Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: tacka

This was supposedly exotic unknown science from over 150 years ago... so (if true), imagine what wouldve been achieved since. It doesnt take a genius to estimate how tech would;ve advanced in the past 150 years.

Furthermore, IMHO understanding the origin is the key to understanding the true scope of the present situation. I have taken a look at a pdf of Charles Dellschau's work in question..... truly amazing it is. Another thing im not sure if it was mentioned in the lecture, was the use of some type of language. Theory is this was either coded writing or a cypher or maybe straight up another language for a breakaway civ... im sure there have been efforts to decode it among ufo researchers, but this is apparently the same type of symbols/language that many witnesses report seeing on the outside of craft they witnessed!

So yeah, im pretty sure that the 'origins', despite being the most crucial aspect, are the least talked about aspect of this whole 'theory', if you can even call it that anymore!

I agree it's a wonderful insight, I always ponder at the thought if true and where they would be and what they are up to, is anyone brave enough to do one for the current climate.

Am all ears

a reply to: Baddogma

I have witnessed one of these. I am not a ufo follower or some kind of believer or researcher. I simply saw one years ago along with many other people with me before it silently vanished into thin air. It should be obvious that things out there exist that are far beyond us, but for some reason i feel like all of these things are just humans who have concealed a lot of information from us.

a reply to: trader12

I had a thought this morning...

Have you noticed how so many books, movies and TV shows have a "hidden shadow world" parallel to ours? Like how in Harry Potter the magic world exists right under everyone's nose? Or with Will Smith's "MIB" movies? It's right there, just out of sight?

Now ... IMO there has to be some element of truth to an entire other culture/world/civilization existing in secret right here, right now -- at least in some form or fashion for this meme and archetype to be so popular.

It's as if we (as a species and society) know this "thing" exists on a collective unconscious level, and it makes for popular storytelling.

I keep knocking on the door, trying pass codes to get in .. but they never take me

a reply to: MystikMushroom

yes this is present everywhere. it's how a genius designer hides the truth- they advertise it to the masses as fiction to ensure nobody catches onto how things actually work.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
...a "hidden shadow world" parallel to ours?

I'm not sure of your reasoning, and I'm just an anonymous person passing by, but I can tell you 100% you're on the right track.

a reply to: TransientMountain

There are enough tidbits of evidence that haven't been completely "cleaned", yet not enough to fully prove anything. I think the most telling evidence is that there is such an prevalence of this theme in the collective unconsciousness.

It is as if we all somehow are aware of this other hidden world just outside of our perception -- enough to the point that when we read about it or see it in movies/tv it appeals to us. We know its true, but can't grasp at it. We enjoy having authors, screen writers and directors drag us along and show us a possible representation of it.

The entire hidden world of Stargate: SG1 is a good example. There's some kind of resonance people have with knowing there is MUCH more going on than we're being told. It's out there, we can't see it -- but we all feel it.

A world of magical users not unlike Harry Potter? Perhaps. I did stumble upon a group of folks claiming they had telekinetic powers online many years ago. They've since vanished.

I've had ... 'interactions' ... on enough levels to know that things exist out there so outrageous they're hardly worth hiding. These things are so fantastic that people would immediately blow them off as fake, Hollywood trickery.

If you look at things from a very basic, doable perspective...the Church of Scientology infiltrated the US government at an unprecedented level with "Operation Snow White" -- that was just some Scientologists! What do you think a true breakaway civilization of Earths best and brightest are doing?

originally posted by: TransientMountain

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
...a "hidden shadow world" parallel to ours?

I'm not sure of your reasoning, and I'm just an anonymous person passing by, but I can tell you 100% you're on the right track.

You mean like the real reason no one can catch a bigfoot because they are actually very intelligent and can phase into and out of our plane at will with their technology?

Like Skinwalker ranch is a secret weapons development program between humans and aliens?

O r that the SMoking men and their Panel of 12 majestic members actually exist and run the entire world right down to who wins the super bowl?

O r my personal favorite. The Black doritos and the forever men who work for the organization known as Relearnt Knowledge and their plans to leave the planet new years 2036.

Yes SO many interesting sights to see...so much to drive one mad... ha ha..haahaahaaa...Ahahahahahha!!1 AAaaahahahahaha!!!

a reply to: MystikMushroom

The difficulty would be knowing whether it's knowledge being leaked into/from a collective unconsciousness, or if it's just a fear of there being nothing. Perhaps all people desire something more, something more than what we're now told is reality. Even if we believe there're no Gods and there's no meaning to life; the hidden/shadows give us some hope, a reason to dream and imagine.

We all seem to have an idea what we think reality is or could be, and what we think is possible. Someone makes a claim that beings made of light exist, and some of us think that's crazy, while others think it's possible or indeed believe it.
The problems arise when there's something that's so amazing, so different, that nobody expects it at all. Some people can handle it, some don't seem able to, and others will attempt to fit it into something they already believe in.
So let's say there're some invisible to us intelligent beings here on Earth, and some scientists release evidence and proof; how do you think people will react?
It might be that the collective unconscious, is not showing what lurks in the shadows, but instead trying to hide us from finding out.

This alleged breakaway civilization, that uses clones put into a state of sensory deprivation. It sounds very wrong, no?
It would in effect be no different to the psychopath who locks his/her own children in a darkened basement.
So in this story, I would like to believe that part of it is not true; however if I do so, how do I know what parts are true? I have a feeling? Maybe a feeling that's shared by others?
If we limit what we take from a collective unconscious, to only ideas every single person believes deep down in, does that make it anymore true, anymore possible?

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Along the lines of the "Stargate" stories, there are the fantasy tales about people accidentally getting to 'other' worlds, like "Narnia" and "Oz" -

- these sorts of stories have always resonated deeply with me, as a kid I halfway believed that I might one day actually stumble through a 'portal' of some sort and end up somewhere 'magical'...

originally posted by: lostgirl
a reply to: MystikMushroom

Along the lines of the "Stargate" stories, there are the fantasy tales about people accidentally getting to 'other' worlds, like "Narnia" and "Oz" -

- these sorts of stories have always resonated deeply with me, as a kid I halfway believed that I might one day actually stumble through a 'portal' of some sort and end up somewhere 'magical'...

Now youre thinking with PORTALS.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: TheBadCabbie

Well, thanks for the defense, even if slightly misplaced, it was appreciated!

Glad to know I'm not the only nut in the tree.

You're welcome, by the way. I don't think it's nutty at all. It's common sense to me to assume that the US has a secret space program and has had one for a long time. Where's the best place to be when the planet gets destroyed?

originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: Baddogma

eta: If true (or even if not) I wonder who was talking to Ridley Scott.. i.e. Prometheus?

Funny thing is, Hollywood (MSM) has never portrayed a SSP in the same context as A0's story has.
Sure we've got movies like Elysium, Prometheus, Interstellar, Martian etc. but the space programs are never secret, earthlings are fully aware of what is happening in these fairytales.

But correct me if im wrong, to my knowledge, there has never been a MSM movie where a space program has been kept secret form the world in which it is developed.

This got me thinking, if someone took a0's story as is, and made it into film.... it would be a totally original, never before seen story. Something that in Hollywood, is a unicorn.

So, is it not a bit strange that Hollywood has somehow come up with every conceivable story/scenario (you name it, and theres probably a movie about it), yet they somehow never conceived/thought up this a0 scenario and all it entails.

I think it's off limits, or has been firmly but quietly discouraged. Most of the film industry is owned by a small number of people, is it not? The group of people that says "okay we're going to produce your multimillion dollar sci-fi film" is actually not a very large group.

a reply to: TheBadCabbie

Actually since AO posted that here it belongs to THE ABOVE NETWORK according to the TnC. SO no there will never be a movie on it.

originally posted by: Nikola014
What a wonderful thread. Only got to page 70 though, but it's fascinating.

If you stopped at p.70 you're missing out, man. It gets pretty interesting after 70.

originally posted by: JackHill

No human organization had the technology to fly silent and stealthy, stop in mid air, stop a car at distance, immobilize the victims at distance, implant flase memories making them believe it was 'little gre aliens' and usually erasing most part of the recalling on the events. I found that very hard to believe, IMO.

How do you know that to be true? You can't prove that. Officially, sure. Unofficially though...our govt. keeps a lot of secrets. I'm sure we're not the only nation to do so.

No sir, pure BS.

Again, how would you really know one way or the other?

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: TheBadCabbie

Actually since AO posted that here it belongs to THE ABOVE NETWORK according to the TnC. SO no there will never be a movie on it.

This specific story perhaps, but they can't own the overall concept. You must admit, this sort of folklore rarely if ever sees the light of day. Whenever it does, it almost always seems to be framed in an absurd light. The Men In Black series and Galaxy Quest are really the only two film franchises to touch it that I know of.

a reply to: TheBadCabbie

Hi, welcome, and I wanted to reiterate that this narrative might (MIGHT) be only part of a much larger story about this...er Earth situation.

I agree with Jack (and KPB, etc.) that there are (almost) certainly other factors (other intelligence I mean) at work within the broad area of "UFOs."

This, I think, might just be the human part of the mosaic.

I think even IF this narrative is legitimate, then there are other factors that would still blow the average joe's mind concerning "alien" intelligence... though I'm still of the opinion that it isn't really "alien" like we think it... apples and oranges and all very, deeply weird in relation to day-to-day human stuff.

But as ever, my own take evolves day-to-day.

a reply to: Baddogma

Dr. Salla does a good job of unearthing the breakaway civilizations, there are 5-7 that have left the planet in the last couple million years, and a few that dwell beneath it as well.



Some truth about breakaway civilizations

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: Baddogma

Dr. Salla does a good job of unearthing the breakaway civilizations, there are 5-7 that have left the planet in the last couple million years, and a few that dwell beneath it as well.



Some truth about breakaway civilizations

Current one is made up of former members of various intelligencias and scientific minds. We are the Fifth column o fhumanity to exist in this solar system. MARS was a previous inhabited planet but someone screwed i t up.

a reply to: yuppa

Yes, apparently the new Star Wars movie is actually based on our Solar System history. The asteroid belt used to be the planet Maldek. Some idiots there developed a massive weapon, but were destroyed before they could use it. This explosion decimated Mars, not hard to understand when you see the condition of the face on Mars and the pyramids near it.

Here is the Law of One take on what happened to the souls on Mars:

Law of One - Mars