Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: sputniksteve

It's difficult in that there is a nuts and bolts technology and a very "organic" technology. And then there is AI (Artificial Intellegence) and AS (Artificial Sentience).

The ALICCE and the technology behind it; who built it and why? The dream technology and what is behind that?

It all bleeds into the occult, one might say. Occult meaning "hidden".

Its not that I want to continue elsewhere, it's an interactive process of learning of things I miss, connections in networking. But I don't want to monopolise nor hijack things either.

a reply to: sputniksteve

Yeah and worthy of a thread in itself.

Has someone written a '___' algorithm to create a '___' emulator? Dark mind control stuff in a way if such a thing is being tested.

That might be in violation of ATS T&C in regards to drug use. Look in the Board forum or contact a moderator.

But I think a lot of people might be interested.

Wow the ATS AI just cencored the dirty word I used and inserted blanks.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen


well the last paragraph WAS something i heard on rush limbaugh. asking a scientist where the universe is. my view is we are the atoms that make it up,and as such cant really see where it is.

a reply to: yuppa

Ahh, that I can understrand.

So we the particles (or focused oin them) and the Universe is what plays out between the particles? The forces that hold particles in place and even form them?

Too mind bending for me : )

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: libertytoall
there's already a breakway civilization it's called the elite. They are going to go to mars while the earth burns.

No there are already inhabitants on mars under ground.

That's been conspiracy for a long time. Tunnels on mars, aliens living under the surface, etc.. I've never seen convincing evidence of this.

a reply to: libertytoall

I think if we do have a robust secret space program that they are most assuredly on Mars in some numbers. You're probably not gonna see an article or news story on it anytime soon. The moon and various other places are probably also colonized.

a reply to: carewemust

This post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic we're discussing here, as far as I can tell.

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
a reply to: libertytoall

I think if we do have a robust secret space program that they are most assuredly on Mars in some numbers. You're probably not gonna see an article or news story on it anytime soon. The moon and various other places are probably also colonized.

And all of the private educators running the worlds most powerful telescopes are all in on the big secret?

a reply to: libertytoall

Why would they need to be? If you don't want to be spotted by a scope, you just avoid being seen. If you're not in a location where you can be spotted, you're not going to get spotted. Even moving through 'tracked airspace' there are numerous ways to avoid being spotted or confuse sensors. There's an awful lot of sky out there, I think the average astronomer or observatory with a nice scope is likely to miss secret space program activity. They wouldn't even be looking for that kind of stuff anyway, so it's not like the secret space guys really have to work that hard at it, I'd guess.

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
a reply to: libertytoall

Why would they need to be? If you don't want to be spotted by a scope, you just avoid being seen. If you're not in a location where you can be spotted, you're not going to get spotted. Even moving through 'tracked airspace' there are numerous ways to avoid being spotted or confuse sensors. There's an awful lot of sky out there, I think the average astronomer or observatory with a nice scope is likely to miss secret space program activity. They wouldn't even be looking for that kind of stuff anyway, so it's not like the secret space guys really have to work that hard at it, I'd guess.

I'm amazed this got even 1 star.. ''If you don't want to be spoteed by a scope, you just avoid being seen.'' Really? That's like saying if you don't want to be broke you just avoid being broke.. Sorry but the world is very populated with sensors everywhere. You can't launch a rocket or spaceship into space without people knowing. You can't have a base on mars with all the logistics and support necessary without it being noticed.. To put things in camparison.. If a small shadow of dust moves on the moon it's noticed..

originally posted by: libertytoall

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: libertytoall
there's already a breakway civilization it's called the elite. They are going to go to mars while the earth burns.

No there are already inhabitants on mars under ground.

That's been conspiracy for a long time. Tunnels on mars, aliens living under the surface, etc.. I've never seen convincing evidence of this.

Of course not. they are isolationist and never go out on the surface. totally self contained.

a reply to: yuppa

Been snooping yuppa (grin)

Just to put the cat amoungst the pidgeons.

The "greys" think and act like they own mars and whatever goes beyond our orbit as far as humanity is concerned. "At their pleasure" one might say.

Any Breakaways and RKers are probably under "grey" rule.

But not so much earthside as they would like and luna; not theirs.

"Greys" meaning the puppets of the "Atlantean" epoch.

Just an educated hunch.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen



ahh the lunarians. so many factions it get confusing.

a reply to: yuppa

Tell me about it. Politics and diplomacy (groan). The important thing is that what we call "greys" are not all that powerful in the scheme of things - a minority who have people spooked. A paper tiger really.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

i think it is a archetype thing that scares people in regards to the grays.


they act like the tricksters of days gone by. they can seem to do as they please with mind bending illusions that can inspire terror in the hardyist of men.

i think humans as a whole have such little understanding of the 'woo' side of life it's no wonder we are so easily tricked or scared into compliance(by et or human forces)

a reply to: penroc3

Quite right there penroc.

However with the "A" material, we have (supossedly) an ancient sentient artifact that bossed a bunch of humans into tracking down other lost technology and putting it together to build something greater.

Add to this the dream technology of networking sleeping people. Then the cloning as well.

That can all be done in a building without building a nuclear prpelled spaceship. Just buy a wharehouse somewhere.

So, if they can actually do the dream stuff then it is uncomfortably close to a lot of abduction experiences.

The question for me at least is if a group is doing this and have the technology then what else are they doing and with whom.

"Tricksters" a very broad term that can apply to almost everyone corporeal or otherwise.

Hmmm, I wonder what sort of response one would get if one told an abductee it was all a trick? April fool! A bit more serious then that.

originally posted by: libertytoall

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
a reply to: libertytoall

Why would they need to be? If you don't want to be spotted by a scope, you just avoid being seen. If you're not in a location where you can be spotted, you're not going to get spotted. Even moving through 'tracked airspace' there are numerous ways to avoid being spotted or confuse sensors. There's an awful lot of sky out there, I think the average astronomer or observatory with a nice scope is likely to miss secret space program activity. They wouldn't even be looking for that kind of stuff anyway, so it's not like the secret space guys really have to work that hard at it, I'd guess.

I'm amazed this got even 1 star.. ''If you don't want to be spoteed by a scope, you just avoid being seen.'' Really? That's like saying if you don't want to be broke you just avoid being broke..

Really. Why don't you tell me all about what's on the dark side of the moon. Paint a clear picture for me of all the astronomical activity going on on the far side of the asteroid belt, real time...it's okay...I'll wait...

Sorry but the world is very populated with sensors everywhere. You can't launch a rocket or spaceship into space without people knowing. You can't have a base on mars with all the logistics and support necessary without it being noticed.. To put things in camparison.. If a small shadow of dust moves on the moon it's noticed..

Lots of sensors, sure, lots of cameras. None of that equals an airtight, impassable, undefeatable, impossible to fool detection network. Not even close, really.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

i think we would 100% be at the butt end of the joke.

Anyone/thing that uses deception and subterfuge to get compliance can not be trusted not matter how good their promises maybe.


I think most of us posting here have had experiences with strange things, some closer than others. I have experienced some very strange things a little too close for comfort. but the thing is if i was asked to participate i'm very sure i would, maybe i already did?


with the astr0 story, where i had a huge problem is they pick and choose what seems to be random people to mess with their minds and dreams. it sounds like(if true) their whole outfit has lost compassion and perspective.

when it really comes down to it no one has the right to use a human for anything without that persons permission let alone messing with someone's mind. it sounded like they didn't even consider asking and were more like "f it we'll take what we need no matter the human cost".


overall not very cool, if they could find the people they need i think most of them would be willing to help them.

all i would ask for is a ride.

originally posted by: libertytoall

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
a reply to: libertytoall

Why would they need to be? If you don't want to be spotted by a scope, you just avoid being seen. If you're not in a location where you can be spotted, you're not going to get spotted. Even moving through 'tracked airspace' there are numerous ways to avoid being spotted or confuse sensors. There's an awful lot of sky out there, I think the average astronomer or observatory with a nice scope is likely to miss secret space program activity. They wouldn't even be looking for that kind of stuff anyway, so it's not like the secret space guys really have to work that hard at it, I'd guess.

I'm amazed this got even 1 star.. ''If you don't want to be spoteed by a scope, you just avoid being seen.'' Really? That's like saying if you don't want to be broke you just avoid being broke.. Sorry but the world is very populated with sensors everywhere. You can't launch a rocket or spaceship into space without people knowing. You can't have a base on mars with all the logistics and support necessary without it being noticed.. To put things in camparison.. If a small shadow of dust moves on the moon it's noticed..

...but can you notice that small shadow if it doesn't use conventional technology?

a reply to: penroc3

I don't condone what the RKers allegedly do either. Nor cloning dream invading or any of that stuff. But how good is humanity? The foxes and deer never wanted that bulldozer through their forrest either.

People do what people do and this isn't a civilised world realky. All we can do is try to make it better.