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Massive Times Square Billboard to Show Video of WTC 7 Destruction During 9/11 Anniversary

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posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: GenRadek



Exactly. Not one sound. so how can people claim demo charges and bombs and such crap, and yet, not one sound from any of the videos.


Are you totally ignorant or what?

Watch the video I posted above your reply. And if that isn't enough, try these:





That first clip was taken from a Romanian or Czech movie about 9/11. The sounds were added to the footage. The original footage has never surfaced to my knowledge.

The second clip has zero explosion sounds, so I'm not sure why that was posted, other than to debunk yourself.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: GenRadek

Forgot to mention, another website forum goes over this and pretty much points out the obvious fakery of the WTC7 Phonebooth "explosion". Im sure you can find it. Good luck! 48 hours.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

Maybe you're satisfied but I tend to rely on cold hard facts before being satisified and I am still waiting.


It's a fact that there are zero videos that have solid audio evidence that you claim exists.

To say that they indeed exist is an opinion, not based on strong evidence. Therefore, your self evaluation needs updating.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I am denying ignorance. I am offering you paths to get to the same place. Its up to you. Just because someone out there didnt make a great big website that debunks everything the "Truth" Movement has presented, does not mean it hasnt been dealt with.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: GenRadek
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I am denying ignorance. I am offering you paths to get to the same place. Its up to you. Just because someone out there didnt make a great big website that debunks everything the "Truth" Movement has presented, does not mean it hasnt been dealt with.


You're not though, you say so much yet provide no evidence to back up your claims.

And on the other side, those who suspect something isn't quite right with the official line have provided countless videos of witnesses, 9/11 footage and professionals who have raised valid and unanswered questions.



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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social media comments?

Since msm ain't telling me anything...



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Because I have said it countless time before. This is the problem with you "Truthers". Because I do not bend over backwards to repost everything I have said years ago, you do not wish to bother to look for yourself. Sad. Of course I say so much because I've been over all of this countless times years ago. Thats why I stopped posting for a while because I keep seeing the same old crap being regurgitated the same way and everytime I post the evidence that counters it all it always gets ignored, pushed aside, and belittled. So, I put it upon you to look up the evidence yourself. You claim to be looking for answers? ATS has a "Search" button. It's magical. It's wonderful. It slices and dices. And its free and easy. I did my part and I speak from what I have learned over the years. I did all the leg work. I put it up. Some listened, many didnt and ignored it. Which will you do? Go and look and learn? Or just ignore it like how many have done so before, because it does not jive with their preconceived paranoid conspiracy addled notions?

Let me tell you some sage advice on the "Truth" Movement and their eyewitnesses, videos, so called "Professionals". 99% of the eyewitness accounts they use have been cherry-picked, edited, altered, or misinterpeted, either willfully or accidentally. Most of it comes from initial reports from people that have NEVER been exposed to such an event and they are describing said events as best they can from their own personal experiences. Words like "sounded like", "looked like" "felt like" are similes. They are comparisons to actual things they can best describe. Like those that described tornadoes as sounding like "freight trains" or "explosions". People think that they hear a loud sound and automatically assume its a bomb. Thus, any loud report is identified as an explosion and through simple assumption make it to mean explosives/bombs. As to videos, "Truthers" have been caught NUMEROUS times editing videos in order to make their claims seem valid. I know of quite a few fake audio videos that are STILL being used as "proof" of explosives, and people are naive enough to believe the falsehoods. As to professionals, well, Richard Gage, Loose Change, AE911T are not reliable sources. They have made so many erroneous assumptions and claims and observations, that it hurts the brain to comprehend that people like them have been given the ability to be in charge of serious issues. I once wrote a whole thread that took apart the entire "AE9/11T" top ten signs of demolition. You can find it here too. As I said, I have done it all. It is up to you find it. Ive done my share.

Remember, 48 hours to find the faked WTC7 audio explanations. Good luck.

edit on 9/19/2014 by GenRadek because: deleted some parts



posted on Sep, 19 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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I know its hard to accept. Denial makes things easier. To just go back to way things were. Ignorance is sweet bliss. At first when I realized 9/11 was an inside job it was difficult to accept. But when I did it was like as if I swallowed battery acid. I felt so sick and depressed. My security and trust was broken. But I accepted it. I did not run away from it. That is the brutal reality of things. Its so obvious it was an inside job. So glaring and blinding. I say again from my last post, in recent times our current country and civilization is so blatantly corrupt and flawed. Its staggering. We need to acknowledge this problem and try to unite and fix this. a reply to: GenRadek



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: InfiniteRegression
Its so obvious it was an inside job. So glaring and blinding.


Funny how you claim it is so obviously a inside job - but you are unable to show any evidence of that at all!

You have been asked before to show evidence it was a inside job - but you were unable to!



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 12:19 AM
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Its so obvious Bruce. Numerous people have posted evidence countless times to you I'm sure. More people are waking up everyday and exposing more glaring evidence. Sooner or later you will realize the brutal reality and truth. The truth will no longer stay silent. a reply to: hellobruce



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 12:48 AM
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Seriously. Everything is totally astronomically corrupt. Think about an average street criminal selling drugs, stealing cars, robbing people, etc. And than think of people with real power......Political people. People with lots of money. People who own scarce resources like oil, coal, nuclear, etc. Not all those people are saints or good people. Its the law of the universe. People at the level will do astronomical and horrible things to keep that power and money to stay on top........a reply to: hellobruce



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 03:32 AM
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originally posted by: InfiniteRegression
Numerous people have posted evidence countless times


No they have not actually - Unless you consider the claims of mini nukes, or thermite, or holographic planes, or pod carrying planes firing missiles, or silent explosives, or beam weapons from space.... is "evidence"! All we have from truthers are silly made up stories.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 04:14 AM
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a reply to: lexyghot




That first clip was taken from a Romanian or Czech movie about 9/11. The sounds were added to the footage. The original footage has never surfaced to my knowledge.


If the audio was added, how do you explain the reaction of the firefighters and the cameraman then?



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: InfiniteRegression
Numerous people have posted evidence countless times


No they have not actually - Unless you consider the claims of mini nukes, or thermite, or holographic planes, or pod carrying planes firing missiles, or silent explosives, or beam weapons from space.... is "evidence"! All we have from truthers are silly made up stories.




what you consider to be silly bruce....you go on about your "facts" you have nothing to back them up with except ridiculing anyone who doesnt agree with what your version of the truth is...so many times i have seen your comments relating to
"you have facts"
' and everyone else has silly internet stories....so once again bruce where do you get your "facts" from ?

it is overwhelmingly obvious by now something in this does not add up...the story we have been spoon fed does not make sense,as do a lot of the fringe theories but at least there are people taking the time to think outside of the box



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 04:50 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
it is overwhelmingly obvious by now something in this does not add up...the story we have been spoon fed does not make sense

Exactly what about 9/11 does not add up?

Why do you make silly claims up like steel was melted at the WTC? That people died in WTC 7?

That is what does not add up about 9/11, why people make silly claims up!



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 05:01 AM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
it is overwhelmingly obvious by now something in this does not add up...the story we have been spoon fed does not make sense

Exactly what about 9/11 does not add up?

Why do you make silly claims up like steel was melted at the WTC? That people died in WTC 7?

That is what does not add up about 9/11, why people make silly claims up!




everything that does not add up has been gone over in these threads over and over...i would still like to know where you get your facts from and why there are so much more credible then anyone else ?



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: GenRadek
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Because I have said it countless time before. This is the problem with you "Truthers". Because I do not bend over backwards to repost everything I have said years ago, you do not wish to bother to look for yourself. Sad. Of course I say so much because I've been over all of this countless times years ago. Thats why I stopped posting for a while because I keep seeing the same old crap being regurgitated the same way and everytime I post the evidence that counters it all it always gets ignored, pushed aside, and belittled. So, I put it upon you to look up the evidence yourself. You claim to be looking for answers? ATS has a "Search" button. It's magical. It's wonderful. It slices and dices. And its free and easy. I did my part and I speak from what I have learned over the years. I did all the leg work. I put it up. Some listened, many didnt and ignored it. Which will you do? Go and look and learn? Or just ignore it like how many have done so before, because it does not jive with their preconceived paranoid conspiracy addled notions?

Let me tell you some sage advice on the "Truth" Movement and their eyewitnesses, videos, so called "Professionals". 99% of the eyewitness accounts they use have been cherry-picked, edited, altered, or misinterpeted, either willfully or accidentally. Most of it comes from initial reports from people that have NEVER been exposed to such an event and they are describing said events as best they can from their own personal experiences. Words like "sounded like", "looked like" "felt like" are similes. They are comparisons to actual things they can best describe. Like those that described tornadoes as sounding like "freight trains" or "explosions". People think that they hear a loud sound and automatically assume its a bomb. Thus, any loud report is identified as an explosion and through simple assumption make it to mean explosives/bombs. As to videos, "Truthers" have been caught NUMEROUS times editing videos in order to make their claims seem valid. I know of quite a few fake audio videos that are STILL being used as "proof" of explosives, and people are naive enough to believe the falsehoods. As to professionals, well, Richard Gage, Loose Change, AE911T are not reliable sources. They have made so many erroneous assumptions and claims and observations, that it hurts the brain to comprehend that people like them have been given the ability to be in charge of serious issues. I once wrote a whole thread that took apart the entire "AE9/11T" top ten signs of demolition. You can find it here too. As I said, I have done it all. It is up to you find it. Ive done my share.

Remember, 48 hours to find the faked WTC7 audio explanations. Good luck.


Haha, "you've done your share", you certainly have and you've convinced yourself, no-one else. And as pointed out with your crazy claim of added audio, how do you explain the firemens reactions to this added audio?

And may I remind you, I didn't say anything about the explosions before the airliners actually hit, the witnesses done that for me and what they said was pretty easy to understand, but of course someone as easily as convinced as you are, they must all be lying, right?

You can post hollow rubbish all day, but you can't debunk the unanswered questions that still remain mate.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Well the answers are found in the threads I told you to find.

That is the problem with diehard believers. You never want to go outside the conspiracy world. You re so convinced that its an inside job that any attempts to reason or change the religion of "True" believers, is akin to heresy. If the answer does not come to the same belief, then it is not worthy. The only answer "Truthers" want is that it was an inside job and that explosives were used. Thats it. Do not lie and claim you want the truth and want answers when you dont. The only answer you want is "Inside job and explosives"!

You have now roughly have just over 24 hours left. I have answered these questions, using basic facts, common sense and critical thinking. All of these things are found lacking in "Truther" world. Just over 24 hours left for you to find the answers I have given. But I believe you wll prove me right and not do anything I have suggested.. no you will sit there, poke fun and proclaim victory instead of actually looking for answers.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Flatcoat

That was a reaction to the firefighter coming up to them yelling at them to get moving cause the second tower is going to come down. Whoever added the sound effect used this moment to make it seem real.



posted on Sep, 20 2014 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: GenRadek
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Well the answers are found in the threads I told you to find.

That is the problem with diehard believers. You never want to go outside the conspiracy world. You re so convinced that its an inside job that any attempts to reason or change the religion of "True" believers, is akin to heresy. If the answer does not come to the same belief, then it is not worthy. The only answer "Truthers" want is that it was an inside job and that explosives were used. Thats it. Do not lie and claim you want the truth and want answers when you dont. The only answer you want is "Inside job and explosives"!

You have now roughly have just over 24 hours left. I have answered these questions, using basic facts, common sense and critical thinking. All of these things are found lacking in "Truther" world. Just over 24 hours left for you to find the answers I have given. But I believe you wll prove me right and not do anything I have suggested.. no you will sit there, poke fun and proclaim victory instead of actually looking for answers.


Hahaha, I provide links and videos to the things I have said (scroll back in the thread), yet because you've convinced yourself of your fantastic (and completely new to me) claims, why am I the one who has to go searching?

Your ego and self-satisfying beliefs are astounding







 
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