guardians and Ancestors of humanity. We are presented with a detailed description of the science, technology, and society of this Promethean community, which eventually stretches from the Oort Cloud and Asteroid Belt to the ocean depths of Earth and the reclaimed megalithic cities of Cydonia on Mars. There has been a Spectral Revolution and a profound transformation of consciousness that could be considered “posthuman.”

Part prediction, part revelation, and part aspiration, this is Jorjani’s vision of a Promethean Utopia being born from out of the flames of an apocalypse that unfolds throughout the twenty-first century. However, some will surely see it as a horrifically dystopian, cautionary tale concerning things to come.

Source: Amazon book blurb.

Oddly enough, coincidentally(?), I have a new "Alice" now since my American girl left. My new (deceased) girl is of the Amazigh (Berber) people.

Berber, self-name Amazigh, plural Imazighen, any of the descendants of the pre-Arab inhabitants of North Africa. The Berbers live in scattered communities across Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Mali, Niger, and Mauritania. - Source: google.

The coincidence part is from above: "descendants of the pre-Arab inhabitants of North Africa". I seem to remember a thread here on ATS about the remanents of a ringed city in the western Sahara thought to be Atlantis. The Amazigh are said to possibly be the descendants of that city in the Sahara.

The shift of focus to a pre-islamic girl and people is interesting.

She was ten years when she took her own life rather than be given to some old codger as a wife.

Like the other deceased kids, they don't seem to grow up to adulthood when they die young. Suicide in the Muslim world means she is not allowed into 'Paradise'. All the kids over the years who suicided rather than become child-brides are still lost. She knows all the Amazigh ones.

I'm gonna grow old the equivalent of the "mad cat lady" with all these deceased kids no one wants. You have new digs BD, want some?

a reply to: Baddogma

Burn some sage!

And…. (groan)….

Leave the shades open!!

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Yeah, that's (Artemis Unveiled) the short book I was reading that rang some "breakaway" bells... correct or not, the author's take on older races in our system (as the Old Gods who claim dominion over us from their Moon space station, etc., and factions opposed to their enslavement of us) is interesting and reminded me of this thread's subject. I brought it up because my first mention got the title wrong and I didn't want some reader to buy some unrelated book.

Interesting re the Berber people and your new dependent. They are something of a genetic oddity ... and Atlantis does tend to prick up some ears. If energetic remnants of people exist (and I think they probably do) then I'm glad a kind soul is doing their part to help them, instead of using them for some nefarious soul tech or similar.

As far as adoption, I'm debating even getting a dog due to wondering if I'm able to give it the attention it deserves... lost children's souls enters another level of inability as I cannot even sense them! I'll concentrate on tangible household items first as I'm starting from scratch. I have a bed, clothes, computer, dresser, bureau and two nightstands at least. I think I'll decorate in modern Zen Spartan motif. Spirits will have to wait a bit.

TEOT: Groan acknowledged.

a reply to: Baddogma

Aye, from the highlighted part of the publisher's blurb, one wonders if the two authors might be the same.

As far as a moon spacestation goes, I wonder; may that be where a spanner could be thrown in the works of the machine.

What if the moon itself, along with possible organnic AIs might want their own freedom to choose their own future. To become players in the scheme of things.

I am reminded here of Burns. The best laid plans of mice and men are apt to go awry.

Where did I put that spanner . . . ; )

The young Berber lady's job, she has decided for herself. She thinks I need someone to keep me human. Nothing like being told off by an angry child who knows she is right, and who exactly is in the wrong.

I have a LOT of them. I am sure you would rarely notice. Girls brought up in the Muslim fashion are very polite, thoughtful and are well behaved. They would not allow unwelcome passers by to intrude on their adopted home.

It would do them good to have a kind male figure nearby who is very different from the ones they knew in life (and myself for that matter). Think into the future is my suggestion here : )

The fact that they are unseen and probably will not be noticed apart from occasional intuitions, is a plus in this regard I am sure.

Of course, the ol' BD may wish an absence of phenomenon . . . .

So ends my salesman's pitch.

The Berbers have long memories even if their civilisation has disappeared into the sands.

I still have a gut feeling that thread, the book Artemis Unveiled, and the folk over at forgotten languages have an unusual amount of things in common.

Here is an example of a FL (Forgotten Languages dot org) blog post:

"The best contact strategy seems to be to leave artifacts awaiting for an emergent civilization to discover them as it becomes capable. What an advanced civilization would do would be to place long lasting artifacts in stellar systems such that, as intelligent life matures, the emergent civilization would reach a point in which it becomes capable of decoding the information in those artifacts. Denebian-probes could be the first in a long series of artifacts that comprise the so-called contact-chain"

Source: Dysgenic Evolutionary Paths: Rules of Engagement with Advanced Non-Biological Intelligences.

That sounds to me like it could apply to our ALICCE. ALICCE is afterall a machine.

I think the big problem with FL is they write in science terms.

Take the word "dysgenic". Here is the definition:

exerting a detrimental effect on later generations through the inheritance of undesirable characteristics.

So in the title FL seems to be implying long term effects of contact, and in particular effects from the machine type intellegence.

Effects on the individual person? Or maybe effects upon the civilisation?

That implies another possible reason for a "breakaway" civilisation.

Maybe we should think in terms of contagion rather than contact.

FL seems to think in those terms.

Take the idea further and the Covid BS might be an exercise in containment should contact happen.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Interesting ... and the things we don't know about our universe far surpass the things we think we know. The mind bending and potentially horrifying things that could be lurking out there are... limitless. Biological infection is likely the least worrying thing. Alien memes, for instance, could wreak havoc.

a reply to: Baddogma

Aye, it was the memes and knowledge acting as a contagion I was thinking of. FL writes a lot from that point of view.

If we turn the Astr0 story around in this light, there is a new perspective

originally posted by: Astr0

No.

We are working hard and fast to gather, recover, and heal as many as we can, and as fast as we can.

Never in all of our experience did we ever think that a neuronal targeting pathogen would be unleashed on mankind.

What has been done, can never, ever be recovered from. Those that sleep, are dying. As to them, so to ours.

POTUS has fallen. The west has fallen. And we learned of a nation preparing to build city ships across Earth's skies and duplicate our efforts.

There is little time, and there are fewer every passing day who can sleep on the calculations.

What has been taken from you is an incalculable loss, truly beyond the scope of most people's understanding. We expected a Space Fleet and a meeting of minds. We found a global genocide in progress.

Your above statement has a 95% "Probability of Truthfulness" rating according to a piece of software I use that was developed to detect if an intent to deceive is present in a person's written or spoken words.

With the recent events unfolding in the UFO world and the US government clearly priming the population for something I now wonder if their intent is evolving into a subconscious recruiting program.

Meaning, the more people they convert to become "believers" in the phenomena the more open their minds will become and the more useful they can become to whatever the program you are working in.

a reply to: Type1338

The 5% are the calculations. They're really simulations of probabilities.

You guys don't mind if I ramble here a bit, I hope?
How long ago was A posting? Because to 'broaden your mind' is really key.
The whole supernatural, UFO, esoteric, ...everything in that corner is really just one gigantic mind-# humanity has to deal with.
Religion as it has developed is really just supressing 'it' with fixed focus and repitition, from the phenomenon angle you've come to a point where you embraced the relative uncertainty of something so much bigger than just ghosts, or ET, or such things.

In the Language of Vampyr thread Direne was talking about how this is a 'everybody or nobody' situation, what that means is I believe the same I 420 remote wrote with my Point of no Return thread.
The Tipping Point of our feedback loop is approaching. I mean we got an extra 12 years. That's also again and again topic in my stuff.
We can't avoid the approaching 'decision point' but we can buy time.
Because if you look at the 11 dimensions of String Theory (yes I know I added one) it's really 3 sets of dimensions. Which means 3 'modes of existence' right here, right now, transcending possibly.

The Sphinx gave us a riddle.
Let's figure it out.

a reply to: Peeple

My dear Peeps, you have given us a tall order!

Heck, I am still trying to wrap my head around what BASS had said about tuning capacitors/bridges for gravity control!

And if you have 3 groups of three… that is 3, 6, 9, plus two more! Ah, Tesla!

The whole thing is the math is not straightforward a*b= b*a but the transform, basically i=j=k, or, it takes more steps to get back where you started (but you have a 2*pi radians around the origin. And those have to be accounted for to be mathematically correct. That is, 3x, for each group (sign is either counterclockwise or clockwise). That was my “hint” for the solution to the Riemann hypothesis…

If we don’t have our minds wrapped around the unit circle for RH, then we will have a huge problem.

So, let’s start,

+|+|+
+|+|-
+|-|+
+|-|-
-|+|+
-|-|+
-|-|-

then you either have a (00, 01, 10, 11) for each, or a rule for each one that requires it.

See, my mind boggles!

That is combinatorial math (discrete math). And at the least 28 choices of explanations that your asking for us to solve.

And that is discounting the “non physical” aspect of your question!

So, give me some time (I just finished one of two papers this last week. So some new thinking is needed. I am searching for a endorser on the arXiv for my first paper).

It could be organizational or I will get lost in Calubi-Yau space again (read, As She Crawled Across the Table )!!

XXXOOOXXX

PS - A_0 posted in 2014 which means he might have read Stephanson’s Anathema and “borrowed” a few ideas. I don’t think so, but it is possible.



ETA: 84 “dimensions” (variables, in math) to deal with 11-D!