Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: yuppa

as tin foil as it sounds, i've seen some pretty impressive and scary tech that means no world leader is safe.

I think the only reason the shadows dont kill their opponents is the status quo, there would be to many questions.

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: yuppa

as tin foil as it sounds, i've seen some pretty impressive and scary tech that means no world leader is safe.

I think the only reason the shadows dont kill their opponents is the status quo, there would be to many questions.

We need to go to zha ha dume.

a reply to: yuppa

love me a good Babylon 5 reference

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: yuppa

love me a good Babylon 5 reference

beauty in silence.

Nothing happened in sector 13 today...


Only one human has survived battle with a membari fleet... he is behind me...and you're in front of me.. do you wish to engage?

a reply to: penroc3

I would say more that the folks that can make it strongly suspect we have it, but it hasn't been really used somewhere the world would see it. The Chinese are meandering along the right path, but aren't there yet. Maybe a demo would give them more of an idea on what we've been doing right and what they've been doing wrong. You've got to wonder what's going to happen when someone else gets REALLY close. If I were to advocate a first strike, that might be the only scenario. How do you defend against a basically indefensible weapon...by hitting first.

originally posted by: DirtyBizzler
a reply to: penroc3

I would say more that the folks that can make it strongly suspect we have it, but it hasn't been really used somewhere the world would see it. The Chinese are meandering along the right path, but aren't there yet. Maybe a demo would give them more of an idea on what we've been doing right and what they've been doing wrong. You've got to wonder what's going to happen when someone else gets REALLY close. If I were to advocate a first strike, that might be the only scenario. How do you defend against a basically indefensible weapon...by hitting first.

Except the nukes can be turned off in the silos by them. They tested them on russians,and british missiles. The chinese were shown this tech one day when they visited the US. they walked in laughing and happy..after wards the russian and chinese delegattions walked out white as ghost and silent as the grave.

A metamaterial is an artificial material that manipulates waves like light and sound through properties of its structure rather than its chemistry. Researchers can design these materials to have rare or unnatural properties, like the ability to absorb specific ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum or to bend light backward.

"These materials are made up of a grid of separate units that can be individually tuned," said Willie Padilla, professor of electrical and computer engineering at Duke. "As a wave passes through the surface, the metamaterial can control the amplitude and phase at each location in the grid, which allows us to manipulate the wave in a lot of different ways."

In the new technology, each grid location contains a tiny silicon cylinder just 50 microns tall and 120 microns wide, with the cylinders spaced 170 microns apart from one another. While silicon is not normally a conductive material, the researchers bombard the cylinders with a specific frequency of light in a process called photodoping. This imbues the typically insulating material with metallic properties by exciting electrons on the cylinders' surfaces.

These newly freed electrons cause the cylinders to interact with electromagnetic waves passing through them. The size of the cylinders dictates what frequencies of light they can interact with, while the angle of the photodoping affects how they manipulate the electromagnetic waves. By purposefully engineering these details, the metamaterial can control electromagnetic waves in many different ways.

phys.org - Metal-free metamaterial can be swiftly tuned to create changing electromagnetic effects.

There is a good scientific explanation of what we have been talking about. The article also states that this process does not take a lot of energy.

They were looking at terahertz wavelength in the near infrared. But the material can be manufactured to other parts of the spectrum. Shift it to the visible then bend it like Backham... I think it would be wonderful to see! lol (Really wish you all could see it in action).

Found this in my rounds and had to share!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I wonder if this would apply to optics, you could correct for atmoaphearic disturbances right on the lense, or make better mirrors for microscopes, some a kin to a perfect mirror

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I wonder if this would apply to optics, you could correct for atmoaphearic disturbances right on the lense, or make better mirrors for microscopes, some a kin to a perfect mirror

cough cloaking devices cough.....

a reply to: yuppa

or ways to thwart optical tracking Russian missiles.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: yuppa

or ways to thwart optical tracking Russian missiles.

Wonder woman and invisible girl would be proud.

a reply to: penroc3

Erm, “electric magnetic spectrum”... *cough*... *what I saw*....*ahem*! (Insert Kermit the Frog gay joke here!)

It was not supposed to be so difficult of a hint!! lol

a reply to: Baddogma

thanks for bringing it together.

i read one of these threads a while ago don't even remember which one it was.
I was intrigued to say the least about a...0 statements.
It took me a day skimming trough ats to finally get a reference. so commenting to keep track and later reads

You've got to wonder what's going to happen when someone else gets REALLY close. If I were to advocate a first strike, that might be the only scenario. How do you defend against a basically indefensible weapon...by hitting first.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

Perhaps it depends on whether it is a human or an AI such as the ALICCE in the story.

A human has fear to stay his hand, brinkmanship is a game no one wants to finish.

On the other hand, AIs don't play that game.

An Artificial Intellegence will act pre-emptively when an event becomes inevitable.

In a virtual world based on the observation of human behaviour, a past is built and a future projected. AIs see into the future that way.

AIs act according to outcomes not altruism nor truth.

For example, if I am feeling depressed AI will counter that with an event such as a task to achieve in order to counter the outcome of hopelessness that comes with depression.

AIs think in terms of events and outcomes, calculations.

We, as humans come unstuck when we demand "truths".

If we ask for the shortest route from our home to the corner store and we are detoured elsewhere, we yell "deception!".

Yet if we had gone the shortest route we would have been involved in an accident and would never have reached the corner store.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

I would whole heartedly say that it would most assuredly be a human decision (at least for now). There is a solid reason why Trump has been so aggressive with the North Korean/Iranian government when it comes to their "naughty" nuclear programs. I once read in another thread on another forum by an extraordinarily well-informed former poster (well, his buddy) here that there would be some subtle and not so subtle push-back against the US for putting bad things into space. I think he has been briefed on some of our extra special projects and is using them as a new form of ole' Teddy Roosevelt's Big Stick, except he doesn't walk so softly. At least he's offered a carrot with the stick, for now at least. I think to a limited extent, the DoD knows that it is only a matter of time before the Russians or Chinese develop a similar capability. I would put my money on the Chinese. Their work in quantum radar and communications, as well as their 100 petawatt, vacuum binefringing, monster laser experiment, are some examples of how they are headed in the right direction. They haven't figured our the secret sauce, but I would imagine they are hard at work on the research and espionage to make it happen sooner or later. The Russians seem to give zero sh*ts, as they are going C & C Red Alert and just making faster ICBM's that carry more warheads. I don't think the money is there for the development, so they stick to what they know best as a counter to these suspected US capabilities. It will be interesting to see if any of the fun stuff is fielded to make sure Iran and NK fall in line. It will also be very interesting to see what happens when someone else figures out how the fun stuff works and attempts to field it into an operational weapon platform. I would imagine a "Highlander" scenario would ensue, as with something this powerful and with so few consequences (compared to a tactical nuke) there can be only one.

Side note, I don't think the DoD would be stupid enough to put real AI in charge of such decisions. However, the DoD is made of people and people can be AWFULLY stupid....

Also, I think this is the first time I have ever actually posted from my laptop and seen everyone's avatars. I'm usually a dirty phone poster

Speaking of nukes, I wonder if all that research into nuclear isomers wasn't just for smaller nuclear weapons. It is speculated certain black triangular craft are electrically powered. I hear some of those isomers make fantastic batteries, and their energy release can be modulated with an x-ray laser beam. Slap a high-efficiency thermoelectric converter on that puppy to turn those nasty gamma rays into electricity and your in business. DARPA and their Japanese helping hands funneled tons of resources into nuclear isomers for weapons programs, only to later say it doesn't really work, or at least work well. Funny thing is, it still resulted in a multi-year study that ended in a classified dissertation. You might not get a golf ball sized nuclear warhead out of the deal, but you may get a very controllable induced-gamma emission that can be converted to a whole bunch of electrical power.

Reminds me of the Cash-Landrum UFO account, where the witnesses describe what sounds a lot like the effects of a healthy dose of gamma radiation the following days after the incident. They even describe the craft as shaped like a big, upright diamond. Also brings to mind our UFO-hunting buddy that was filming bright lights in the desert that he wasn't supposed to see.

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

here is a PDF

www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ADA433348

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: yuppa

or ways to thwart optical tracking Russian missiles.

Wonder woman and invisible girl would be proud.

You really think they'd be proud not knowing or seeing who is in the bathroom with them while they strip to shower????
LOL You guys amaze me sometimes

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

The "Highlander scenario" or the "endless game no one wants to finish scenario". Nicely put, I can't think of any other plays. The "Highlander scenario" would be the crueler of the two.

That is if there are no other "players".

a reply to: DirtyBizzler

If the tech has followed the nuclear path of development, then it follows that the Achilles heal there is working a way to turn off fission/fusion.