Did Obama or Shadow Government Try To Nuke Our Own Country Last Year?

a reply to: MKMoniker

It was a video, and no I haven't. It didn't say they were U-Haul, but U-Haul TYPE trucks, meaning small straight trucks, not big trucks.

If they were military trucks how in hell would they "hide" with civilian trucks. And there wouldn't be any way for them to. Military trucks look nothing like civilian trucks. The supposed idea was to HIDE that there were weapons moving across the country. A giant convoy of military trucks moving from Texas to South Carolina doesn't do that. Military convoys moving outside the state they originate in, unless it's a short distance across the line, tend to move on trains, not in convoys moving across the country. It's cheaper, and saves on fuel.

a reply to: Zaphod58

In researching U-Haul's "Terms and Conditions," it appears they have around 125 different registered trademark names:

www.uhaul.com...
U-HAUL TERMS AND CONDITIONS
Scroll to bottom for list of different registered names.

Some of these are very strange sounding, (like STEALTH & Design? XTRAILER? FRONT LINE?) So U-Haul may have government contracts to use certain names for certain government/military transportation.

So maybe it was a U-Haul truck taking the nukes out of Dyess AFB. I didn't think the military contracted to use civilian trucking, but maybe for Black Ops or Spec Ops projects they do.

So I apologize, you may be right about the U-Haul. Although, as I tell my husband all the time, if you'd been more clear or more forthcoming with key details, I'd have understood better the first time.

a reply to: MKMoniker

U-Haul TYPE doesn't necessarily mean U-Haul.

U-Haul type

A U-Haul type truck is simply a straight truck, or a small truck. The military contracts them, or a semi-truck all the time to move freight. Sensitive equipment, and nuclear weapons are moved on military trucks, but military freight is moved all the time on regular civilian trucks. There are civilian companies out there that specialize in moving military cargo.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks for the explanation about the boxy, U-Haul "type" trucks, Zeph.

On the other hand - when considering military cargo/vehicles on our civilian streets - why doesn't Black Ops use some of the "militarized vehicles" now with city police departments? The publicity is that these are just "military surplus" combat-vehicles, some even shipped back from the MidEast. What ISN'T publicized, is that Homeland Security took possession of nearly 3,000 brand new MaxxPro "domestic combat" vehicles in 2012:

modernsurvivalblog.com...
(Sept. 2012) LATEST HOMELAND SECURITY ARMORED VEHICLE

I don't like these in domestic police departments anymore than anyone else. BUT they seem a more logical choice to move Spec Ops/Black Ops weaponry and nukes around the country than a U-Haul.

a reply to: MKMoniker

Because any time those vehicles move any kind of distance, they are shipped by train. It costs a lot less to ship them that way than it does to drive them. That means that they have to give the weights, and in some cases that means the individual vehicles are weighed to verify weight. If they weigh one, and it weighs, let's say 20 tons, and they weigh another, and it weighs 26 tons, that's a huge clue that something is wrong.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks for your response, Zeph. I could see where those heavily armored vehicles driving on regular streets or highways could cause a stir. And, as you said, when their weight at different weigh stations fluctuates, red flags go up.

Maybe you know the answer to this: Do nuke weapons in transport leak any detectable radiation? I know Mass. State Troopers use handheld radiation detectors, since they patrol routes used by trucks hauling away nuclear waste to be buried. And they occasionally stop folks on their way home from having x-ray tests. But I don't know about nuke bombs being transported.

Here's an interesting article out today from the Washington Post, about a supposedly benign and tiny group of civilians buried in the Pentagon, who were deep into Black Op operations - or so they thought:

www.washingtonpost.com... 02d_story.html?tid=pm_pop
PROBE OF SILENCERS LEADS TO WEB OF PENTAGON SECRETS
"The mysterious workings of a Pentagon office that oversees clandestine operations are unraveling in federal court, where a criminal investigation has exposed a secret weapons program entwined with allegations of a sweetheart contract, fake badges and trails of destroyed evidence.

"Much of the documentation in the investigation has been filed under seal on national security grounds. (What a surprise!) According to the records that have been made public, the crux of the case is whether the silencers were properly purchased for an authorized secret mission or were assembled for a rogue operation.

"A former senior Navy official familiar with the investigation described directorate officials as “wanna-be spook-cops.” Speaking on the condition of anonymity because the case is still unfolding, he added, “I know it sounds goofy, but it was like they were building their own mini law enforcement and intelligence agency.”

Whether this Pentagon department was in on the "3 stolen nukes" mission or not, they may have shared clandestine resources, or at least known what was coming down last Fall 2013.

Here is more circumstantial evidence around the "3 stolen nukes" last Fall, that brave officers risked their careers to detonate harmlessly under the Atlantic. Specifically more changes/appointments in September 2013:

www.nmic.gov...
JAMES CLAPPER PRESIDES OVER "CHANGE OF DIRECTOR" CEREMONY ON SEPT. 30, 2013
"Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, presided over the Change of Director ceremony for the National Maritime Intelligence - Integration Office (NMIO) on September 30, 2013. Rear Admiral Elizabeth L. Train, USN, relieved Rear Admiral Samuel J. Cox, USN, as NMIO’s Director and as Commander, Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI).

"Rear Admiral Train, who previously served as Director for Intelligence (J2), U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS), told the audience attending the ceremony “We are in a critical period of challenge and opportunity. Decisions made today will have long-term security implications."

www.navy.mil...
BIO OF OF REAR ADMIRAL ELIZABETH L. TRAIN
She is still in that position, according to this.

www.navy.mil...
BIO OF REAR ADMIRAL SAMUEL J. COX - RETIRED NOVEMBER 2013

(Again, I am not implicating or accusing anyone. As I have done on preceding pages, I am merely listing military officer transfers or Changes of Command in key Atlantic Coast installations prior to or during the "3 stolen nukes" episode in September/October 2013.)

Here are some U.S. Naval Intelligence and Agency Head transfers/retirements in 2014, presided over by Rear Admiral Train:

www.oni.navy.mil...
(May 9, 2014) CHANGE OF COMMAND, ONI'S NIMITZ OPERATIONAL INTELLIGENCE CENTER
From Office of Naval Intelligence Public Affairs
"Captain Nicholas Homan assumed command of the Nimitz Operational Intelligence Center in a change of command ceremony at the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) May 9.

"CAPT Homan relieved CAPT Andrea Pollard, who will join the staff of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Dominance as Foreign Liaison Officer.

"Rear Admiral Elizabeth Train, ONI’s Commander, presided over the ceremony. She cited the many accomplishments of the Nimitz Center under CAPT Pollard’s command and commended her for her leadership."

www.oni.navy.mil...
NAVY BIO ON CAPT. ANDREA POLLARD

www.oni.navy.mil...
(Aug. 28, 2014) NGA DIRECTOR LETITIA A. LONG HONORED BEFORE IMPENDING RETIREMENT
"Letitia A. “Tish” Long, Director of the National Geospatial-lntelligence Agency (NGA) was recognized for her contributions to naval intelligence over the course of her extraordinary career that began in 1978 as a project engineer in training with the David Taylor Research Center.

"She joined the staff of the Director of Naval Intelligence in 1988 and from there she rose to her current position as the first woman to lead a major national intelligence agency.

"Ms. Long’s portrait with a plaque inscribed with her career milestones was added to the Naval Intelligence Wall of Honor in the National Maritime Intelligence Center (NMIC) Gallery. It was officially unveiled before a gathering of Maritime GEOINT Office personnel and other Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) employees who served with Ms. Long over the course of her career. The honor was a surprise for the NGA Director, who came to ONI to bid farewell to MGO personnel before her impending retirement.

"RADM Elizabeth L. Train, Commander, Office of Naval Intelligence presided over the ceremony. Admiral Train related a story about when she was Director of Intelligence at U.S. Pacific Command, she worked with Ms. Long to support U.S. Navy humanitarian relief operations in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami that devastated Japan in March 2011.

a reply to: MKMoniker

Change of commands and firings prove nothing. They happen all the time. Firings, even of high ranking officers are more common than people think.

Perhaps you noticed in my preceding posts, but getting exact "assignment" dates for officers leaving certain posts (as in, how long they'd been in that particular assignment), seems to be getting harder and harder. And some of the Bios don't list even years for Transferring In/Out of key assignments, let alone the months.

Here is the page of September/October 2013 news for the "Yard News" (Baltimore News) about Homeland Security's U.S. Coast Guard. (I had previously been unable to find any Press Releases/News for those months, in either the Coast Guard or Navy's Mid-Atlantic regions.)

www.uscg.mil...
(Sept./Oct. 2013) 'YARD NEWS"
If you scroll down to the colorful continental U.S. map of where shipyard-crews were working on Coast Guard ships in September/October 2013, notice that there were NO crews those months in either South Carolina nor North Carolina.

a reply to: MKMoniker

Because there aren't any Coast Guard yards there. CG ships requiring heavy maintenance on the East Coast go to the yard in Maryland.

You're connecting a lot of dots that aren't dots.

a reply to: Zaphod58

"Because there aren't any Coast Guard yards there. CG ships requiring heavy maintenance on the East Coast go to the yard in Maryland."

Then I suggest you look at the map again in "Yard News" of where CG mobile repair crews were working in Sept./Oct. 2013. Despite the following important Coast Guard bases in both Carolinas, notice how there were MULTIPLE repair crews in all the nearby states: Georgia, Florida and Virginia. If the Coast Guard bases in the Carolinas had craft needing repairs, it looks like they were shifted to nearby states for those months.

There are several important Coast Guard Bases in North Carolina, in Elizabeth City. And another Coast Guard Base at Charleston, South Carolina, (Ground Zero if the nukes had been deployed).

militarybases.com...
MILITARY BASES IN NORTH CAROLINA

militarybases.com...
COAST GUARD "NATIONAL STRIKE FORCE"
"Aside from the oil spills, any hazardous substances that become problematic are also taken care of. The general idea is not just to protect the environment, but also the public health. However, this is not all. National Strike Force aims for the mass destruction weapons that might affect the population. Whether the country is under attack or various tests go wrong, the unit is ready to join and solve the situation. It supports all the Coast Guard units and bases, as well as the Federal Response Regions."

www.columbiasouthcarolina.com...
COAST GUARD SECTOR CHARLESTON (SOUTH CAROLINA)

"You're connecting a lot of dots that aren't dots."

Maybe. Maybe not. I know this is all circumstantial, but Team Obama controls the "lamestream media." And I am neither a hacker, nor do I have insider contacts. Still, surprise incoming transfers - or sudden Sept. 30 Change of Commands in key Atlantic area bases - speaks volumes for something very serious about to happen in the Mid-Atlantic region. And it was announced ahead of time by a U.S. Congressman, anyway.

Or perhaps you might go back to all the "UFO Sightings" I listed a few pages back, where witnesses all over the country - AND the ISS - reported the October 8, 2013 flash and then donut-ring cloud lingering over the Atlantic off the Carolinas.

So the event DID happen. And if my investigating "sudden" military transfers, and/or avoidance of that area by Homeland Security's Coast Guard mobile repair crews seems trivial, it's the only information I have access to. And I will continue investigating this.

a reply to: MKMoniker

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Did Team Obama order three nukes detonated in the U.S. last year, to "create" a disaster/catastrophe so TO could start implementing their many Executive Orders?
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Seriously....what sick mind-set must someone have to assume that your president would nuke its own people?
I can understand "dislike" for Obama...but THIS is just...beyond nuts when people even believe such BS.

originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed
Seriously....what sick mind-set must someone have to assume that your president would nuke its own people?
I can understand "dislike" for Obama...but THIS is just...beyond nuts when people even believe such BS.

It is a Sorcha Faal story, which the op still believes....
rationalwiki.org...

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

I know one of the joys of ATS is the ability to just "pop in" to a 7-page thread and jot off a quick "Are you nuts?" post to the OP. But this is a serious issue - and it DID happen. And it did NOT originate with that legendary fall-guy at the CIA with the pen-name of Socha Faal!

If you'd read this entire thread, you'd have seen that the story has been independently verified on numerous fronts, in both the civilian and military sectors. Some very courageous top military officers derailed the plot - and got fired for trivialities.

And Team Obama has been preparing for just such disasters for years. Or didn't you read about all the totalitarian laws and EOs passed in his first term, setting up multi-layered Federal Responses to Catastrophes "still to be named"?

(And don't forget: Obama had a mental break-down and was on anti-anxiety drugs in 2010, when Congress tried to remove him as "mentally unfit." By 2011, he suddenly appeared with head scars, indicating brain surgery. By Election Day 2012, his Chief Adviser had been overheard saying "After this, there won't be anymore elections. And those who've opposed us will pay!")

www.wnd.com...
(July 2014) FORENSIC PROFILER: OBAMA SLIPPING MENTALLY
“Not madness such as total loss of control mentally, but more and more drastic behavior seen in disturbed traumatized leaders,” said Andrew G. Hodges, M.D., who wrote “The Obama Confession: Secret Fear, Secret Fury.”

"Hodges, an expert who previously suggested Obama was revealing alarming ideas about martial law and described how the president wants “total gun control,” provided to WND an analysis of some of Obama’s recent comments, specifically those from speeches in Minneapolis in late June."

(This is a President under enormous pressure to "make martial law happen - and now!" And the worst pressure is possibly coming from within the White House or his own "I went to the wall for you!" Advisers. So is he mentally capable of nuking Charleston - or any other city - to create a "martial law scenario"? If you read this whole thread ... Oh Yeah!)

originally posted by: MKMoniker
But this is a serious issue - and it DID happen.

No it did not happen, it is a silly story made up by Sorcha Faal, and you fell for it hook,line, sinker rod and the whole damn boat!

And it did NOT originate with that legendary fall-guy at the CIA with the pen-name of Socha Faal

Yes it did.

If you'd read this entire thread, you'd have seen that the story has been independently verified on numerous fronts, in both the civilian and military sectors.

W@rong again, it is just a silly unverified made up story, not based on anything factual, just like all Sorcha Faal's silly stories.

didn't you read about all the totalitarian laws and EOs passed in his first term,

Such as what exactly?

(And don't forget: Obama had a mental break-down and was on anti-anxiety drugs in 2010, when Congress tried to remove him as "mentally unfit."

Another silly hoax story that you fell for....
www.snopes.com...

However, the article was just a bit of satire from the National Report, a web site that publishes outrageous fictional stories such as "IRS Plans to Target Leprechauns Next," "Boy Scouts Announce Boobs Merit Badge," and "New CDC Study Indicates Pets of Gay Couples Worse at Sports, Better at Fashion Than Pets of Straight Couples." Read more at www.snopes.com...

There is a reason this thread is in the hoax bin.... it is just a hoax!

a reply to: MKMoniker

Florida, and Georgia have shipyards the mobile teams can use for minor repairs.

Yes there are important CG bases in SC, but look at them. They're primarily air stations, and training bases, as well as depots.

You're claiming that the Coast Guard knew it was coming, and moved everything, but the Air Force, Army, Marines, and Navy were left in the dark so they could destroy all their equipment and kill their personnel.

There is no way that a nuclear weapon was detonated under water and caused a flash and ring cloud like you claim. And if it was on the surface no way witnesses "all over the country" saw it. The flash is only visible a few miles at best.

a reply to: hellobruce

Well, HelloRonRon! Knew you'd show up sooner or later, hysterically tripping over your personality disorders to attack me after my every post in every thread.

"Another silly hoax story (about Obama's mental breakdown in 2010) that you fell for...."

Wrong again, RonRon!

larouchepac.com...
(Nov. 2010) NEW WAYNE MADSEN REPORT HIGHLIGHTS OBAMA'S MENTAL BREAKDOWN
"White House leaks about the ineffectiveness of Obama's presidency are expanding beyond the revelations attributed to a former high-level Obama administration insider and which have been reported by a blogger named "Ulsterman." Some White House staffers have described a "reign of terror" in the White House over continued leaks and a troika of leadership that is making decisions without any input from the president. The troika reportedly consists of First Lady Michelle Obama, presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett, and the president's mother-in-law, Marian Robinson, who resides in the White House.

"Not to be deterred, some White House staffers have sought out journalists and have arranged to meet them at nearby Starbucks cafes to discreetly convey to them inside information about the current disarray within the Obama administration. Some staffers have personally born the brunt of Obama's temper and witnessed his extreme narcissistic behavior. WMR has also learned from White House sources that Obama is taking prescription anxiety medication.

"Vice President Biden, under intense pressure from some Democratic Party officials and Cabinet members to invoke Article 25, Section 4 of the Constitution, and have Obama temporarily or permanently removed as president because of his mental incapacity to fulfill his constitutional oath as president, is reluctant to take such drastic action. Biden feels that the country would "become unglued" after such action and he doesn't want to be the one who would be responsible for "picking up the pieces," according to a source who works within Biden's office."

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"No (the 3 stolen nukes story) did not happen, it is a silly story made up by Sorcha Faal, and you fell for it hook,line, sinker rod and the whole damn boat! "

Wrong again, RonRon! Any sensible person reading all my posts and research in this thread knows it was a real event - and it almost happened. Here is a CBS Report - and the Big Networks ALWAYS thoroughly vet their stories before being put on the air. The story is still available - not pulled if it had been fake:

charlotte.cbslocal.com...
(Sept. 3, 2013) SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: NUKES HEADED TO CHARLESTON HARBOR
This was a desperate attempt to force the U.S. into a war with Syria. But the nukes DID ship out of Dyess AFB in Texas. Read the rest of this thread where I investigated where they might have ended up, before brave American officers hijacked this murderous plot and detonated them in the Atlantic on Oct. 8, 2013.

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And Team Obama has been "at war" with our fine military officers for a long time, firing them right and left for the most trivial of offenses. Supposedly he fears a "military coup". Most likely, his fascist tendencies keep getting unraveled by sensible people, and BO blames the military.

john-gaultier.blogspot.com...
(July 2013) OBAMA FIRES HUNDREDS OF MILITARY OFFICERS BECAUSE HE FEARS A COUP
Here's a list of U.S. military officers he'd fired up to July 2013. (The nukes exploded in the Atlantic on Oct. 2013 - three months later.)

Does THIS sound like a country being led by sane-and-sensible leadership? Heck NO! Our fine, well trained militaries train "leaders" who will go to the mat for the sake of this country - and they DID!

prepperpodcast.com...
(Oct. 13, 2013) OBAMA OUSTS TOP OFFICERS AFTER NUKE EXPLODED IN OCEAN INSTEAD OF CHARLESTON

a reply to: MKMoniker

Bush fired as many. Was he at war with the military too?

a reply to: Zaphod58

"Bush fired as many. Was he at war with the military too?"

Exact numbers of how many military officers Bush Jr. fired are impossible to find. Just as I can't pull up the controversial article "Bush and the Generals" from even its reprint in RealClearPolitics. (But Obama has fired several hundred top officers - including Commanders/Generals AND the first 4-star General fired since Eisenhower's presidency.)

But Bush's incompetence pushing us into 2 MidEast wars at the behest of the Global Elitists, after the staged Twin Towers Bombing, let the "best-and-brightest" bleed out of our militaries too:

www.washingtonmonthly.com...
(2007) THE ARMY'S OTHER PROBLEM: THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST ARE LEAVING
"The consequences of shedding thousands of bright, battle-tested young officers are likely to be grim. In the short term, experts worry that military units in Iraq and Afghanistan—which have performed impressively despite staggeringly bad senior leadership—will degrade in effectiveness.

"Many in the military are mindful of what happened when the Army experienced a similar flight of top young talent near the end of the Vietnam War. Then, critical midlevel leadership positions were filled by soldiers with less experience and maturity.

"Poorly prepared leaders drove relations between the officer corps and the enlisted men who served under them to historic lows. The Army documented incidents of "fragging," when outraged enlisted men turned their weapons on officers who they felt were gratuitously or ineptly leading troops into danger."

(NOTE: Narcissistic Obama, who had absolutely NO military experience - not even a false paper-trail like Bush in the National Guard during VietNam, as he partied hardy in reality - immediately felt threatened and intimidated by military officers who wouldn't be his "Yes" men.)

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Today the military purge continues, and the U.S. militaries are now 40% Army under Sec. of Defense Hagel and Joint Chiefs Head General Dempsey. And our militaries are more entangled in Political Stunts than ever before. I mean, read the following article and try and explain to me what's really going on?

truth11.com... uses-middle-east-policy/
(10/14/2014) LAWMAKERS WANT MILITARY OFFICERS TO REBEL AGAINST OBAMA AND RESIGN "IN A BLAZE OF GLORY" IN OPPOSITION TO TEAM OBAMA'S MIDDLE EAST POLICY
If you scroll down to the nine photos of military men holding "I will NOT fight for Al Qaeda in Syria" signs, not all of them are officers, and I saw few wedding rings. (Young and single 20-something enlisted are not solidified into careers yet, and aren't risking what career officers are by opposing the current administration.)

So are these unnamed "lawmakers" just extending their disgust with Team Obama by enlisting the aid of the disgruntled military enlisted and officers? Or are these unidentified "lawmakers" just helping purge the military from a different angle?

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And what's with this article today in the Boston paper? Is the U.S. Navy now targeting politicians?

www.boston.com... aine-test/FWh1pqlNUd0uKY7qo4JHSM/story .html

JOE BIDEN'S SON DISCHARGED FROM THE NAVY AFTER POSITIVE COCAINE TEST
"Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter was discharged as an ensign in the Navy Reserve earlier this year after he tested positive for coc aine, according to The Wall Street Journal. The Journal cites sources who told the paper that the 44-year-old former lobbyist lost the part-time position earlier this year."

As Jimmy Carter found out with brother Billy, relatives' antics can be embarrassing - but are seldom cause for serious criticism of the public politician, for actions the relative committed as a "responsible adult." So who is putting out this story and why?