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Originally posted by Byrd
You haven't explained why there are NO instances of Jewish script anywhere in the whole site.
And why every ancient record (including the engraving on the stone in the top chamber of the largest pyramid) are in Egyptian hieroglyphics and why the surrounding temples and everything else have ONLY Egyptian hieroglyphic and demotic writings.
Oh yes... and why the name of Kufu (the pharoah Cheops) is written in the top chamber. That doesn't translate as "Jehovah."
Originally posted by Shai
The idea that Giza is Jerusalem is beyond ludicrous..and yes, Ive seen the links and they are not even pseudo-science, they are revisionist pop-mythology..and pretty poor at that.
Originally posted by CyrusTheShepherd
I cannot pose myself an expert on Egyptian hieroglyphics, or Hebrew for that matter. All I can point out is what scripture says, in the fact that Israel mimmicked Egypt in many ways, including customs, dress, idol worship.
THe Great Pyramid, on the other hand, I believe was not even built by Jews. But possibly by giants.
This passage of Joshua, I believe speaks of the Great Pyramid..
Joshua 15
8And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
There are too many biblical fits that point to Giza as Jerusalem.
I would also say that ther has been little, if any, conclusive research into my claims. I would like to see them verified by professional, objective individuals.
Originally posted by Byrd
Not that much, truth to tell. They were more influenced by the Phonecians who were their neighbors than by the Egyptians who lived a thousand and more miles away. Culturally there's no evidence of strong contact, and certainly no evidence that they ever worshipped an Egyptian deity.
The "golden calf" was Sumerian, of course.
You'll have a hard time supporting that. The people who built the pyramids lived in buildings around them during the time they were building. These buildings are made for average-sized people (5'6" or so.)
They're talking about where the national border went. The Valley of Hinnom is near the town of Hinnom. The Israeli border has NEVER run across the Arabian peninsula (they would have had to taken all Arabia) and down and across the Nile, swallowing a big chunk of Giza and the major cities at the north end of the Nile near the delta.
We'd know about it if they had. There'd have been writings all over the place about it.
So, tell us... why don't you think that the MODERN day Jerusalem, with its ancient monuments (archaeological sites as old as 3,000 years can be found there) which has ALWAYS been called Jerusalem -- isn't the real Jerusalem.
All the old records refer to it as that. Everything about it says it had the same name throughout history.
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
There was more than one house/temple of God, that King Solomon built unto the Lord.
he Great Pryramid was refered to as the "Great And Wonderful House"
It Had 26 Lions (Sphinx) in front of it, and was far larger than 60 x 20 Cubits.
2 Sphinx by the sides of the Great Throne and 24 on the steps around the Throne. 12 Sphinx on the left side+12 Sphinx on the right side
And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem
The Materials used to build the Great and Wonderful House would not fit in a 60 x 20 cubit Space, Would not take 20 years to build and would not require a workforce of 153,000 workers.
1Ch 22:14 Now, behold, in my trouble I have prepared for the house of the LORD an hundred thousand talents of gold(10,000 TONS, and a thousand thousand talents of silver ( 50,000 TONS ) and of brass and iron without weight for it is in abundance: timber also and stone have I prepared; and thou mayest add thereto.
1Ch 29:4 Even three thousand talents of gold, (300 TONS )of the gold of Ophir, and seven thousand talents of refined silver (350 TONS ), to overlay the walls of the houses withal:
1Ch 29:7 And gave for the service of the house of God of gold five thousand talents (500 TONS )and ten thousand drams, and of silver ten thousand talents ( 500 TONS), and of brass eighteen thousand talents(900 TONS), and one hundred thousand talents of iron(5000 TONS).
Further, The Great and Wonderful House was "High"
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that "Great City", the Holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto "A Stone" most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And the City had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
Further proof of the Great and Wonderful House being "HIGH" is seen in this verse;
2Ch 9:4 And the meat of his table, and the sitting of his servants, and the attendance of his ministers, and their apparel; his cupbearers also, and their apparel; and his ascent by which he went up into the house of the LORD; there was no more spirit in her.
Clearly in that verse it shows that King Solomon "WENT UP" into the house of the lord, it was an "Awesome" sight to behold, the way he "Ascended Up" into the Great Pyramid.
A little common sense woud tell you that the people would stand in "AWE" of the Great Pyramid as apposed to a 60 x 20 temple, excluding the fact that you could not fit even the 100,000 tons of Iron in a 60 x 20 cubit space, it is a rediculous assumption that all the materials went into building a temple 60 x 20 cubits.
The Giza Plateau was a Earthly representation and foreshadow of the "New Jerusalem" that we see coming down from Heaven to the Earth in the Book Of Revelations
We also know that originaly the Great Pyramid was covered with "White" limestone casing stones with writings over them, just like the "White Stone" with writings God will give us..
Re 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a "White Stone", and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Another Point:
The Sphinx faces east, towards the rising of the Sun, the dawn of day. WHY ?
It is awaiting the"'DAWN OF A NEW DAY" in which the Giza Plateau will be transformed into a "GREATER GLORY" than that of the Days of King Solomon.
The Day that the "NEW JERUSALEM" will come down form Heaven and the "KINGDOM OF GOD" will be established on Earth "FOREVER"
Originally posted by CyrusTheShepherd
The moon worship eminating from the Golden Calf has been said to originate from Egypt, as well as Mesopotamia.
These buildings could have been for pyramid builders, or could have been for town residents. There are many theories circulating on who and how. I may have gotton off-topic bringing this up. It's not my intent to go into detail on this. I have my suspicions, though.
Again, my thesis is suggesting that many of the OT cities, which have been "refound" and labeled in the Palestine area, are not the originals.
So, tell us... why don't you think that the MODERN day Jerusalem, with its ancient monuments (archaeological sites as old as 3,000 years can be found there) which has ALWAYS been called Jerusalem -- isn't the real Jerusalem.
They once thought that they found Jericho, but later after another visit, had to confess that this particular city didn't match up timewise with the biblical account.
Originally posted by LadyV
Originally posted by knobby_roerr
Weren't the pyramids built well after the sphinx, like centuries after?
Yes...it has been discovered now that the Sphinx has water corrosion at it's base....so it was there when the desert was covered in water...a very, very long time ago!
Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
Let us for a moment put aside all that we have been told about the Great Pyramid and look at all the facts that can be proven and come to a logical conclusion....
...The current boundaries are a deception perpetrated by the Master Of All Deception Satan, who in an effort to hide from us the proof of God's Plan made in stone on the Giza Plateau